to the question of, in watergate, the knicksen people had made clear that they wanted to ruin "washington post." they had -- knew that the broadcast licenses of the post stations which were the financial life blood of the "washington post" company were up for renewal before the f.c.c. and they wereout to make sure that those licenses were not renewed and right around the time of that john mitchell story, i got a call from a security guard downstairs at the post saying there's somebody from the committee for re-election on the president here, a subpoena server who wants your notes under subpoena. i said just a minute. i ran upstairs and i called ben bradley in his office and i said the guard has somebody with a subpoena for our notes down there and bradley said don't let them upstairs. i'm going to go talk to katherine and he ran upstairs to katherine graham's office and then he came back to my desk and he said they're not your notes. katherine says they're her notes and that if anybody is going to go to jail it's going to be katherine graham. it gives you a notion of what was at stake. bob: an

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joining us now is one of the reporters who broke this story, the washington post. jacob. bogus. mr. >> did i get any of that the wrong way around? did or did i did everything i say there comport with your reporting and what you understand as. >> totally checks out? >> great. okay, so as of tonight, do we know whether this young staffer from elon musk's team has access to that sensitive irs system, has even given entry into that system yet? >> we do know he has not gotten access to that. this memorandum of understanding between the white house and the irs has not been codified yet. there's some details to work out. the irs is freaking out, basically, about if and how and whether they should, and if they can give that access. and who would give it, and how is it overseen? and do they trust that that data can be secured? the white house kind of sees this as a fait accompli and for good reason, which is because if the irs says no, they could just start firing people. and that's exactly what we saw over at social security. it's a fait accompli to the white house that their representative

the "washington post" gave four pinocchios. the "washington post" they gave four pinocchio saying this is wrong. three every four dollar in the 2017 tax cut went to individuals cut asking taxes for lowest income by 10%. the top one percent got a half percent tax cut. there are other "washington post" said that the tax cuts going to the top one percent gave this false statement two pinocchios calling it a zombie claim. even the "washington post" discredited these claims. the american people are the best judge of this. they hear both sides. i'm not sure they believe necessarily any one party including our own, sadly enough. they believed in the effects and the results of the policies of president trump and unified republican leadership in contrast to the 40-year high inflation, the cost of living crisis, weaker economy. a nation closer to the debt crisis all because $8 trillion deficit spending and $5 trillion in additional cost in interest expense on the debt which tripled under president biden. i think the american people made

but the washington post reporting last night that they were planning on just doing this by fiat, by executive order, and now they're not. so we shall see. trump has always had it out for the post office. he went after it multiple times in his first term in office, you will recall. but you know what? the american people love? the post office serves all of us. if we want anything for the post office, we just want it to have more staff and better funding. we just want them to be better resourced because we love them and we depend on them, and they're integral to who we are as a country. the post office is, is, is it's i mean, it's in the constitution. just that alone, we tend to be jealously protective of things that are in black and white in the constitution as a foundational part of our constitutional republic. but even so, more than 70% of the public has a positive view of the us post office. and that number is the same among democrats and republicans. so yeah, of course trump wants to abolish it. but the public does not want it. and when they talk about abolishing it, they get pushed back an

this is the washington post, move gazans to another country, trump urges. politico, -- this is from the washington times, their headline. the middle of the page, trump floats u.s. takeover, division of gaza. the wall street journal, trump urges the u.s. takeover of gaza, president calls for palestinians to be removed and major breaking from policy. and the new york times, trump proposing takeover of gaza as u.s. territory, brazen plans to relocate all palestinians and rebuild war-torn enclave. these were made at a joint press session with the israeli prime minister. you can see that session at c-span.org. that is with a proposal for the gaza strip came up, and here it is from yesterday. [video clip] pres. trump: i also strongly believe that the gaza strip, which has been a symbol of death and destruction for decades and so bad for the people anywhere near it, especially those who live there, and, frankly, who has been really very unlucky, it has been a unlucky place for a long time, being in its presence has not been good, and it should not go through the pr

