axios reporter hans nichols joins us. you have scoop on that, that is best card they've got, don't show up or bring somebody that got fired? >> that is their plan and challenge. what those sound bites you played touches in important debate in the party, just to break it down, should they stay or should they go? the members that want to go, their directive from leadership from hakeem jeffries, minority l le leader chuck schumer is clear, bring a guest, have them in gallery and drive a separate narrative. you might see people dismissed or affected by healthcare cuts. whole challenge and strategy from leaders is to focus on gallery and not what the president is saying. as you played there, there are a lot of lawmakers defying leaders and don't want to go on the democratic side. >> steve: it is very unfortunate, a lot of people are losing their jobs with doj cuts. when you look at public opinion polls, majority of americans like what is happening to make federal government more efficient. same thing on the southern border, ti