and his view of stalin was very negative. but because he had ruled for 29 years, he was a legend, if you spoke one word against stalin you could be killed. and what khrushchev did was in this one speech destroyed the myth, the legend, the fears that surrounded the russian people when they thought about stalin. khrushchev called stalin a murderer because of what he did during world war ii. he would point out the thousands and thousands of people during the 1930's that stalin sent off to siberia. and khrushchev wanted a different kind of russia. a different russia and he began to release people from siberia, he loosened opportunities to write and to speak and he opened the gates of the kremlin to an influx of western businessmen and scholars and journalists. it was in that opening that i slipped through and a lot of other reporters slipped through. it was an incredibly exciting time. and when i returned to 1959 to cover richard nixon's visit, it was also a stark debate with khrushchev at that time. some people don't member that

to which stalin apocryphally said, we don't really know if he said it or not.ons does the pope have? and i think about that all the time, because i think, how many divisions does john roberts have? let's assume that the courts finally say that trump is just acting extrajudicially and that he needs to stop. >> who is. >> going to enforce those orders? and are we getting to the point where this president is going to say, i truly don't care what the courts say i'm going to do? and stephen miller is going to say, i'm going to do whatever we want to do and not what the courts say, because the courts are illegitimate or the courts were appointed. some of these justices were appointed by democrats or whatever excuse they come up with. we've seen that already starting to happen. and the fear that i have is when that happens, that's when the constitutional rupture just fully happens. >> that's when we're in the middle of a constitutional crisis. >> but who's going to enforce it? yeah. and the answer is, of course, the courts don't have the ability to enforce that. feder

in 1943, he met with soviet premier joseph stalin, outlining his idea for an international organization with, quote, "four policemen"-- the united states, britain, china, and the soviet union. franklin d. roosevelt: we have learned that we cannot live alone at peace, that our own well-being is dependent on the well-being of other nations far away. fareed zakaria: tragically, roosevelt would not live to see his dream realized. reporter: the flag flies at half staff as a grief-stricken nation mourns the death of franklin delano roosevelt, president of the united states. fareed zakaria: just weeks after his death, delegates from 50 nations finalized the charter for fdr's dream-- the united nations. reporter: the charter of a new world is born. fareed zakaria: the un was just one prong of a new american-led world order, meant to ensure that there would never be a third world war. william i. hitchcock: we accept the principle that american power in the world is a good thing. isolationism is not the way to peace. neutrality is not the way to peace. building the structures of american power wi

. >> we tried that in the 20th century, under joseph stalin and mao nazis from a regime's, the most ruledhip religion can be problem and they do whatever they want opposed them so that's where the emphasis they say they are to religious. america is religious country to begin with and it's helped because they have the society. of course religiously enforcing religion is a problem it could be but dictatorship and therefore i think liberalization is a great natural rights so every culture can private sources within its more liberal. having equality under the law and fascism obstacle and a good force standing up. and i'm thinking of those who really islam is a way to push for liberalism and democracy. and it uses cli. and islam was never supposed to be tyrannical force. the script a little bit. and eurocentric bias. but furthermore, this notion that religion have will affect and authoritarianism whereas actually understanding where it's run or hinduism or christianity, it would seem nonsensical see they are christians of billy they are going to be violent. certainly there are aspects that cou

it reminds me of that famous biography, the double biography, say hitler and stalin, you know, and you put them side side. they're completely different. and and yet somehow there are these parallels and there are a lot of parallels. and a lot of times when these these actually converge, i mean, both sarah and jenny are in paris together. their formative years are spent in paris that both admirers, empress eugenie, they they are in some ways peas in a pod even if they end up going popping in different directions. so could you just sort of outline some of these parallels, all the way through? so we they we have more of a sense of that structure and then we can drill down into of those differences. well, i said they were both born both born 1854 into very wealthy families. and they both spent their early years in a both. thanks very much indeed. both he's really good his job at and they both spent their early years within sort of very elevated society but they're both obsessed with their fathers for example i was going to say in the but who is the strongest latin. he's really good at his

