fellow in geo politics, international security and middle east studies at the role united services institute of defense and security think tank and in the united states in virginia or indeed. and how it's tyler, non resident senior fellow at the foreign policy research institute. here's what laws. the focus is on regional kurdish affairs. a very warm welcome to you. it is a big deal and date the story and actually highly i'd like to start with you for decades of almond struggle for 2000 killed and now the prospect to pace before we. busy move into the nitty gritty of all this. could you just contextualize as far as just how much of a turning point in history could this be if the p k k and they do laid down their own? thank you for having me on the program. so i'm glad you said good because of course there are multiple possibilities and potentiality is here. but in the event that this does actually leads to a genuine piece and the, the laying down of ours by the p k. k. then i think the ramifications are quite significant, not simply for turkey, but also in syria, a somewhat in a rock as well. and i thi

of the deal. i want to bring in h.a. hellyer, who's a senior fellow in geopolitics and security at the royal united services institute for defense in london and the center for american progress in washington, dc. he joins us now from cairo. so i just want to get start to start off, your reaction to yet another release of not just israeli hostages, but also more palestinian prisoners as well. >> thank you, kim. >> for having. >> me on your show. so the the proposed ceasefire outline as the netanyahu's cabinet refers to, it includes a clause about prisoner exchange, um, and israel is supposed to release 1000 detainees from gaza, um, that were detained on the 8th of october, but explicitly not involved in the 7th of october attack on israel. um, uh, people should ask the question, why were they then detained for the past 15 months, especially if they had nothing to do with the 7th of october attack. but as part of the agreement, there's supposed to be those releases of those prisoners. um, there have been a number of prisoners that have been released, and even before that, there was a young palestinian, uh, mohamed sabah. he is now

of the deal brokered by the obama administration. he is a senior associate fellow at the royal united services institute for defense and security studies, and joins us now live from cairo. really good to see you. listen, there's so much that's going on, and i want to just start off with marco rubio in tel aviv, meeting with benjamin netanyahu. and importantly, this is, you know, soon after we hear about these riviera plans for gaza, you still don't have arab states that are pro this plan. they probably looking to come up with some alternative. what do you think is going to be discussed? how consequential are these meetings? >> well, eleni, thank you so much for having me on your program. >> i don't. >> think that rubio's visit. >> is really. >> going to change the calculus on any of these plans. i think the arab states, egypt, saudi in particular, are trying to put together a plan that looks actually doable. there's complete rejection of the quote unquote riviera plan, not simply from the arab states, but from, i think, most of the international community, including many of america's own allies in the west. the idea that you could simp

of the israel-hamas ceasefire agreement. i want to talk about this with h.a. hellyer. he's a senior associate fellow at the royal united services institute for defenseecurity studies. good to see you again. so here we are. this is the fifth hostage release. prisoner exchange. three weeks into the ceasefire. how do you assess the process so far? >> well. >> thank you very much for having me on the program. so i think that the the coming days are going. >> to be really quite delicate. we're coming towards the end of phase one, and the real test of this entire sort of outline of, of a cease fire is really phase two. and negotiations on phase two are due to begin very shortly. um, we haven't seen incredibly, uh, how should i say, enthusiastic signs from the israelis or indeed from the united states. um, and the latest statements from the white house and from the from the trump administration, um, have really not put the cease process into a great place. you know, talking about creating a riviera on gaza, clearing out gaza of its palestinian inhabitants, um, permanently, not even temporarily. um, all of that just emboldens the most egregious approaches t

united services institute for defense and security studies. and he joins me from cairo. uh, thank you so much for being here with us again. uh, we've spoken through a couple ofse hostage handovers. so far, despite all the problems. and certainly we have to highlight the the returning by hamas of the wrong remains. uh, all of those problems put put those aside. do these generally successful handovers, the fact that we are progressing through this, does it does it generate any momentum towards that crucial phase two? do you think? >> uh. >> well. >> thank you very much for having me on the program. >> um. >> so i think that there's a quandary here, which is the momentum for getting to phase two. uh, depends entirely on. >> uh. >> both sides wanting to go to phase two. um, when you have the hostages being released, um, that is a crucial component. as to why, uh, the calculus in israel continues to be, uh, continuing with the ceasefire, hostage negotiations. right. but once they're. >> gone. >> once all of the hostages have been released, then that impetus, frankly disappears. um, and the concern that i think many have, and quite rightly, is that as we get close

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