now steve gill from my director of the tech governmental affairs with us trade representative. thank you so much for your time. thank you. great. all right, sock ways from the oval office show down and have him re evaluated out around the world. particularly horrified, has been marked to the west and media who cried file over how of foreign war time visit the was treated. it was an entirely unprecedented moment in recent us presidential history of foreign war time visitor coming under repeated scolding from his american hosts. the state visit of ukrainian president vladimir zalinski to donald trump ends in a scandal. the world has never seen before. after a heated argument in the white house, the us president throws his counterpart out know raw materials, deal, know press conference. no food. never has an american president elected the leader of an ally in public like this, much less the leader of a country that is fighting off in vitus. i have covered the white house since 1996 . there has never been an oval office meeting in front of cameras like this and all that time. ukrai

and steve gills says off the years of joe biden, from is now setting the stage for a real chance of peace. or you cannot resolve conflict if you're not talking, having conversations about how to resolve the conflict. and i think that we haven't seen that over the last several years was divided administration, but under president trump reaching out and now beginning the conversation with president booth and the russians, i think there's a real pathway to find you not only piece, but also better prosperity, for all the nations involved, i do think it's kind of ironic that you have present zalinski complaining about being cut out of these. go see ations when he pushed the legislation in ukraine to make it illegal for him to negotiate with russia. so now, i guess he's complaining that he can't break the law by being involved in that goes, he ations. i think the other irony here is that the presence of lensky has been bad mouth in the united states. talking trash about the us when they're not doing exactly what he wants to do. not sending more money, more weapons to ukraine after he just bosto

now, for my director of the to governmental affairs to the us trade representative, steve gills, thank you for your insight. thank spelt, it was supposed to be a show of unity by the west, but in the wake of old aga, but instead of recrimination at the munich, you were to come from this unity would perhaps be the more appropriate i would. but as the gathering wrapped up delegates was still trying to put on a brief face. this has been coughing me of diplomacy, you know, the sort of people being quite to have top ben shock than the rest of it. but once we get over us, the prime minister of iceland said from the shock, what do we need to do? we need to listen what the americans are, say that for me on this, i'm going to this to do a, by all to contribute to rachel mazda. rachel is love to have you join me in the studio. now, it's surprising what's going on, but can you walk us through what really happened on what went down and what went down as exactly what they knew was absolutely not expecting these summits like the munich security conference, like the a i summit for europe that j, the