or is it better to re find your alliances with europe even though of u. k. left europe? yeah, it's very complicated for brittany, no breaks it. you know, now somebody looks very, we're not setting the i think to some of us on a long look strategically, like a big plunder, not just economically, but strategically look, i mean style, i'm a come to washington and emmanuel mac call. the french president came out here in the week. they bring it what i liked, cool. bringing fruits to the volcano. trump has the sort of foy explain truths to the volcano to are, you know, this is, this are sacrifices to the great of stormy god. right? yes. the love of god so that you try and a piece that you're trying to flats, right? you offered obeisance in the hope that you will stave off at that and, and any of our options that you know of, okay. and those tend to do. and so they've been bringing fruits to the volcano in the hope that they can moderate trump typically on ukraine. um and if that fails, which i think it will, um then uh it makes it easier to sell to the public back homes dom or

n g to western europe. and roughly 6 times the price that europe was paying for. russia's low cost a pipeline, a gas. so there were some commercial interest, but there was a long standing opposition in the united states to north stream. partly because there was a long standing view that russia and germany should not get too close to each other . and in a, in an american flag world. but more fundamentally, in the american led world, the main target was not europe, the main target was russia. and i, and this was stated repeatedly that the us goal was to surround russia with nato. the us goal was to make sure that russia was the 2nd rate or 3rd rate power it all invidious. we had a remarkable rand corporation paper in 2019, which had find one of the most disgusting works. a coming out of a, i would of a us official them. and that said, you know, basically how do we extend rush, how do we annoy russia? how do we undermine russia? that's a, a national goal. how about, how do we cooperate with russian? how do we

if europe would open its eyes, it's hard with europe is 27 independent countries. they can't think clearly as a major power in a unified way. but if they could, they would have just a direct counterpart relationship with russia. and ukraine would be so much safer as the neutral state that it was that would have protected ukraine. because neutrality is not a danger. neutrality is a protection asked. we fell into austria during the decades that it had neutrality. not the nato period of the last year. this is ridiculous, they were safe with neutrality. oscar is safe with neutrality, but they chose the block approach that's on the safe. nothing just didn't come in right? that jeffrey told to me, if you will, we've had these that we've had these negotiations up central piece told happening and assemble now 6 and a half hours of talks jeffrey before that of course re add well what, what was interesting to me was, you know, um who shackle viewed, it will shut off, who was the presidential envoy of those who know he's an old friend of mine and my food ends and he was down

europe is important because we defend europe for today. all europeans recognize that we are defending the line and they have real life and our people are dying. that is why they helped us. it is also like the president said. you have a big, nice ocean. between us. but if we will not stay, russia will go further to the baltics into poland, but first of the baltics. it is understandable because they have been in the ussr. they have been one of the republics of the ussr and food and wants to bring them back to his empire -- and putin wants to bring them back to his empire. it's a fact. , not recognizable. there's not a building standing. pres. zelenskyy: you have to come look. we have good cities. a lot of things have been destroyed but people work in children go to school. sometimes very difficult, sometimes closer to the front line, children have to go to underground schools, but this is important. and maybe it is putin sharing this information that he destroyed us. he lost 700,000 soldiers. >> mr. president -- when did you last speak with

of western europe? well, i don't, so i wouldn't, i wouldn't bet on that of europe may eventually sanction russia that completely cut off those. the member states of european union that are still getting the guests from russia. that would be a risky move in terms of the integrity and unit, sorry to interrupt the advise that off the black market. that because it needs the energy con, supply of old united states can supply all of it. they have to they to a desperate for original energy. right? they fine as the russian war, in fact, london violent in paris. will let them say what they want to say, but the russia does need the fluid exchange. and uh, it has to be a non here, the very openly in russia raptor cutting off a gas supplies to, or uh, the material supplies to the, to the rest of the world that end up in, in western countries would not be uh, you know, a small move by russia. so yes, so there is, um, a certain degree of uh, how shall i put an inconsistency in this whole thing, but that we're dealing

really, we can help europe because europe really helps. president trump said that they made less support. but they're our friends. and they are our very supportive partner. they gave a lot, mr. president. pres. trump: really? but they gave much less. >> no. pres. trump: no? [laughter] >> no. reporter: mr. president, you-- your dealing with ukraine has been historical. it affects america and the world. what place in the world history do you want to take? and do you associate yourself with anything historical? pres. trump: i would say george washington, abraham lincoln. i would say i'm far superior to george washington and abraham lincoln. you know i'm only kidding, right? because when i say that the fake news is going to be wild. he considers himself to be greater than george washington. i don't compare myself to anybody. we're here to do a job. we've had a great 35 days, whatever it might be, a little more than a month. we accomplished tremendous amounts, not only this. this would be a very great achievement if we can get the war stopped a

