and this is another thing that milton friedman, you know, played a key role in. wall street journal, a piece recently that said in the five years, the number of state with universal voucher. went from 0 to 10. and that's an idea comes right out of capitalism and freedom. maybe it was, you know, it took red state governors and conservative activists to bring it about. but it's, you know something he was talking about 1961 of and yet despite you know some of those those occasional alliances with conservatives as you detail in the book, historically libertarians have had a pretty fraught relationship with the right. let's talk a little bit about that fusion ism. the original meyer idea and how, you know, prominent concern and libertarians reacted to you know, this bid for unity between traditionalists and libertarians. yeah you know you can kind of look at the the conservative side for russell kirk as kind of the the you know, the epitome of that traditional version of conservatism that has been the most hostile toward libertarianism. very much believe that there wa

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. >> don't be tom friedman. >> jesse: jesse friedman here.s from pakistan, he's a fan, so i'm like okay. i ask him how the speech went and he said, what al green did was so disrespectful, no matter who it is you have to respect te the office.ce so he's from pakistan, married his wife from india, love honquers all, and they bot voted for donald trump. and here's why, illegal immigration. they said what they saw was whes all of these people came into the country and started getting free benefits, it's stretched all the services in their county and then he's working around-the-clock and paying all of these taxes and biden is a sending all this money overseand toen countries he's never heard of ove. you look at a guy like this, driving me to the airport, you don't see a trump voter. you assume not a trump voter. these are the people that are voting for donald trump and it's not because of what he says oris -- it's because of the issues, jessica. and last night the democrats basically burn the flag. they went out and knelt during the national anth

surprise you to know that the amounts were $5 million to howard udell and $3 million to michael friedman decisions are being made not based on the facts. and what's in the best interest of the american people. these are decisions being made by politics and personal gain. >> you spent more than 30 years as a federal prosecutor. where does all of this leave your faith in the justice department? >> i am greatly disappointed in the justice department because everything that the department has done since 2007 to today has been to protect the billionaires, the sackler family. >> the sacklers maintain their innocence and have agreed to settle claims in the bankruptcy not as an admission of guilt but to end years of litigation. the family will also give up ownership of purdue, but their vast wealth remains. in the years leading up to the bankruptcy, the sacklers took about $11 billion out of purdue, more than 70% of the company's total assets. "60 minutes" asked to interview members of richard sackler's family but did not hear back on that request. >> do you have any guilt from living off the pr

and you back in the day, my mentor, milton friedman, the nobel laureate in economics, he's a we'd have a dinner table conversation and he'd say sally, you talk about getting rid of the fda. it'll never happen the fda, but originally was introduced as a safety organization, and the fda was effective in in denying coming to market in america where it caused in europe. in canada, there were a lot of children who were affected by the thalidomide situation, by young pregnant women. but he said that problem with the fda is it moved away from safety to including effectiveness or efficacy. and so, you know, this has really made it very and as i say one in ten drugs makes it through the whole trial process and it about 12 years so when as you know the 21st century cures act which you wrote a lot about back in 2016, which was passed called on the fda to expedited modernize the review process and to harness, you know, world evidence and give specialists mention to innovative and emerging areas of drug research and regenerative medicine. i'm kind of i'm my fingers crossed that. marty makary is con

now, it's possible that trump is that incompetent, but i tend to agree with thomas friedman, who said this morning that now trump is more sympathetic with a brutal, repressive autocrat like vladimir putin than he is with ukraine. and by the way, i say that you can say, well, gosh, we can't keep pouring money into it. how long is this war going to go? you can want to get an end to the war. short of ukraine's maximalist goals. and i can find that very reasonable. but if you wanted that, you would want a sovereign, democratic ukraine with security guarantees to protect itself. you would want to keep arming ukraine to put pressure on putin, to force him to the table. and that's not what trump is doing. >> and so trump has called zelenskyy a dictator. he's mocked him. right. they said, oh, i don't remember saying that. you know, all of the things that he said, lindsey graham, ally of trump, has called for new leadership. so now it's interesting. the opposition to zelenskyy, tymoshenko, poroshenko, they have said they don't even want elections right now. so it's not as if zelenskyy is going