marty barron is a former executive editor of the "washington post." and earlier editor boston globe executive editor of the miami herald is also the author of the recent memoir coalition of power about the post in the trump years. i'm sorry that's okay. [laughter] [laughter] exits that were different on here. as a former i'm sorry former executive editor of the "new york times" and also former editor of the los angeles times leads the times local investigation fellowship. so were all among the 16 career honored earlier today. julie is a generation younger well i can confidently predict will be in the laureate group on the 100th anniversary. [laughter] >> no pressure. >> no no. [laughter] all in a date. [laughter] day. [laughter] looks great to remind us of our age. >> until the panel some time ago i went to start by asking each of you briefly to say what was the most important thing in journalism that you think has changed for the better since the beginning of your career? the thing that has changed for the worst that most concerns you. i'm going to d

we just had reporting tonight from the washington post. fferent order of magnitude, but they're talking about dissolving the leadership of the postal service and the absorbing the postal service into the administration somehow, meaning getting rid of the post office. all of these things, for different reasons, are third rails in american politics because they're foundational to what americans get from our government. what do you make of their willingness to grab so many things that have felled lesser politicians than these guys? >> well, for me, it is them finally saying or showing what they're all about. donald trump repeated over and over again, i'm not going to touch medicaid. i'm not going to touch medicare. i'm not going to touch social security. but now he is endorsing the legislation that will do just that. they are running to try to do everything they can to distract with misinformation and lies. and we've seen elon musk put up data after data after data. that is just just completely wrong, misleading or frankly, just misinformation

isaac arnsdorf, senior white house reporter for the washington. posta story that we have not heard the end of. thank you for helping us understand it tonight, and we look forward to talking to you about it again. >> thank you. >> all right. that does it for me on this very, very busy night. i will see you again monday and every night next week at 9 p.m. >> good morning. i'm alicia menendez in washington, d.c. it is 7 a.m. on the east coast, 2 p.m. in israel, where we are following breaking news. three hostages, including one american citizen, have been released in the fourth hostage exchange between israel and hamas. americ

the washington post took money from usaid. politico took usaid money. when you spread all of those newspapers out understand that is not news. that is regime propaganda. we all know it. now we have quantified the dollar value. have some introspection at c-span. i think your programs would be a lot better. thank you. host: your thoughts? guest: i think most of his comments are directed at the media and c-span but as much as this involves me i think he makes a good point about the republican party. there has been a split between the older bush from the wing of the party in this new trump wing. the way this is often presented in the establishment media as this is a hostile takeover of republican party or somehow the true republicans have been rejected. is a great threat to the party. i cannot help but notice trump has grown the party. we look at 2024, the first popular vote win. when you look at trump getting one in five black male voters, 46% of hispanics, something like 40% of women over 45. the most shocking number to meet was 40% of women under the age

host: washington post, republicans risk repeating biden's fiscal mistakes. no one wants to make the painful changes that require so let's review why they are necessary. since the pandemic, the debt to gdp ratio has leaked from 79.2 percent of gross domestic product to almost 100%. you read that right. the united states now owes its creditors nearly the total value of goods answer americans produced in a year. if we don't put our finance on a sustainable footing, debt service costs will squeeze out other policy priorities especially if the bond market begins to wonder whether all this debt will really get repaid. so how do you respond to that? is president trump at risk of making the same fiscal mistakes? guest: it is rich for the washington post to write that period i have been writing that the last five or six years because joe biden increase the debt by $7 trillion, the inflation reduction act, they build back better bill, just massive amounts of spending we didn't need. i think joe biden will go down in the street is our most financially irresponsible pre

joining us now is washington post senior white house reporter isaac arnsdorf.rs who broke this story. he's also the author of finish what we started, the maga movement's ground war to end democracy. mr. arnsdorf, thanks very much for being here. i know it's a really, really busy night. let me start by asking you what kind of information, what kind of system? this is this this payment system. >> well. >> what you said is exactly right. rachel, this is the checkbook. this is how the government's bills. >> get paid. >> and david liebreich, as the most senior official in in the treasury department, who was the acting treasury secretary until trump's nominee was. >> confirmed. >> is the expert at managing it, including. managing the debt ceiling, which, as we know, is coming up really, really soon with the with the spending limit in danger of being breached. that is all. you know, he's the expert on that. that's his expertise. all the payments to this, this is how the government pays its bills. and it's never been anything that has any political role. and leabrook i