and is supplying energy still to west and europe have. when is rest, you're going to sanction the countries of western europe as well? i don't say i would, i would need to bet on that. uh you're up to may eventually sanction russia and that completely cut off those that never stay. so here it is near the end that are still getting gas from russia. that would be a risky move in terms of the integrity and unit. sorry to interrupt the advice at off the black market then because it needs the energy con, supply of old united states on supply all of it. they have to they to a desperate for original energy. right. they find that the russian war, in fact, london, violated in paris. well, let them say what they want to say, but the russia does need the fluid exchange. and uh, it has to be a non here, the very openly in rushes after cutting off a gas supplies to, or, uh, the material supplies to the, to the rest of the world that end up in, in western countries would not be uh, you know, a small move by russia. so yes, so there is, um, a certain de

if europe would open its eyes, it's hard with europe is 27 independent conferees. they can't think clearly as a major power in a unified way. but if they could, they would have just a direct counterpart relationship with russia. and ukraine would be so much safer as the neutral state that it was that would have protected ukraine. because neutrality is not a danger. neutrality is a protection asked sweden, finland austria during the decades that it had neutrality, not the nato period of the last year. this is ridiculous, they were safe with him. trial of the austria's safe with neutrality. but they chose the block approach that's on the safe. well of the world wash in or is ukraine's relations of america, just unraveled on live tv. they cheated back and forth reached new levels. so let's be started lecturing. trump how american needs to be concerned for its own safety. it really was seemingly out of failed to record in broad daylight. so what is the basically looking for, and wherever is it going to be a year from now? i will look at our website to go to china. now,

if europe would open it's eyes, it's hard with europe is 27 independent countries. they can't think clearly as a major power in a unified way, but if they could, they would have just a direct counterpart relationship with russia. and ukraine would be so much safer as the neutral state that it was that would have protected ukraine. because neutrality is not a danger. neutrality is a protection asks, we mean finland, austria, during the decades that it had neutrality, not the nato period of the last year. this is ridiculous, they were safe with neutrality. austria is safe with neutrality. but they chose the block approach that's on the safe. yeah, jeffrey sachs and just gave a blistering speech. but you, you parliament basically telling all the bureaucrats stopped wondering and ukraine, you've lost, and it's over because the more about the commentary from jefferson, it's online. it's not the, [000:00:00;00] the, i'm actually and resenting welcome to going undergrad, real costing around the world from the u. a of to friday's scheduled visit to the white house by zelins

also ahead of drilling a hole in southern europe with both area and greeks locked in a dispute over the water. it offers a glimpse, environmental crises and thousands of traffic and victims of savings from online scan centers and southeast asia. and i'm time how much was for the as loaded punches breaks the pool volt worldwide quote. again, the 11th time, he's done at the olympic champion, has not raised a mazda 6.27 meters. the clash at the white house, you cranes, president a lot of minutes and then steve has been rated by us president donald trump and vice president j. d. vance. on live television still landscape says his relationship with donald trump can be salvaged off with his extraordinary war was and the owner of the law says, he says he need security guarantees before entering any place tolts with russia. island fisher reports from the white house. but you will feel that historic was of the oval office of god did many secrets. this was all played out in front of the cameras. don't tell us what we're going to feel a staggering exchange between the us president his number 2 and

uh, and europe really? i know europe has been talking about having to basically support ukraine on its own. uh, not really believing that the united states would walk in the opposite direction. but what happened today confirms their worst suspicion. they are the ones that are going to have to step up and help zelenskyy be able to save his country. >> david, gop lawmakers who support ukraine have been telling me for weeks that trump will not abandon ukraine because he doesn't want to be seen as weak, that he doesn't want to have his afghanistan right. and we saw biden's support drop significantly following the disastrous withdrawal from there. is that, in your view, at all a reliable backstop here that trump will see? well, i don't want to be perceived as the loser here and eventually back up ukraine. >> look, i think the darker interpretation of what we saw today is that they were setting up a pretext, he and the vice president for walking away from ukraine and blaming zelenskyy for it. uh, so there's nothi

if europe would open its eyes, it's hard with europe is 27 independent countries. they can't think clearly as a major power in a unified way. but if they could, they would have just.

