ali rogin spoke earlier with john eligon, the johannesburg bureau chief for "the new york times." i: john, thank you so much for being with us. first of all, tell us about this new land policy. john: so essentially, what the government has done is they've passed a law that allows the government to take land without providing compensation to the people they take it from. basically, the justification that the south african government gives for this is that we know through the long history of apartheid in south africa that black people were essentially robbed of their land. so, they are really looking at ways to sort of make right some of the inequalities that happened during apartheid. ali: president trump, in his executive order, referred specifically to white south africans. but then in a later social media post, he invited all farmers to consider the united states a place to come if they felt that they were being discriminated. do you think that that shift in language was deliberate? john: it's hard to say. as we've seen with many of the president's social media posts, that they a