what americans are saying about elon musk and the new "washington post" poll. 53% of americans disapproving of how president trump is handling the economy. the key issue in the election. and at the white house today, the heated exchange. the president asking if maine's governor was in the room. the exchange ended this way. >> enjoy your life after governor because i don't think you'll be in elected politics. >> why he singled her out. >>> the horror over the body returned by hamas. the family said this was not their loved one. tonight, hamas says it has now given them the right body, but all of this leading to new tensions, and will this cease-fire hold? >>> tonight, the pilot arrested in boston just before takeoff at logan airport. what he's accused of. >>> the explosion in maui at a popular resort. multiple injuries reported. >>> the pick change for the yankees. after five decades, what they will now allow. >>> the new honor tonight for a golden girl. it will have betty white fans celebrating. >> david: good evening. it's great stop you with us here. the major firing in los angeles after

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libby, i start with you on the facts of this vision of government, including that washington post reportingentioned. in fairness, you could have debates going back to the founding about the size of government. but the post reporting and frankly, some of what musk has said quite publicly suggests something different. >> yeah, this is really about control. >> and i think it's really important that you brought up the question of conflicts of interest, ari, because my colleague ian duncan had this powerful story about one of the organizations and one of the groups that doge was cutting is this small team within government that regulates autonomous cars. sound, sound like anything that elon musk has been talking about. i mean, he has a stake in the future of autonomous cars. he's also talking about shutting down the international space station. he has so much money in space and in government contracts. so this is personal. but it's also about control. and when you hear someone like senator king of maine, who caucuses with the democrats, say, when are we going to wake up? the question is, when wi

that's cnn, 45% in the washington post.rove of elon musk's role in the government. i mean, it's only been one pretty intense month, but what does this tell you? >> it says that america is waking up, and this is just the beginning. to your point, he's only been there one month. i shudder to think what will happen with those 100 days and what could happen in this budget process and reconciliation. but beyond that, i think that it shows that the american public is showing weariness to the main thing that donald trump ran on the economy. their price of eggs are still high as hell. they have not been able to reel in rent and housing costs. the cost of living is still pretty astronomical for people across this country. but in addition to that, and something we just previously touched on, it's also healthcare costs. many of the healthcare necessities that the biden administration worked to reduce. we're talking about the price of insulin when we're talking about the price of prescription drugs overall. a lot of that has been rever

but, you know, on that washington post one look at this, look deeper into that. they've got they've got a minus eight. look, the proportion of americans who are strongly for him is 27%. the proportion of americans who are strongly against him is 37%. so, yes, your perception, your anecdotal perception is correct. he does have a small, fervent base of support, but the base of fervent opposition to him is much larger, like ten points larger. the same poll also asked, do you want the next congress, the congress that's going to be elected next year in the midterms? do you want that congress to be controlled by the democrats to act as a check on trump, or do you want it to be controlled by the republicans to support trump's agenda by a 13 point margin? the country says democrats, please. we would prefer the democrats to be in charge in the next congress. in the washington post polling, do you support trump banning transgender people from the military? no. by 11 points. do you support trump laying off large numbers of federal workers? no. by 19 points, do you support t

i started working for the washington post early. i was a news aid and all kinds of small level things. i was a stringer from georgetown university, which i got the job because they wrote a story i wrote for the college newspaper. and i called them and told them they sucked. they told me come down here and say that our face, and i did. they hired me. it is come apparently. >> larry, how did you get into the world of comedy? larry: i also wanted to be a gay spy. i actually wanted to be an astronaut. kara: i wonder what i was if i was a cia agent right now. larry: you could. kara: what if i was? larry: that is the doublespeak of a spy. man, so good. i was always funny. i come from a funny family. my parents are not consciously funny. they were just funny. like they don't know that they are funny. my brother and i to always make fun of them. i did not think it was a possibility to be in showbiz until i realized it was the only thing i really wanted to do. at first i was a theater major in college. started as a standup comic. and i was k