if europe would open its eyes, it's hard with europe is 27 independent countries. they can't think clearly as a major power in a unified way. but if they could, they would have just a direct counterpart relationship with russia. and ukraine would be so much safer as the neutral state that it was that would have protected ukraine. because neutrality is not a danger. neutrality is a protection asked sweden, finland austria during the decades that it had neutrality, not the nato period of the last year. this is ridiculous, they were safe with him trial of the austria's safe with neutrality. but they chose the block approach that's on the safe on line. you can read how it seems at times of change from says the landscape needs to well make ending the beloved shed. his top priority, otherwise he's not welcome in washington, a trump reinstated more than one c repeatedly set. the goal is face at all costs. so you can read about that, right? there were dots. we dot com for now. the program around to or presidential elections and up costs you said to take place this saturday

you can use it for -- and really we can help europe because europe really helps. president trump said that they made less support but they are our friends and they are our very supportive partner. they really gave a lot, mr. president. president trump: but they gave much less. president zelensky: no. no. >> mr. president -- >> mr. president -- >> president trump, you have called the deal with ukraine and as a president of the united states you make decision in other issues which affects america and the world. what place in the world history do you want to take and do you have something to say for yourself with negative historical? president trump: i say george washington, abraham lincoln. i would say i'm far superyour to george washington and abraham lincoln. you know i'm only kidding. the fake news is going to say he considers himself to be better than washington. i don't compare myself to anybody. i'm here to do a job. we've had a great 35 days or whatever it might be, a little more than a month. we've established tremendous amounts -- not only this, this would

's is in europe, donald trump was able to do something that biden and harris were not able to do.t is bring vladimir putin to the table. he has stated publicly he wants peace and this war to be over. as to president zelenskyy. so today was a golden opportunity for ukraine, all of europe and vladimir putin and russia to stop all of the death and destruction. and that opportunity passed over today. by the way, the u.s. has now demonstrated over and over again under donald trump that we can and we will defend ourselves, regardless of what happens in ukraine. and for the record, the oceans are not our only protectors. we have the most powerful military the world has ever seen, we on the sky, we on the seas, we own outer space. and president trump is dedicated to producing the next generation of weaponry, including, as he often speaks about, and iron dome that will one day perhaps save millions of lives and our logistics are unmatched. we don't need ukraine, they rely on us and they have been as successful as they have been because of the hundreds of billions of dollars of your money t

if europe would open it's eyes, it's hard with europe is 27 independent countries. they can't think clearly as a major power in a unified way, but if they could, they would have just a direct counterpart relationship with russia. and ukraine would be so much safer as the neutral state that it was that would have protected ukraine. because neutrality is not a danger. neutrality is a protection asked sweden, finland austria during the decades that it had neutrality, not the nato period of the last year. this is ridiculous, they were safe with neutrality, austria's safe with neutrality, but they chose the block approach that's on the safe. well, i wrote some of this and use our as always, it's great to have your company with us here on our international. we'll be back again here in about 30 minutes. the latest updates to the us that the, the chess willis. i am the. nobody's telling me that a humorous item does this, but i'm gonna forward it to bill about authority. are still there about some of the, from the umbrella dealership within the number of what it says. this w

they are communicating to europe that the u.s. will no longer defend europe. and if that sounds to some like hyperbole, european leaders are saying this quite publicly. the soon to be chancellor of germany. friedrich merz has said the u.s. cannot rely on europe, cannot rely on the u.s. to enforce article five, for instance, of nato, as others have echoed. is that how europe should read this president that they're on their own as well? >> well, i don't see how european leaders can can read anything other into what happened today, but that the united states is in many ways walking away from europe. and europe is on its own. uh, look, the message that went out from this meeting, uh, to the world is that, uh, united states credibility, uh, in dealing with our allies, uh, has taken a real hit, uh, and europe really? i know europe has been talking about having to basically support ukraine on its own. uh, not really believing that the united states would walk in the opposite direction. but what happened today confirms their worst suspicion. they are the ones that are