so, you know, that's that cabinet meeting was like it was it was like stalin s, you know, in the way it was conducted. we all like him, don't we? we all like him. i mean, that's not a way to conduct a really critical assessment of how to reform the federal government, which is critical for our country. at the very heart, there's a single truth that we do need to figure out a way to bring down our deficits, and doing it this way is comical. it's a circus. it's just a circus. it's not. it's, you know, like to quote, um, logan roy from succession, these are not serious people. >> well, you point out there is something at the core here, right? the need to to reduce the deficit. this is very serious. and yet the way it's being handled as if it's a joke and it's so easy, it's a mockery, right, that the two things just aren't. they don't match to demean it, to mean the seriousness of it and the lives it affects. i mean, musk was, you know, you say at the cabinet meeting he was at mar-a-lago this weekend on stage with trump and his four year old son, one of his four year olds. i know he has

. >> the only thing missing was their hitler, their stalin, their mussolini. this is the leader of the democratic party in the house of representatives, by the way. i didn't see him standing for the mothers that lost their daughters to unvetted joe biden, harris illegals, or a 12 year old young man that beat cancer, or the wife of a hero whose husband died in the line of duty. why wasn't he standing? why wouldn't he stand for the first lady? you know, he would be speaker today if democrats didn't get crushed in last year's election. and now he frankly looks empty and pathetic like his entire party. and to be honest, this past week looked like a cry for help more than anything else. a party in need of a major soul searching. a change, of course, that in all truth, is likely impossible as they cling endlessly to their radicalism and extremism. there was just one bizarre video after another this week, including one inspired by a video game asking americans to choose their fighter. but as the trump team pointed out, america, they already chose their fighter. and g

as stalin's chief of his secret police said. show me the man and i'll show you the crime. we are facing the same terrifying weaponization of justice here. >> i know that you've written to the acting u.s. attorney for dc, ed martin, who seems to be quite a character, about some of what he said, and he is only acting personally, i think that some of these are impeachable offenses from officers united states. we'll see what happens. i don't have much trust in the current republican congress. you met, you were part of, i think, roger wicker. was he in the meeting with you today? >> he was. >> okay. so roger wicker, who's the chair of the armed services committee, mississippi senator, he posted this picture. it was that saying that the deal was a huge step forward in securing mutual prosperity and peace for americans and ukrainians. it was a picture of him shaking hands with zelensky. he then deleted that post afterwards. what was the bipartisan meeting like? >> the bipartisan meeting was extremely positive. we were on one side. he on the other ten of us bipartisan, and he was

for example, in world war ii, there were heated disagreements between franklin roosevelt, joseph stalin and winston churchill, but we didn't see them broadcast on tv. this is a mistake to have it have it broadcast this. this was not the moment that should have been televised. >> it wasn't just a mistake. it was an ambush. i mean, this was a plan. this was a politically calculated ambush from all sides, right? no one would feel comfortable walking into an environment like that from any country, and no one should be treated that way. from the reporter to the greeting to the mocking of his clothes, it was beneath america and beneath the white house to treat a guest in our country, and a leader who is actively engaged in combat, who is right now losing his fellow service members. he's losing his women and children. his cities are being bombed, and we're talking about his clothes and we're talking to him that way. it was victim shaming, which is what trump has been doing to zelenskyy and ukraine since before he got elected. it's unacceptable. it's inappropriate. and it's also undermining not

we tried that in the 20th century and we had a secular state undery joseph stalin and mao. secularism is a necessary liberalism. one of the most secular arab regimes was bashar assad's syria which has been the most dictatorships that was just recently exposed. it really can be a problem in its but it he can be filled by fascism and nationalism with the tyrannical ruler who does whatever he wants like kill people who opposed him. that's why the emphasis in some of the people who say the region is not ready for democracy the people are too religious. i think europeans can say that. america is a -- country from the beginning and precisely actions that have helped religion in america because religion gave a civil societies. >> decentralize. >> the question is theocracy religiously enforcing state to a specific religion or sect is a problem and it's a problem in that part of the world. you mentioned if someone can convert to christianity or issues like that that has to be worked on that is the problem but it doesn't mean they have ruled it out. they could be a dictatorships and