thomas friedman joins the discussion.mber of the house armed services committee, democratic congressman adam smith will join us to weigh in on president trump's second term, the war in ukraine, and so much more. also, nbc's julia ainsley is standing by with her new reporting detailing the growing fears over the trump administration's ice raids and why it's keeping some students out of the classrooms. we're back in one minute, right? >> kids? >> i'm sure you're wondering. >> why your mother and i asked. >> you here tonight. it's because. >> it's a buffet of all you can eat. butterfly shrimp and sirloin steak. >> yeah, that's the reason. >> i don't get it. >> do you haveomm or just stop . >> for the. >> ones who get it done. >> trump once again reversed. >> course and announced that he's pausing. >> the tariffs against mexico and canada for one month when he describes. >> his economic policy. >> trump said. >> basically. >> i just keep hitting snooze. >> can you believe. >> we're shaking. >> down canada? they must be. >> so

and the milton friedman quote is this. going to expand it. you shared a part of it that's very important and i went back and looked at the context of that quote and i will expand the full context. milton friedman said this, keepe your eyes on the one thing and the one thing only, how much the government is >> because that's the true tax. the key to fiscal sanity is not just making tax cuts permanent. doing so in a fiscally responsible way. we have a once in a decade opportunity and perhaps one of gender -- once in a generation duty to bring back economic crisis which is why we need to be as passionate about cutting >> as we are preventing a massive tax increase. i work with my colleagues in the senate on the house to deliver just that. after the passage of the tax cuts and jobs act we saw one of the greatest economies in the history of our country and then of course we had the black swan event of covid. we cut taxes and wages increased household income rose by $5000. it was across every demographic minorities benefited gre

was from tracy of room 1957 at the project of the united states successive democratic republican friedman, eisenhower administrations the marshall plan, you know, the greatest set of active aid in history to rebuild post for europe, america very, very wisely and skilfully conditioned age to european countries on the degree to which they cooperated and hold that results is in other words, america helped create the european union for a very good reason that it would make war again on the continent impossible opening for at least very unlikely and then it would produce the kind of prosperity in the european union that would, would create markets for american companies, but also stave off the communist threat, the appeal of communism. and it was that one of the grand, i think, unique in history success is that the hedge a month that a big imperial power would actually full enlightened self interest for 9 reasons. create a collaborative block, the other side of the ocean of the atlantic for its own group, but also for america's good and trumpet signaling, the end of that era. and i at. and it'

also the inconvenience of friedman, i'm terrorism charges previously called for the p 10 k, to laid down on in 2013 very peaceful the service government process collapsed in 2015, getting to renewed 5 people who will say that they have 5 of the young. i'm glad it is. i want the political solution to end the decades, the loan of citizens this issue cannot be resolved with weapons or floors. we do not want to see blood on our doorsteps anymore. enough is enough. we said may be there will be peace, maybe our children will not be killed anymore. we left home early in the morning to come here with joy. now we are returning in tears for those who have the power to make peace and do not do so. let them suffer from the pain of their children as we did. they are deceiving us, is that i felt that there had been victims on both sides. is really needs to end. that's my opinion. and i suppose i have now to make a somebody that award winning jones on the wrong costs of monic. oh is good to see you. thanks for joining us. a today on, on see now to care has been of close fighting against the p k. k. in

