you heard what your colleague, beth van duyne, had to say there. let's start in our conversation here because so many democrats are criticizing what happened between president zelenskyy and president trump and vice president vance yesterday. i want to just go right to your reaction to what happened and what it all means. >> well, first, it was, in my opinion, just a very shameful display for all that to happen in the oval office many front of the world and all of our allies who we need to stop russia. and i think what, honestly, is most disgraceful is that throughout that conversation that the president could not be clear that putin is a danger to europe, to ukraine and to the united states. putin is an authoritarian dictator, and we need to call it like it is and to embarrass zelenskyy who is taking putin on right now, to belittle him, an ally -- griff: but, congressman, met me -- >> i think it's a big mistake. griff: if we're being fair here, you're saying it was shameful in that zelenskyy was the one who was attacked. but let's be honest, we all