i would also suggest that the packaging equipment be installed out at beaven rather than at tunnel. a few reasons for that and it's not you know the company has good reasons for why they want to put it at tunnel. one of the concerns that i have is that you need different types of trailers to convey the slurry material he water type trailers to convey the slurry material as opposed to the transfer trailers that they already have to convey the the co-mingled material that's dry air. and so i'm concerned that you would get into this and then incur additional expenses needing to buy specialized equipment to be able to transfer it. it's also the case that beaven is a site that handles more users than just san francisco and so potentially other users of that site would benefit from using that equipment and it could be amortized over a broader set of tons than just san francisco. so those are my primary rationale for suggesting we consider a different location there and then certainly consider recology proposal for tiered pricing. but we need to understand it better. it is very common in m

i want to better understand how when they remove the organics portion how well can beaven process thatcan recology mark at the end product? so those are some outstanding questions and we're looking at potentially working with a consultant to help us evaluate that in terms of active markets from the compost derived from msw processing that's trash processing and there are very robust markets. >> this is a picture of an actual farm in the central valley utilizing 4900 tons of compost derived from trash processing currently. and then this is not new technology i know jeff and just kind of brought to your attention to facilities that didn't work out. >> there is 20 different cities in california that are currently using trash processing this is not new. >> can it continually improve? yes. are there always new technologies available? this is a very evolving market with optical sorting and i so it's not a stagnant program. this will continually evolve and i think it's it's in the process of improving and we want to continue to to lead the way in san francisco. and i just want to leave you wi