and the central does is it all on the benjamin friedman is policy directed defense priorities. he says regional politician is likely to struggle to negotiate with his route when they are backed by the trump administration. steve wake up, who is the envoy who is handling the negotiations for the united states? i mean, he has a good relationship with the guitar governments. you tromping ministration tends to be close less tropic industries and certainly was to saudi arabia. so, you know, i think they have a voice, the regional governments. the problem i think is that this president is notably close, not really to man yahoo himself but to the is really right wing in there uh that actors and united states. so i worry that the voices of people following for the implementation of the success of the ceasefire deal that was negotiated will be drowned out by more right wing voices in the united states. and israel issue uh is, will uh israel agree where they ever planning to agree in a real way to pull one of their troops out of gaza. or did they just sort of agree to that in a future ph

he complained in interviews with pod, castor, lex, friedman, and other figures that a 175000000000 had been given to his country and half of it has disappeared. he doesn't know where it went. so that's one reason why donald trump and ged vance were pushing forward and association of hostilities between ukraine and rusher. because this is becoming unpopular among the, for the american taxpayer, at least a plurality of americans. and a majority of republicans have concluded that the united states has given too much to ukraine for too little because it's losing on the battlefield. and the acknowledgements are coming in every day on the pages of the papers that have been the biggest cheerleaders for the war. so where did the money go? well, it went back to the belt way. it went to the contractors. it went to the belt way, bandits. it went to the arms industry. we know that, but it also went to, as samantha power, openly acknowledged when she was the director of us say i did pay for ukrainian pensioners, ukrainian school teachers and cranny, and medical workers. while the american public is

let's bring in right now foreign affairs columnist for the new york times, thomas friedman.multuous plus years. hey, tom, thank you so much for being with us. i don't i don't i don't want to talk about the competition this morning, but i don't think you'll mind. wall street journal editorial page i just want to read you a little bit about what they say about donald trump's dealings currently with with russia. if mr. putin really wants peace, why would he object to a modest deployment that poses no threat in russia? the answer is that the post war goal is to leave ukraine in a weakened state that isn't aligned with the west, and is ripe for his next imperial assault. he wants to own or dominate ukraine full stop. meanwhile, the u.s. continues to squeeze zelensky. if mr. trump wants to end the killing, why is he withholding intel that will encourage russia to escalate and kill more ukrainian civilians and soldiers? this is a one sided peace process, and ukraine is supposed to make all the concessions, while russia demands more rewards for its unprovoked invasion that has kille

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chair crapo: during our discussion you quoted one of my heroes milton friedman and the milton friedman quote is this. you shared part of this. it is very important. i went back and looked at the context of it. milton friedman said this, "keep your eye on one thing and one thing only. how much the government is spending because that's the true tax." it is well said. the key to fiscal sanity is not just making tax cuts permanent but doing so in a fiscally responsible way. we have a once in a decade opportunity, perhaps a once in a generation opportunity to bring back economic greatness which is why i believe we need to be as impassioned about cutting spending as we are at preventing a massive tax increase. i am working with my colleagues here in the senate and the house to deliver that. after the passage of the tax cuts and jobs act of 17, we saw one of the greatest economies in the history of our country. of course, we had the black swan event of covid. we cut taxes. wages increased. household income rose by $5,000. it was across every demographic. minorities benefited greatly from this

university of southern california sociology professor brittany friedman on the formation of american prison gangs. exploring the american story. watch american history tv or watch online anytime at c-span.org/history. >> democracy. it isn't just an idea. it's a process shaped by leaders elected to the highest offices and entrusted to a select few regarding its basic principles. it's where debates unfold, decisions are made and the nation's course is charted. democracy in real-time. this is your government at work. this is c-span, having you your democracy unfiltered. >> president trump a series of executive orders related to health care. he took questions on the russia ukraine peace negotiations. from the oval office, this is about 40 minutes. >> thank you very much. we are having some good news today. a lot of companies are coming into our country and they are signing deals that are going to create a lot of jobs and they feel good about our country and may the tariffs to a certain extent. they feel very good about the tariffs and so do i. great things are happening. we are going to

