commissioner salander. and commissioner thomas. i regarding the other two that really stood out, herren seemed particularly problematic in that they didn't allow an inspector indoors to inspect. >> is that something they've been educated on? generally, yes. yes. we've had multiple opportunity needs to educate the management and though the complaints are relatively few and far between we have experienced the same thing multiple times and this time i believe deputy director has a veto was able to get them to apply for a permit in the most recent correspondence correct. >> the business owner just agreed to pull one times moving forward. was the response to that a.b.? i do have a problem issuing even when times. for businesses that are going to be hostile to our staff and not allow them to inspect. >> i agree. second, how would you like us to. can you give us guidance on that for future applications that are submitted in the one time through the one time portal? >> so we would i think what are the options? yeah, i think we might need t

commissioner salander. >> ah, you know he's recused and commissioner thomas, i. all right.congratulations. those have been approved being on the next permit on our regular agenda tonight is for a limited live performance permit that includes outdoor amplified sound at the front of the business for rail ground coffee located at 2216 polk street real ground is a coffee shop that serves other small bites and is normally open 7:30 a.m. to 6 p.m. daily. under this llp permit they are seeking the ability to host indoor entertainment such as djs until 11 p.m. daily. additionally they'd like to help drive in foot traffic by playing outdoor amplified sound at the front of the business daily between 9 a.m. to 10 p.m. but shall not exceed six hours per day. inspector young ray set an internal sound limit for this space and educated the owner about the allowable outdoor sound limit so as not to exceed ambient volumes at a distance 50ft from the property plane for outreach the owner sent out letters to their nearby commercial and residential buildings including the tenants above their b