this from the washington post. parallel government services from cities to farm towns at the national institutes of health, an unknown number of key staff are being let go, posing a potential threat to patient safety, said a person familiar with the matter. nih probationary employees include doctors, nurses, pharmacists and respiratory and respiratory therapists. people who have spent years earning multiple degrees and qualifications. even on friday, the national institutes of health terminated some researchers. is this waste and fraud? and i mean, just what are you hearing from the people that you represent who are being targeted because of die? i just i do not understand this. >> well, i'll tell you. i talked to many researchers. >> that our union. represents on friday. >> that were going through panic attacks. >> all week. >> that were just recovering from panic attacks after i had talked to them. and it was just an incredibly dark week at work. right. >> and it's not just the losing. >> of the jobs, because obv

the washington post reports that trump is getting ready to dissolve the leadership of the u.s. postal service and absorb the currently independent agency into his administration. the agency would be controlled by the commerce department and its secretary, howard lutnick. nbc news has not yet confirmed that reporting. earlier today, the senate confirmed trump loyalists and hard line fbi critic kash patel as the bureau's director. republicans lisa murkowski and susan collins joined democrats in voting no. but mitch mcconnell, who just announced he will retire at the end of his term next year, well, he voted yes. and trump's mass firings across the federal government are still piling up even higher. both the irs and the tsa let go hundreds of employees earlier today. tonight, two sources at housing and urban development tell nbc news that they are also expecting. for them, it is up to half of the department's 9000 employees to be cut next. and this afternoon, a federal judge said he could not block the administration's mass firings. he told the employees unions to take their case

the washington. >> post reports. >> that trump. >> is. getting ready to dissolve the leadership of. >> the u.s. postal. >> service and absorb the. >> currently independent. >> agency into. >> his administration. the agency would. >> be controlled by the commerce. >> department and. >> its secretary. howard lutnick. >> nbc news has not yet confirmed that reporting. >> earlier today. >> the senate confirmed trump loyalists and hard. >> line fbi critic. >> kash patel as the bureau's director. republicans lisa. >> murkowski and susan. >> collins joined. democrats in voting no. but mitch mcconnell, who just announced he will retire. >> at the end of. >> his term. >> next year. >> well. >> he voted yes. >> and trump's. >> mass firings. >> across the. >> federal government. >> are. still piling. >> up even higher. >> both the irs. >> and. >> the tsa. let go hundreds. >> of employees earlier today. tonight. >> two sources at housing and urban. >> development tell nbc news. >> that they are. >> also expecting for them. it is. >> up to half of the

libby, i start with you on the facts of this vision of government, including that washington post reportingentioned. in fairness, you could have debates going back to the founding about the size of government. but the post reporting and frankly, some of what musk has said quite publicly suggests something different. >> this is. >> really about control. and i think it's really important that you brought up the question of conflicts of interest, ari, because my colleague ian duncan had this powerful story about one of the organizations and one of the groups that doge was cutting is this small team within government that regulates autonomous cars. sound, sound like anything that elon musk has been talking about. i mean, he has a stake in the future of autonomous cars. he's also talking about shutting down the international space station. he has so much money in space and in government contracts. so this is personal. but it's also about control. and when you hear someone like senator king of maine, who caucuses with the democrats, say, when are we going to wake up? the question is, when will co

so title is from washington post, article from 1981. it just my dad had just served in the carter administration and was easily confirmed into the reagan administration. and in this washington post article, they they say that nixon, reagan kennedy had all said, get me, who is this guy? get me carlucci. everybody is asking for him. and that's basically this book is about it's about identifying the traits that make my dad so, so wanted. so desired. and in this town, a consummate professional skilled public servant that everybody wanted in their corner. republicans democrats, even though he was a republican. but that he was he got things done. so i thought it was a very appropriate title. absolutely. and that image, the beginning of the story of president kennedy who's carlucci, get me carlucci. where and your father sitting? i in foggy bottom, having lunch with carl. and next thing you know, he's kind of brought in and into the white house, meet someone who was a statesman from, well, from congo. yeah. back. he was a foreign service offic