and you actually had fdr thinking he was winning joseph stalin over with a charm offensive.ill was left on the outside. you could again, we've talked about it before, but we can talk about jfk and his just his, his, his, his disastrous summit in vienna with khrushchev thinking that he could charm khrushchev and he just again, it was an international embarrassment. we can talk about george w bush saying he looked into the eyes of vladimir putin and saw his soul. a couple of years later, it was vladimir putin, i think it was at the munich security conference is basically declaring war on the west. a couple of years later, he invaded georgia. we were weak. we were suckers. we did nothing. in 2012, you had barack obama telling medvedev, hey, got to get elected. after i get elected, then we can do more things. talking about the reset with russia two years later, an invasion of ukraine. we were the weak ones. we were the suckers. then the invasion of crimea, then commercial aircrafts getting shot out of the sky for some reason, time and time again, american presidents think they c

following stalin's death, in 1953, cruise ships wanted to be premier, and he wanted to get ukraine tort him. he gifted the donbas and crimea to ukraine. following the fall of the ussr, in 1995, the united states and russia provided -- agreed to provide security to ukraine, but they would move their nuclear weapons back to russia. they did that within a year. donbas and crimea is largely occupied or populated by russians. putin believes that the 270-year history is more important than the 70 year since 1953, and that donbas and ukraine -- and crimea should revert back to russia. that's the fundamental reason for the war. thank you. host: peter in new hampshire. nancy, myrtle beach, south carolina, line for democrats. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i want to address quickly one thing to a previous caller who said you need to watch the whole entire video. well, i watch the whole entire video. this was absolutely in ambush, with the russian media, they are telling lies. it was embarrassing and appalling what i saw on the world stage. trump and jd trying

putin is now the new stalin.tudies or teaches history knows that the first lesson is those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them. i want every caller out there to understand. my recently deceased german octogenarian mother is rolling in her grave right now while this president who i believe is compromised, i believe he has been compromised since the kgb followed him in 1989 to the miss universe pageant. knowing people who say he is not compromised are the billionaires in moscow. i believe that they have dirt on him and dirt on others like lindsey graham and marco rubio. it is a government of coercion. he is being coerced by moscow and he is coercing his people in america and it is having a detriment mental effect on all of us. host: timothy, i'm going to get in some other voices. russ, michigan, what is on your mind? caller: i have something i would like to say. when putin started all of this -- first of all, way back when, ukraine was stealing oil from russia on the pipeline. t

following stalin's death, in 1953, cruise ships wanted to be premier, and he wanted to get ukraine toport him. he gifted the donbas and crimea to ukraine. following the fall of the ussr, in 1995, the united states and russia provided -- agreed to provide security to ukraine, but they would move their nuclear weapons back to russia. they did that within a year. donbas and crimea is largely occupied or populated by russians. putin believes that the 270-year history is more important than the 70 year since 1953, and that donbas and ukraine -- and crimea should revert back to russia. that's the fundamental reason for the war. thank you. host: peter in new hampshire. nancy, myrtle beach, south carolina, line for democrats. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i want to address quickly one thing to a previous caller who said you need to watch the whole entire video. well, i watch the whole entire video. this was absolutely in ambush, with the russian media, they are telling lies. it was embarrassing and appalling what i saw on the world stage. trump and jd tryin

in the middle of winter, on the steps of europe where 16 million people were killed by hitler and stalin web my mother was -- when my mother was born in warsaw, a polish jew in 1938, the year before hitler invaded poland, and we've turned off their intelligence? they're killing more russians there every month than they were six months ago. this is a catastrophe. mr. president. so, the other night, when we had the budget reconciliation, i had a request for an amendment that simply would have said that it was the sense of the senate that russia invaded ukraine, that russia had started this war. i wanted to ask my colleagues just the basic question, can we agree that russia started the war in ukraine. that seems like a shocking question to ask. i hope every schoolchild in america knows that that's true. yet the president of the united states has said that ukraine started this war. and there are people around this city these days who are suggesting that russia didn't start the war, that ukraine started the war. and i'm not even saying, i'm not even talking about people like the new head of i

