my name is steven overly. i host the daily politico tech podcast. i talk about ai and its vast implications. i don't think the consequences, or potential consequences are more significant when we talk about national security, whether that is competition with china, the war with ukraine. fundamentally, whoever dominates a will wield significant geopolitical power so that is the backdrop of our conversation. i do want to start with some news this morning which many of you may have seen, the biden administration signed an executive order effectively directing the department of defense and the department of energy to identify government sites where ai data centers can be built. senator occurs, as someone who is very focused on ai energy and infrastructure what's your reaction to this latest news? >> to put this in perspective, in utah, at my home state, two-thirds of that state is owned by the federal government so if you are not looking at federal land you are taking two-thirds of the mapped off the equation. think about trying to transmit energy. if y