i want to turn now to another big story that broke today in the washington post. and it actually relates to what senator welch was just saying there. we're still in the early hours of understanding what this means, but i think this may end up being a very big deal. today, the post broke news that the highest ranking career official at treasury man named david. david liebreich, is leaving the us government. quote, after a clash with allies of billionaire elon musk over access to sensitive payment systems. so elon musk and his team of people have reportedly been asking treasury for access to the payment systems that the government uses to pay its bills to pay out trillions of dollars a year across the federal government. also payments to businesses and individual households. so if you're a federal worker before your paycheck hits your bank account, it goes through this system. same thing if you get a social security check or a medicare benefit payments to government contractors, tax refunds, grant recipients, you get the idea. this is basically the government's chec

>> yes, so the title is from that washington post article from 1981.y dad had just served in the carter administration and was easily confirmed into the reagan administration. and in this washington post article, they say that nixon, reagan, kennedy had all said, who is this guy? get me carlucci. everybody is asking for him. and that is basically what this book is about. it is about identifying the traits that make my dad so wanted, so desired in this town. a consummate professional, skilled public servant, that everybody wanted him in their corner. republicans, democrats, even though he was a republican, but that he was -- he got things done. so i thought it was a very appropriate title. >> absolutely and the image at the beginning, the story of president kennedy -- get me him. and your father is sitting i think in foggy bottom, having lunch with colleagues and next thing you know, he is kind of brought in to the white house to meet someone who is a statesman from the congo, yes. >> he had just come back. he was a foreign service officer and had serve

the washington post reporting, trying at least to get us an idea as to what ai power usage is like. reporting a single ai generated email uses as much electricity as 14 light bulbs do in an hour. i asked data expert rodrigo aramburu to join us this morning. he is the co-founder of voltron data. rodrigo. good morning. can i start with the basics on this? why does ai need so much electricity? yeah, no, of course. and thank you for having me, scott. it's really basically what are computers doing and how are they processing data and how are they doing the things that they do for us. and really it's just electricity, right? we have electrons flowing through a computer and that requires electricity to run. that ends up writing your email for you, that ends up writing new docs or anything that you're asking chatgpt to do for you, help you plan a vacation, and so on and so forth. so it's that and i would imagine cooling as well, but mostlit's just these electrons going through chips. and we just have so many of them that this is what's somebody needs a city's worth of electricity to do. it'

i started working for the washington post early. i was a news aid and all kinds of small level things. i was a stringer from georgetown university, which i got the job because they wrote a story i wrote for the college newspaper. and i called them and told them they sucked. they told me come down here and say that our face, and i did. they hired me. it is come apparently. >> larry, how did you get into the world of comedy? larry: i also wanted to be a gay spy. i actually wanted to be an astronaut. kara: i wonder what i was if i was a cia agent right now. larry: you could. kara: what if i was? larry: that is the doublespeak of a spy. man, so good. i was always funny. i come from a funny family. my parents are not consciously funny. they were just funny. like they don't know that they are funny. my brother and i to always make fun of them. i did not think it was a possibility to be in showbiz until i realized it was the only thing i really wanted to do. at first i was a theater major in college. started as a standup comic. and i was k

he covers technology for the washington post, and he's been reporting on elon musk for years. will, thanks for coming in. how is elon musk in what you've been tracking? how is he using x to promote and push forward with his government cutting plans? how is he utilizing it as a tool? >> yeah, it's really. >> been key to. >> his strategy. >> so, you know, if you're going to go in and try to take a scalpel to government programs and cut out the waste and the fat in a really careful way, that would take a lot of time. it would take probably a lot of listening. that's not the approach that musk and doge have taken. they're taking a sledgehammer to certain agencies that they target, and in order to justify that, musk is rallying supporters and putting out talking points on his social media platform x, where he is, of course, the loudest voice with the largest following. and, uh, he what he does is when doge, uh, takes on a new agency, musk will put out, uh, tweets that suggest the agency is fraudulent, that it's criminal, that the people in it are evil, that it's part of a liberal c

