chuck todd, an ex- friend of yours said i thought he really actually cared about being a journalist first-- wanted to walk that line. >> that is interesting. i do not know. i do not know what promoted him to do that. i had an interview with the prime minister today. i don't know what he's doing. [laughter] i think, my focus is, you know, what i said it covering the news . if i had off the record conversations and moments with president trump, i think that any journalist would want to get in his mind of what is next. things are going a million miles an hour. i do not think that that is true as i said, we have covered a lot of things that we were first on. you know, the cognitive questions about president biden. we were told that we were running sheet take videos and it was all attacked. and now there is an effort. >> did you not apologize for that? [laughter] >> no. covid, you go to the lab and you go to all of these things that we were a conspiracy theory. and one year later, it turns out to be we were leading the way. over time the audience has come to trust when we have big events break