the problem is rogan and musk aren't right leaning per se.y themselves. and the problem with the left is that he they made freedom to talk and enjoy themselves right coded so if anyone has a free ranging conversation and tell a few jokes ends up being a right leaning person in their book. they gave away that part of the game. that wasn't smart. people like to listen to people who are having gun fun, free ranging conversations. >> laura: what does it say to the democrats that they pushed all these people out of the party. they pushed them all out. robert f. kennedy jr. joe rogan probably elon musk. the list is only going to get longer and longer. alex and mary katharine, thank you. zelenskyy is dressed for success and stripped down. raymond arroyo just us next. ♪ honestly, i was scared when i was told age related macular degeneration could jeopardize my vision. great. one more thing to worry about. it was all too hard to deal with in the beginning, but making a plan with my doctor to add precision was easy. preservision areds2 contains the exa

both rogan and elon used to be darlings of the left. now i guess they just like zelensky. >> yeah that's right. >> and it. >> must face a really interesting point here, laura, that i hadn't thought of that. why did we just give the nazis the. >> 45 degree salute? >> it's the what? >> we can. >> only have the 90 degree. or the 0 degrees and say. >> well. >> who consented to this? doesn't make you nazi because you put your hand up at a 45. >> degree angle. >> it's so absurd. like no. >> one actually thinks he's a nazi. isn't that the fundamental question? >> do you actually think. >> musk is a nazi? no one. really thinks that. >> so anyone who uses. >> that logic is just clearly just. >> a partizan. >> that doesn't. like that he's threatening the bureaucracy. the whole point of doge is that that musk must points this out in the interview. >> laura, he thinks half the government. >> is waste. half the government is waste. he points out how a stacey. >> abrams funded. >> ngo got $100 and turned that into $2 billion. that is the biggest scan

elon musk appearing on joe rogan's podcast for a marathon three-hour sit-down, the two men coming togreement on u.s. spending and doge and more. welcome to fox news live. i'm griff jenkins. we'll have more on those stories coming up. we begin with a fox news alert. ukrainian president is meeting in the u.k. with prime minister keir starmer after the dispute with president trump in the oval office. this leaves the future of russia and ukraine in doubt this weekend. lucas tomlinson is in palm beach, florida where we start things. hey, lucas. >> good afternoon, griff. president trump is at his winter white house in mar-a-lago, sticking a tee in the ground today, one day after that unprecedented, as you mentioned, meeting in the oval office. nobody has seen something that contentious in the white house ever. the meeting went off the rails 40 minutes in, as a reporter asked president trump if he's aligning himself too much with vladimir putin. president trump responded he's trying to keep in the middle between ukraine and russia. and vice-president j.d. vance jumped in and wants to see di

elon musk would have wanted to have been there but with joe rogan.g on, pope francis is rested after his respiratory condition suddenly worsened yesterday. rachel: jeff is live with more. reporter: good morning. after several days of seemingly slow improvements and the vatican saying last night that pope francis suffered from isolated breathing crisis, though they tell us he had a quiet night and he's resting, but this is the second time pope francis has suffered some sort of medical crisis in the span of about a week or so. and the pope was helped with a mask that covered his nose and mouth and breathing normally and in good spirits and pope francis experienced a bronco 135678 and the area that connects the windpipe to thelings tightened in the pope's case and led to vomiting with inhalation and pope francis remained alert and the pope spent 15 nights at the hospital in rome where catholics continue to show up and pray more the pope's full recovery. >> we're one with the pope in this situation. we come here to pray for him and as we believe that we

federal workers told once again to justify their work as elon musk joined joe rogan for a wide-ranginging doge is a threat to bureaucracy, not democracy. the office of personnel management e-mail came four hours after the end of the business day and asked employees to reply with approximately five bullets describing what you accomplished last week and cc your manager. going forward the message said, please complete the above task each week by mondays at1:59 p.m. --1:59 'em9. peter: the best part i saw so far was from the transportation secretary. here's my five things. [laughter] i'm getting fired. rachel: he's not getting fired. he's not getting doge'd. listen, elon musk always a went on with joe rogan to talk about this, you know, to talk about this bureaucracy, this stubborn, stuck in the mud bureaucracy and saying you can decide, america, if you want a bureaucracy running your country or if you actually want a democracy run by the people. listen. >> -- should be celebrating that we've found a way to cut out fraud and waste. >> yeah. >> if you pay taxes and you don't like that you h