this is "the washington post." so they are tracking all the different court cases and where they stand. and then they have a break down of the details on each one if you're interested in that you can look at that. that's at the "washington post." >> welcome back, we are joined by representative mike flood. he's a republican of nebraska and member of the financial services committee. congressman, welcome to the program. guest: thank you very much. good host: you serve on the financial services committee and it has oversight of the treasury department. you recently met with treasury secretary bessent about elon musk's role in the federal payment system. can you tell us what you discussed with him? guest: basically two things. i asked the treasury secretary, what kind of access does elon musk have to the federal payment system? because it is a question i'm getting quite often from people that live in the first district of nebraska. he assured me that mr. musk has read-onl assets and only two employees at the treasury

washington post lidcombe big thank you to sally quinn and david ignatius and. in a couple of minutes, president carter will be in this next room signing his books. thank you very, very much. in fact. it's a. good. one.

jacob bugaj, congressional economics reporter for the washington post. ashley parker, staff writer at the atlantic and an msnbc political analyst. and danny cevallos, criminal defense attorney and an msnbc legal analyst. so i'm going to begin with you, aaron. talk to me about the access here and why doge would want to get into this very sensitive system. >> so this is an irs employee that we're talking about here who's been sort of attached to the doge team that's going through all the different agencies all around the federal government. and in this particular case, our understanding is that he or she is going to try to access this integrated data retrieval system, as you noted, a highly sensitive system that contains a lot of taxpayer personal information. and there are concerns about who this person is and what sorts of things that person might be able to do if they were to access that particular information, without the sort of oversight that we would typically expect and are hired in so many cases of regular government employees who work inside the

knew was sexually abusing children in previously unreported claims. 6 former residents told the washington post. there were multiple incidents of rape and other abuses of children by volunteers, caregivers, and even other children. the us agency for international development own previous investigation following a whistle blowers complaint, found abuse claims at the orphanage. credible. according to court documents submitted by the orphanages kenyon board in its efforts to oust its director, usa did not directly support the orphanage, but funded to other associated programs, abusing children, hating on the chinese destabilizing governments. usa i. these brands might have been intended to give people the impression that us dollars would be put to use in aging people. but based on the organization's track record, it's only work to help itself. that is the state department, the why still with our team to national for all the latest i'm around the world. i see you again, my number the . this is how they shut down the lowest russian office of the simple mills in group . a large scale network of coal

reporter the washington post who focuses on the intersection of politics, policy and people. he previously wrote stories about life in the district for the post social issues team and samuels joined the post in 2011 after spending nearly five years working at the miami herald. he is the coauthor of his name is george floyd. so please join me in welcoming our two prize winning authors today. okay. so how we're going to run this panel today? i'm going to facilitate about 35, 40, 45 minutes. i don't know. i can't control myself with all my questions. right. of of conversation up here with, the panelists. but then we're going to open the floor and hear from you all. so start to get your questions ready. all right and write them down so you don't forget them. now you to have written extra ordinary books about to extraordinary men who. impacted the life of the world, if not just the country. i want to talk to you first about how you chose to to write these stories, jonathan you written a book about one of the world's most recognized historical figures as a freedom fighter, a leader

valentines you get in the mail, but also for the future of this independent service that the washington post notes, ranks as one of the most popular in the country. let's get right to cnn's alayna treene at the white house for these new post office plans. elena, what are you learning? >> well, it's also not just one of the most popular agencies, john. it's also one that's been around for more than 250 years. so keep that in mind. but look, you're exactly right. there have been multiple reports, and we've been hearing as well that the president may move to sign an executive order that would seize control, essentially, of the united states postal service, fire its leaders and place it under the control of the commerce department. now, i will say this is something that the white house has denied, but it's also something that we know donald trump has been fixated for several years on. i mean, going back to his first term. the president tried at one point and talked about wanting to privatize the united states postal service. he also talked about it as recently as december, when he was doing a ne