if europe would open its eyes, it's hard with europe is 27 independent conferees. they can't think clearly as a major power in a unified way, but if they could, they would have just a direct counterpart relationship with russia. and ukraine would be so much safer as the neutral state that it was that would have protected ukraine. because neutrality is not a danger. neutrality is a protection asks, we mean finland, austria, during the decades that it had neutrality, not the nato period of the last year. this is ridiculous, they were safe with neutrality. austria is safe with neutrality, but they chose the block approach that's on the safe. certainly seems to tell them . so i've changed trump saying zelinski needs to make ending the beloved shed his top priority. otherwise, he's not welcome with washington. trump reiterating more than once the goal is, the goal is piece that uphold costs. read about that on life. you know the website, the final here on the program around to of presidential elections. and i've kazi or so to take place, this stuff that i a to kind of,

so i think europe is losing its grip. it's going a little bit more slowly, but it's, i think something that's inevitable. what uh we have about 15 seconds more. i do think the electoral process in europe will continue the trend that we've seen from france buquet in germany. go ahead, daniel. i think yes, but slowly and i think judy debt, judy vince has done a great service to freedom and liberty when he lectured to europeans with something i normally don't like. telling them we are not sharing values anymore. look at what you're doing. you're suppressing the desires of your people, the expression of your people. i think that will go down in history is one of america's finest moments. well, we'll hope so. and i hope that somehow will end this conflict in ukraine because even on this program, we don't see the roadmap just yet. here. it's all the time we have gentlemen, i want to thank my guests in cornwall room and, and like jackson. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time.

it will be europe that is left to step up to most of the mess. essentially. trump and vance have put on a disgraceful show. i am ashamed of that behavior. the us deserves something better . the free world must support ukraine. i was and still am with zelinski. nobody wants peace more than the ukrainians do. therefore, we are working on a common path to a lasting and just peace. ukraine can rely on germany and on europe. there's a lensky, dear ukrainian friends, you are not alone. well no sir, everybody towing that line and coming out from brussels, we heard from the prime minister of hungry victor open saying strong men makes peace, weak men make rule. and then saying the trump stood bravely for peace. a. so we action coming for one full more russian president. this is to meet you made with dave who said, but this was a group tool dressing down essentially for the landscape. i think the question now that many need to be asking is what this means for us. you repeat and relations the feature, because this is a massive breakdown of that could cause

a while it's hard to get one's head around because europe cannot continue the war ukraine. you cannot continue the war. i in the bottom line that what happened during the last 30 years, i'm going to put it because this is a 30 year us project. is that the united states said were you in a polar, we do what we want. we expand militarily, where we want, we expand our influence, where we want i, in 2008 the us said, now we move made over to ukraine to georgia. i and a, this is a replay by the way of the pry me of more of 185321856, almost at the blueprint. and.

as a you just said, i just spent two weeks in europe.his hat, i don't know if you can see it, make europe great again. i got it at a summit of european if parties, 3 of them in -- 13 of them in madrid just two weeks ago. rachel: yeah. to you said this in op-ed that trump's rapid-fire activity, this whirlwind month of changes and and doge and if all of these reforms and looking behind the curtain, that it has left the european right with hope but also envy. there's sort of this sense of awe that they have about what we're doing here, and they're going, wait, maybe we could do it like that here in europe. >> well, they look at three things especially. they look at trump's successful, the dewokeification of american society. trump has actually -- a lot of the executive orders have dealt with the cultural issues, with race and with sex and with gender, and they really, they have this problem in europe just as much as we do. they're also very excited about a cutting down the permanent state, the bureaucracy is. they have the same issue there

europe has a message of support for president zelenskyy. "you are not alone."after the oval office meeting, european leaders have been rallying behind ukraine, especially their full backing of kyiv's effort to repel russia's invasion. the top diplomat read on x that europe "will step up our support to ukraine so they can continue to fight back the aggressor. today it became clear that the free world needs a new leader. it is up to us europeans to take this challenge." similar status of support also came from a string of other u.s. allies, including the leaders of france, germany, and poland. president zelenskyy thanked those leaders on social media. president trump was praised by hungary's prime minister who said the u.s. leader stood for peace, and the former russian president applauded mr. trump, calling president zelenskyy a "insolent pig who got a proper slap down." joining me now is stephen pifer, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. thank you for being with us. i think today might be what many people describe as unprecedented tension in the oval office. wha