this is the country that pushed back stalin in 47, that kept western europe free. country that liberated eastern europe by being stubborn during the cold war. there are statues, statues of ronald reagan across eastern europe. when american troops went to poland, mika's brother was the ambassador there. polish people came out into the streets weeping and saying, never again. a country that had been put through the meat grinder by the germans and then the soviets. never again. we were the guarantors of freedom. that is a story, as joan didion would say, that we tell ourselves. so we sleep at night, and it's a story we believe that seemed to disappear last friday. that story seemed to be ripped out of the american cannon on friday. >> stand up. >> unless we stand up. >> now and i and i think if you cede all politics and all all rhetoric and all strength to the almighty president of the united states, then the reality and the darkness you're describing will come. >> editor of. >> the new yorker david. >> remnick. >> thank you very. >> much for coming on again this morn

part because countries of the free world, time and time again underestimated whether it was joseph stalinna, with jfk. we can talk about, of course, george w bush and then the invasion of georgia by putin in 2008. we can talk about barack obama and then the invasion of crimea, the invasion of ukraine, the shooting down of commercial aircraft. we can talk about syria, putin going in and invading syria, taking russian troops into syria in 2015. time and time again, when you underestimate russian leaders, they do not respect you. they do not respect weakness. as ronald reagan said time and again, they only respect strength. that's why he always talked about peace through strength. that's right. that's right. former secretary of homeland security. in the obama administration. jay johnson, thanks, as always for being here. we appreciate it. still ahead on morning joe, president trump. praises elon musk and those sweeping cuts being made by. >> his. >> doge team. but we'll have a fact check on the comments there. that's next on morning joe. >> so which would you recommend? >> do you like brown?

. >> well, for stalin. >> well, for stalin. >> yeah, i don't even.different on some people on this. i don't even mind if farage controls it. if you promote talent, you can, you know, a good ceo promotes talent and let them flourish. he still runs it. so. but that's the problem. if you're not gonna allow someone like rupert lowe through, who many of us felt was speaking for us, then it's a massive problem. so yeah, they will lose my vote if they lose rupert lowe. >> and i don't think anybody would have noticed it would have passed without comment. you know, rupert lowe saying, you know, rupert lowe saying, you know, nigel farage, you know, is this sort of obvious truth that nigel farage is this figurehead, this totem for reform. so, yeah. >> he's not a figurehead. he owns the thing. he is the company. >> i think he's been passed to sort of to the. >> well. well, farage and yousef are still the main two owners, as far as i understand. so. and they changed the name of the company, i don't know. some people have questioned that. >> i have heard that it's

. >> well, for stalin. >> well, for stalin. >> yeah, i don't even.different on some people on this. i don't even mind if farage controls it. if you promote talent, you can, you know, a good ceo promotes talent and let them flourish. he still runs it. so. but that's the problem. if you're not gonna allow someone like rupert lowe through, who many of us felt was speaking for us, then it's a massive problem. so yeah, they will lose my vote if they lose rupert lowe. >> and i don't think anybody would have noticed it would have passed without comment. you know, rupert lowe saying, you know, rupert lowe saying, you know, nigel farage, you know, is this sort of obvious truth that nigel farage is this figurehead, this totem for reform. so, yeah. >> he's not a figurehead. he owns the thing. he is the company. >> i think he's been passed to sort of to the. >> well. well, farage and yousef are still the main two owners, as far as i understand. so. and they changed the name of the company, i don't know. some people have questioned that. >> i have heard that it's

skanderbeg square, for example, once home to statues of enver hoxha and joseph stalin, has now had thealkans. people couldn't travel abroad, they weren't allowed to drive cars, and they were banned from going into certain parts of the capital city. during communist times, albania became the first country in the world to totally ban religion, leading to countless mosques and churches being closed. but now they've reopened and are thriving again. to find out a little more about albania's transformation, i'm meeting up with eni koco... hello! ..who grew up under hoxha. pleasure to meet you. so why did you want to meet right here? because we are standing right in front of the house where our dictator, enver hoxha, spent most of his lifetime. so did hoxha run the country from this house? we can say yes. together with his mates. we had all the government leaders living here and all the party leaders. we were not allowed to walk in this area. it was totally closed. so in 1990, when we started to have all the, you know, the uprising of albanians and we have the civil... kind of the civil war h