russia, and brazil authoritarian, not like we're all milton friedman, free market open trading, thereht to step in. i think scott bessent whoy we have talked about this for some time, better part of last year, you can't allow this to continue. >> that is right, this is not as if you are trading with the friendly neighbor next door, there are a lot of other considerations, i think that ising that some president and secretary bessent recognize. and they are willing to deal with, they are willing to get their hands dirty and do the hard work so many refused to get into the rewi weeds and deal with it. larry: last one, ej antoni, trump stew tuesday night, mentioned that tack poll -- tax policy and tax cut and 100% immediate write-off expensing for machinery and equipment. retro active to january. but i didn't realize this, scott b bessent said that retro active to january 20, 100% expensing including factories, if you build a new factory you will get 1 h 100% write-off and retro active to january 20, not apartment houses or shopping malls, that is you may have known that. i did not. >> we

friedman, you're recognized for five minutes. rep. friedman: we've heard a lot about rail investments on farm and freight and that's wonderful and true. we've also heard about the need to find ways of funding our rail infrastructure both for safety and economic development. and i want to bring up another facet to this which is important to my district which is housing. i represent los angeles, as you know we've been devastated by recent wildfires that left maybe 12,000 or more people homeless and that's running straight into a existing housing crisis that already had tens of thousands homeless in our community and many others facing severe overcrowding and thousands of people who can't afford their rent because of the housing shortage driving up the price of rent. to me it's been obvious many years working on transportation issues that we're not solving our housing prices in los angeles or many parts of our country without figuring out mobility. the first thing neighbors say when anyone wants to add housing in los angeles and many par

. >> tom friedman said the ambush was, quote, something. >> that had never happened. >> in the nearly. 250 year history of this. country in a major. >> war in europe. >> our president. clearly sided with the aggressor, the. dictator and the invader against the democrat, the freedom. >> fighter and. >> the invaded. >> this is a total. >> perversion of u.s. foreign policy. practiced by every president since. >> world war one. >> my fellow americans, we are in completely uncharted waters, led by a president who. >> well. >> i cannot believe he is a russian agent, but he sure plays one on tv. >> just try to imagine. anything like that. >> oval office exchange with vladimir putin. >> sitting there. >> it would never happen. not with trump. >> and it's not because zelenskyy isn't thankful enough. he's thanked the president. house and senate lawmakers and the american people many, many, many. >> times, including. >> in his speeches to congress. from which he received standing ovations from democrats. >> and republicans alike. >> for goodness sake, he thanked. >> donald trump today. >> on soc

and that was tom friedman. the washington post editorial page, and the wall street journal editorial page. >> and yesterday we did hear from some republicans on this. we heard from republican senator, a member of the. intelligence committee, james lankford. >> as well. >> as house speaker mike johnson. >> who were. >> both clear. about the. threats posed by russian president vladimir putin. >> no, we're not. >> turning our back on. >> ukraine, nor. >> should we. putin is a murderous kgb thug that murders his political enemies and is a. dictator there. and so we've seen that. we've seen his aggression. countries around him have seen that. what i hear president trump saying. >> over and over. >> again is we need to get to a stop and fighting, find some resolution. i understand zelensky is rightfully concerned that putin has violated every single agreement he's ever signed, and that he can't be trusted. i think they understand each other and that obviously there are differences where zelensky wants more in the way

i mean, this is a situation where to oakland fans, paul friedman and brian carmel. together and created this team. it was created by fans. so it's really important for them to have fans at the table. fans involved in decisions and obviously the ball is promise never to leave. oakland, it's all for oakland by oakland, but fans do have a say they have a say in our branding. they have a say in in what we do at the stadium. they're going to have a say in a lot of different things. and so yes, having the fans be at the table is critical because it's all about the people in what we do for them and how we invest back into them. and so, yeah, that is the most important thing here is making sure the bands do have the power of ownership in do have the power to influence this team's future. since you said the word investment idea get like what if i spend the money? >> what do i get a return? like? how does that work? i've never owned a part of a team. yeah. it's just like a regular >> you know, if the value visit, you get the value with that. if it goes down, hopefully never d