and it's capping off what's been a few dizzying weeks for europe.t two weeks ago here in europe, at the munich security conference, vice president j.d. vance essentially attacked european democracy. and now this. you hear this furious back-channeling from different leaders. president emmanuel macron of france, for instance, did speak with president zelenskyy after that shouting match at the oval office. the elysee did not say what they spoke about, but a lot of other leaders have spoken among themselves. and this is what president emmanuel macron said after that drama, pointing out that this was not started by. ukraine. >> we all know the situation. there is an aggressor and that is russia. there are people attacked who are from ukraine. we were all right to help ukraine and sanction russia three years ago, and to continue to do so. and when i say we, i'm talking about the united states of america, the europeans, the canadians, the japanese and many others. and that's it. therefore, we must thank everyone who has helped, and we must help those who f

a europe is his a region of 450000000 people in the union. a 20 trillion dollar economy, a complimentary to the russian economy. they should be trading and mutually prosperous instead a, it's, everything's broken down and the, the, the hate talk is non stop. so that was the point that i was making get back to something that can possibly work. yeah for, for everybody. yeah. some kind of return to common sense. you know, we're hoping but that's the speech you gave jeffrey the you call them and it's sending ripples. it's an ripples around the world i've seen so many people reacting to this. and i just want to say on a personal level, i really admire that what you've been doing. you've been such a busy man these days on air, on line to the parliament. you didn't just give you scores to a speech of the parliament, you've been drilling down on europe's foreign policy. of course, as trump and jay, the volunteer taken out how to these traditional ties across the atlantic. what are your expectations going forward for your of jeffrey kennedy? do you th

um, overall, now, as far as europe, europe, uh, in supporting ukraine, they can continue to support ukraine, both politically, diplomatically and militarily. um, it will be much more difficult without the the overt support of the u.s. um, and that's definitely regrettable. but ukraine can still survive and it'll be tough, but it can still survive with the support of a united europe. >> so, general, let me ask you, you said that zelenskyy, all he had to do was be silent and have this conversation in private. but we saw when president macron was at the white house when with president trump, he corrected him when he said that europe was going to be repaid. we saw that the uk prime minister corrected the president when he said that europe was getting its money back. when vice president vance said that this is diplomacy and and president zelenskyy said rightfully we had a deal on a cease fire. he didn't keep it. we had a deal on exchange for prisoners. he didn't keep it. you say that was out of line, even considering the context of what we've seen this week from other european leaders who were a

so you see people that talking about europe and saying, we hope europe can help me find that out in the next 24 hours or so off to that meeting that we were referred to earlier with testimony europe. the latest was lensky needs to find. i don't tennessee? indeed. all right, that's a pitcher in k, the right time reporting. so the head here and i'll just there israel's minute tree is demolishing palestinian homes and parts of the occupied west bank. after forcing the residence out i'm present salumi in new york where 3 pro house time student activists are taking their university to court. i'll have the details coming up the have a lot of that is more active, whether it's a comm across northern parts of the south asia. but so sunday, it's down in the south where we all seem to west all the heavy rain. you can see that moving its way across to me. now these some big bus of rain as while are expected in sri lanka, with showers extending into southern parts of india. but for much of india, it is a very settled story with lots of sunshine that comes next west of the disturbance moving across c

you mentioned the rest of europe rallying to zelensky.hings that we saw today were leaders of democracies from all over europe publicly thanking zelensky today, standing with him in solidarity after this meeting with trump. you know, you talk about whether or not the united states is any longer associated with the free world, whether we are the leader of the free world, if we're not, is it becoming clear who is? >> well, i want to keep hope alive. the trump, president, trump and his team don't seem to be want to be part of the free world. but i'm an american, too. i want to be part of the free world. i hope there are other americans who believe the same as me, and i don't want them to turn this this way because i don't believe it serves america's interests. and by the way, there's a lot of americans like me who think we're more than just mineral deals. we stand for more of that. so it is the fight is still on. but to your point, yes, the center of gravity has moved to europe. i was at the munich security conference, actually, we talked at

the whole of ukraine, not the whole of europe. i don't even think he. and the reason, the reason i say that is because if we turn off the spigot, okay. and then we also go to the table with putin and say, ukraine, they're not really our allies anymore. the question i'm asking is, if you're from a negotiating, if you're vladimir putin, you would just say, okay, it's only a matter of time. i don't even have to deal with zelenskyy. i can just wait. i think because of what. >> i think, because of how long this war has been going on. and believe it or >> what's the linsky? a number of times he said that he had a conversation with the linsky this morning and he told him, this is don't take the bait. >> the media is going to try to bait you. don't take the bait. and he said that he was disappointed in what he saw from zelenskyy. and this was from somebody who has supported ukraine over and over. >> one of john mccain's former aides, mark salter, wrote this on twitter. i haven't referred to john mccain in my previous criticism of lindsay,

