warren christopher, bill clinton's secretary of state.ren christopher put forward a plan to shut down usaid in 1995 and u.s. information agency and form them into a super stat department and al gore killed it during his reforming government plan, and my old boss, senator jesse helms revived it, and passed a law eliminating the first two and putting usaid under secretary of state and why marco rubio has the power to fold into the state. joe biden cosponsored that bill. it was the helms biden bill that gave marco rubio the authority that aid administrators answer to s secretary of state. this is warren christopher's idea executed by jesse helms and joe biden that marco rubio and donald trump are executing and the democrats are having ann an aneurysm. stuart: i didn't know that. thank you, marc. back to the market, dow down 100 and nasdaq eking out small and s&p up 7. ryan payne with us this morning. you're saying, hey, it's the consumer, not ai that's powering the economy. >> yeah, sometimes we forget because we talk about ai every week and

madeleine albright talked about this and bill clinton and warren christopher talked about this, evenoe biden talked about this. i think putting it under state makes a lot of sense to me to provide the direct supervision and oversight. >> but you know how this department works since you were the chair for so long of the committee overseeing it. when this trump-appointed judge put that federal -- the pause on the putting usaid workers on leave, he wrote in the opinion, no future lawsuit could undo the physical harm that might result if usaid employees are not informed of imminent security threats occurring in the countries to which they have relocated in the course of their service to the united states. he's saying that the messy way this rolled output people in physical risk when they are deployed by our government to countries overseas. did the secretary of state have any idea? >> the secretary of state issued the waivers for pepfar and for humanitarian both food and med sunshine but people living and working in places like syria aren't able to access computer systems and security wa

it was i am going to adequate specifically from him this was secretary of state at the time warren christopher tried to close that foreign aid agency during that administration, and merge into the state department exactly and shut down exactly the same thing that they want to do now, we're not saying going to shut down the agency, but you are going to get rid of the fluff the employees that aren't going to be needed not fluff apologies for federal workers, but you are going to eliminate jobs don't make sense then you are going to followed into department of state, that makes sense. >> i am a trump supporter i want usaidor subsidiary in department of state to actually be proactively trying to solve problems. cheryl: hiv -- >> understood. >> -- one of the things we can do but it has to be respected work in conjunction with state department, so that we are rewarding our friends, are punishing enz not, not wasting taxpayer more than on, insane proposes engrained in sending since clintonings. >> joe borelli great having you on show always good to see you we are getting started this hour because gue

out that putting usaid under secretary of state was actually an idea from secretary of state warren christophernot to say that all the foreign aid is going to disappear. it's that secretary rubio is going to scrub what is real and what is not. >> i think that's exactly right. i do think that's such an important framing. not so much that foreign aid is bad. foreign aid should serve to uplift countries that need and it restore peace in the world. it shouldn't be about exporting a social agenda. that's so much of what we have seen of the expenditures from usaid. one of the most troubling expenditures from usaid is things like fundamental support to hamas and what the inspector general from afghanistan raised about essentially american tax dollars help reconstitute the taliban in afghanistan. if an organization has accidently funded terrorism, it should be paused. and it should be reconfigured to get out the waste, corruption, and abuse that we have seen from a lot of these programs. >> bret: all right. >> so lawmakers are trying to come up with one big beautiful bill. but it is pretty messy. mered

. >> no, warren christopher was on to this and that was back when it was okay to look under the hoodfederal spending and often discussed by administrations on both sides. this horse is so far out of the barn. to watch how viciously democrats are trying to maintain -- imagine maxine waters this morning screaming outside of the department of education, which has spent $1 trillion since inception in its mission when it began less to squeeze the gap, the students on the lower end to catch up and be closer to the students on the higher end. does maxine waters care at all a complete can a complete failure. so this is an agency that does not deserve to continue to exist. betsy devos tried to fix it for four years and saying, "look i did everything i could and democracy is entrenched and must end for united states students." >> john: let's put the footage back up on the screen. that employee in the brown shirt with his glasses on his forehead, test is standing in front of the entrance to say the building is closed. they were hurling abuse at him and using him as a foil, a punching bag. he so

he said warren christopher, secretary of state under bill clinton was the first to say these guys arecontrol. let's fold them into the state department. al gore was going to do it but got massive pushback from usaid okay we will fold. senator joni ernst said what are you spending your money on. you look as though you are not going for american causes. you are going for anti-american causes. they threatened her. they told her to back off. as peggy noonan writes she says of all the agencies being battered around this one the first one we'll recall the period in history u.s. agencies for international development some of whose line items spending devoted to cultural imperialism. you have seen the list. usaiddei musical in ireland and everything we just saw. when you look at what they're pushing in the world you think they are not fighting anti-american feelings. they are causing anti-american feelings. >> lawrence: ainsley, i'm stunned that they have allowed the republicans now to be the party of the people. and when i say the people, the american people. if there was an argument to be m