scott jennings, josh rogan, thank you both so much. europe waking up to some dramatic headlines this their morning. the sun's front page ukraine hero ambushed with the headline the white house, the daily mirror piece hopes in tatters. shock and war and the times meltdown in oval office. so what are america's allies and vladimir putin thinking right now, i wonder? former republican congressman adam kinzinger, standing by with his own assessment. and later we've got the new timeline and the death of gene hackman as the curious case gets even stranger. >> upset stomach iberogast, indigestion, iberogast, bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better six digestive symptoms the power of nature. >> iberogast my accountant who uses unsecured email, has all my tax info. >> tax forms, have all the personal info thieves need to steal your identity. that's why lifelock monitors millions of data points for identity theft. get a first year offer at lifelock.com. >>

but i get that that brought many of these young men into the arms of the likes of a joe rogan.ll of that. i absolutely get that. but these men, what they're accused of human trafficking. on what planet would it make sense for any part of the maga movement or the administration? alina habba, the president's former personal lawyer, now part of the administration, was just on a podcast with this guy saying, i'm a big fan of yours. how is this a smart move? how is this even a good move? again, this just goes back to decency. >> you're asking me, and i just want to say. >> because i think maybe you were a meathead back in the. >> day. >> i hate you for inviting me on the show and forcing me to learn about andrew tate. >> who i. >> was able to live blissfully without. >> not anymore. >> i had to prepare for this show. >> look, i think. >> it's part of a whole. idea out there. that there was a better time in america. >> a better. >> time in our culture. and for some people, that's a time when men dominated. and women were subordinate to men. and i think that's part of it. and i don't

elon musk was actually on the joe rogan experience podcast.e a quick listen to that. >> they say that trump is a threat to our democracy, which is ironic, he was elected with majority of the popular vote. they're saying i was a threat to democracy. if you just replace threat to democracy with bureaucracy, that makes sense, that the revolution could succeed, restore power to the people instead of to the bureaucracy. >> there's a complaint that what elon musk is doing isn't fair because he's not elected. you are the elected officials to weave this into spending bills, how americans' money is being spent. is that who you you look at it? >> i think we are. we look at it of a high perspective, donald trump, president trump brought what is probably the greatest entrepreneur, a man who looks at complex ideas, brings the answers to the table. we are using the things not only that he's bringing to the table, but we also as members of congress have a responsibility as the chairman of government reform and oversight, government operations committee, last

it is still a small fraction of joe rogan, but we are trying to be a part of this landscape. the last thing i will say, to lure people in, to read our essays about malign influence, the eric adams case, fara, faqa. we have two cooking columns, pets every friday. our first tire was a humor columnist. we have just hired a very prominent culture writer who will be taking over our culture pages. we are sending a sports reporter to spring training, talking about the commonalities between spring training, and we are now in spring training for democracy as we embark on this for-year flight. i gave away the lead of my story which i'm cowriting with this sports columnist going to florida. and if we do not figure out -- not reach everybody -- but you need a governing mass of the american people. if we cannot persuade a governing mass of the american people of these issues, in pretty short order, we have to build this and break through in the next four years, or i fear we are in for a long winter indeed. if we cannot solve that problem, american democracy, and therefore the world, will

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. >> rogan puts them. >> on his podcast. and that's been fox news.n fox news. millions of people have. >> heard them. and that's true. >> it's 100% true. the difference is that it used to be. >> the role of the media was to say, actually. >> we're not going to amplify fake things. we're not going to say, you know, oh, look, everyone's talking about this. if what they're talking about is false. and so the challenge. for republicans. >> not for. >> trump. >> because he exists. >> in this. >> universe and he helps create this. >> universe. >> but for republicans. >> who are responsible to constituents, is. that they. exist in a. >> world where they don't hear any of. >> the contrary information. >> they literally don't. >> they hear from their base. >> and they hear from. >> you know, their their colleagues and their. peers that this is how the. world is when that's not how the world is. and then they go out into the world and they learn how the world is, and it can be jarring. >> what are you talking about? jesse watters last week, he also talked about