we have some they support for ukraine and it's with russia. floss i've drilling a hole in southern europe with folk area and greek, so locked in a dispute of the water that offers a glimpse of the environmental crises of the future. the . the 1st phase of the goal is to cease finding in a scheduled to end on saturday, but with moss saying, there are no tax taking place about a 2nd phase. it's future as in dallas, the globe accuses as well, of breaching some parts of the agreement, including blocking the entry of so so to humanitarian supplies. a solid been job aid looks at the stumbling blocks and the negotiations last few weeks, instead of celebrations, month to much or we did cease money for many palestinians. then began the journey home. long lines of men, women, and children clutching beat their belongings. nearly an entire population was dest based in israel, as war and gaza. and when the budman stopped, hundreds of thousands, march to return to homes, that no longer existed. we're going back home to see if it's destroyed or not. when i get there, i will cheer to does he slide on jan

and when i say we, i mean, so united states in europe and the canadians, japanese, and authors, we must think old folks who helped ever split with those who has been fighting since the beginning because they fight for their dignity, their independence to their children in the secuity of either of these simple things, we must to call off on this form and we seem to, well, let's bring in melana vessel. none of it. she's joining us live from london, and most european lead is echoing the com sentiment them and dana as indeed alongside the french president macro. and we've had some of these as a spain gemini, no way, even from the to the european commission, us leveling to lie, and in unison, supporting for the man the lensky. now the british prime minister kissed um, i wasn't among the 1st european need us to express his support. but once he did put out a statement, he said that he had spoken on the phone with, by donald trump and without him as a lensky. so he finds himself now in this role of a peace maker, not between russia and ukraine, but seemingly between the us and ukrainian preside

, basically asking the question if, in fact, trump throws ukraine under the bus, can europe count ones? i hope wiser heads can advise the president and get him to alter course because this will be detrimental to american security in the end. >> we appreciate your unique perspective, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine. >> thank you. >>> tonight president zelenskyy posted on social media thanking the american people and president trump for supporting ukraine, adding that his country needs a "just and lasting peace." >>> in the meantime president trump says he will impose tariffs on canada and mexico, starting next tuesday while doubling an existing 10% tariff on all imports from china. trump claims these import taxes will force countries to crack down on drug smuggling into the u.s. economists say those tariffs could especially hit hard right here in california since our economy relies heavily on imported goods. sooji nam spoke with one bay area small business owner worried about passing on those costs to his customers. >> reporter: jeff leopold is the owner of standard 5 and 10 ace har

who in europe do you see? or which part or pair of leaders in europe are prepared to step forward into this space? >> i'd say that there are 2. >> or. >> 3 candidates, and i think the europeans have to decide. i can't decide that for them. but obviously president macron, you know, he's been very good about dealing diplomatically with president trump. he also clearly is interested in taking the lead. and he he doesn't have his future in politics is uncertain. so he could potentially take the lead in some other way. and or maybe he will come to, to gain more power because of what's happening. and then of course, the new british prime minister, because president trump really does seem to be an anglophile, whether it's personality or i think a lot of it is, he likes the uk. so that and the british can rally more than just the europeans because they can reach out to the canadians and others. and then finally the. >> eu. >> the head of the eu, ursula von der leyen. she's a very strong diplomat. she comes from german

how do we help fund ukraine and the global security pact in europe?m hearing from one source that there are more leaders showing up to this meeting than were actually expected to show up. people have watched this. they really understand it and they've taken note. >> there was one european official who said it. now it's time for a new leader of the free world. but my question to you is what's wrong with that at this point? i mean, is it is it time for europe to just say, you know what, we got this. >> i think that's what's going to happen. i think this was clearly a moment of clarity that now for the european leaders, understand that the u.s. is completely unreliable. i mean, we're facing great dangers here. now, there is nobody that's going to say no to the trump, to trump anywhere in the republican establishment. there are 1 or 2 congressmen that are actually saying, this is absurd. what happened in the oval office? this is not what happens. this is not how you treat allies, but by and large, you have nobody that's going to face up to them. so what w