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case that i heard thomas friedman make. >> on this network earlier today.if putin takes ukraine. >> i don't know, but. >> the effect is 100% certain, and. >> it. >> is to empower. putin and prolong the war. now trump. >> and his supporters. >> like. >> to say, look, he just wants to end the war. he wants. >> to get a peace deal. >> what he's doing is having the exact. >> opposite effect. >> he's putting. all of the pressure on. >> zelensky. >> crippling zelensky as. >> you just described. >> while zelensky is. >> already under. >> enough pressure from russia, from putin. >> and trump. >> is. >> completely throwing the door open for putin, putin is not going to come. >> to the table. >> if trump's taken all the. >> pressure off. >> of him. so his moves are either idiotic. >> or clearly. >> designed to. >> abandon ukraine in. favor of putin. either way. it's a disaster. >> for. >> us credibility and. >> for our. >> global interests. >> not to mention. >> of course, for ukraine and much. >> of europe. >> yeah. so there's this obsession donald trump has with ge

did the friedmans bureau get involved in this? yes. the free to reunite families trying to help families. yes, definitely. people yes. when people were searching their family members, they definitely recruited members of the freedmen's bureau, they would go to you know, they they would ask for help from the freedman's. yes. yeah. but that was over pretty. yes, very briefly. yeah. it wasn't around long and they had a lot of other. yeah. the freedman's bureau had had a giant charge in front of them and, and like probably a 10th of the number of people that they needed to do the work. but yes. and u.s. colored troops were often enlisted in this and missionaries pretty much. who was in the postwar south reported on the phenomenon of people coming to them, saying, need can you help me find you my people? so, yeah. yes, please. i had a person. is there anything like this? is there anything like this going on in other such as brazil or the the british, the british colonies, any kind of i mean, i don't want to jump in, but in the aftermath of

because he's just not that smart at negotiating or whether or not it is the case that i heard thomas friedmane on this network earlier today. that trump ultimately doesn't care if putin takes ukraine. i don't know, but the effect is. 100% certain, and it is to. empower putin and prolong the war. now trump. and his supporters like to say, look, he just wants to end the war. he wants to get a peace deal. what he's doing is having the exact opposite effect. he's putting all of the pressure on zelensky, crippling zelensky as you just described. while zelenskyy is already under enough. pressure from russia, from putin, and trump is completely throwing the door open for putin, putin is not going to come to the table if trump's taken all the pressure off of him. so his moves are either idiotic or clearly designed to abandon ukraine in favor of putin. either way, it's a disaster for us credibility and for our global interests. not to mention, of course, for ukraine and much of europe. >> yeah. so there's this obsession donald trump has with getting paid back. now that misses a lot of the point. and t

cnn's danny friedman has that story. >> in many ways. >> sprinkles neighborhood. >> market was. >> just >> any other local grocery store until the president came to town. >> they caused inflation at a number that nobody can believe. we've never seen numbers like this. >> a month. >> before election day, president trump visited the family owned grocery store. >> in rural kittanning, pennsylvania. >> to drive home a critical campaign promise. >> when i win, i will immediately bring prices down starting on day one. >> yet. >> despite the promise and the visit. >> now at seven. >> prices have stayed stubbornly high. >> professionally. >> it. >> was the wildest 37. >> minutes. of my life. >> ryan sprinkle, now clean shaven, is the owner of. >> the store. >> he proudly gave trump the tour back in september. and ryan voted for trump, in large part because he said prices would come down. are you concerned that that hasn't happened yet? >> i'll be honest. >> you know. >> no matter who's trying to get your vote, you know, i think there's always a. >> certain. >> amount of overpromising. >> while

i mean, it's like milton friedman said, like money is most poorly spent when you're spending someonen people you don't know, how much are you going to care, right? and that's the that's the federal government. >> someone else's money on people you don't know. okay. so using that logic, let's just take a look at what musk has done. cancer research. apparently that's a waste. even if it's for 911 firefighters, still a waste. how about medicaid health coverage? you know, for people in or near the poverty level? apparently that's both fraud and waste. spending money to try to hire more veterans? well, that's a dei program, according to musk. so that's a waste, too. and it also seems that a lot of the so-called waste is in the agencies that just happen to be overseeing or investigating the companies that elon musk runs. just consider what's been on the chopping block so far. the folks setting rules around self-driving cars. well, that's a big business project for musk. he calls that waste and gave them a 50% cut. the national highway traffic safety administration investigating car safety

milton friedman said this. your eye on one thing and one thing only. how much the government is spending because that's the true tax. while said. the key to physical sanity is not just making tax cuts are met but doing so and a fiscally responsible way. a once in a decade, perhaps once in a generation opportunity to bring back economic greatness which is why we need to be passionate as cutting spending as we are at preventing massive tax increase. after the passage of the tax cuts and jobs act we saw one of the greatest economies in the history of our country and the end of covid. we cut taxes household income rose by 5000 across every demographic benefited greatly and revenues an all-time high in the democrats reckless tax agenda wipe out the games. how would cutting funding unleash the american economy? >> if you look at the fiscal challenge, over 50 years prior to the pandemic, federal funding average 20% consent approximately 23% remains in that range. it has the potential to crowd out logic deficits capital that could be available for small busine

plus, new york times opinion columnist thomas friedman will weigh in on the workforce cuts as he arguesapparent shift in the administration's defense policy. david drucker will explain his reporting for the dispatch on the mixed signals coming from president trump. plus, ranking member of the house armed services committee, democratic congressman adam smith of washington will join the conversation. a jam packed morning when morning joe starts just moments from now. >> you're seeing skechers famous glide step footwear everywhere. >> and now that. >> famous design. >> is. >> available in hands free. skechers slip ins get the. >> comfort and style of glide step now. >> with the convenience of slip >> with the convenience of slip ins. you want high-performance, long-lasting, affordable tools. you want harbor freight tools. whatever you do, do it for less at harbor freight. save even more at our parking lot sale going on now. i used to struggle with dandruff and scalp issues, but then i started using head & shoulders every wash. cause the active ingredient in head & shoulders fights off the

>> milton friedman said he wanted to allow illegal immigration to continue. disagree with the position on that. we should have legal immigration to build a wall around the welfare state, not around the country. that is in the best interest of taxpayers. >> i would argue under the current system where you have sanctuary cities popping up it is not possible to build that wall. >> absolutely, you can. >> you are done. choosing between securing our nation are protecting the taxpayer. i yield back. >> the chair recognizes mr. bell from missouri. >> thank you, mr. chair. in the 80s, there was the war on drugs that did not go so well we essentially created classes of criminals for people, citizens, who just needed help. i will not recount that entire history, but i do not think we realize the error of our ways until it impacted more affluent communities particularly with the opioid epidemic. so, now, republicans have began a new campaign, war on immigrants. while republicans and democrats both recognize the need to strengthen our borders, instead of sitting down and

thank you member friedman any other committee discussion? i wanted to add my self to this talk with the folks had member walton all right i just want to i mean appreciate this and then as we look forward i remember earlier this year we had budget projections that also looked at the following two fiscal years where there were shortfalls. and so we want to keep that in mind in terms of what we've generally focused on the fact of keeping programs going that are productive and vital. so i don't disagree member frydenberg with what you're saying but i also know that we've had these projections that say following 25, 26, 26, 27 the next two years there were quite large shortfalls when we start looking out that far. so and that was the fact that the departments were using savings and one time money to fill gaps for the 2526 and 2627 years. so i think we have to take a longer view than just what the budget cycle is for two years just to make sure that we're not faced down the line with having to consider which vital programs we can't afford to conti