well, we now welcome the founder of conservative home and reform uk spokesman tim montgomerie. >> notpokesman, not a spokesman. >> okay. all right. well, it's none of your words are on record tonight. interesting interesting look. so this this is a disaster, isn't it.7 this is an absolute disaster. it's playing out so publicly. i know many of the people watching at home will be supportive of reform. uk will be supportive of reform. uk will be going, what in the hell is going on.7 >> well, look, i'm not going to pretend it's good news. is it a disaster? is it a crisis? well, time will tell. i think there are two issues. one is the individual allegations that have been made against rupert lowe, and i don't think any of us here can know the truth of those. and i think it's important that this independent investigation runs its course. but i think whatever now is the outcome of that investigation, it's clear that there is a fundamental breakdown in relationship between rupert lowe and nigel farage. this is not going to be mended, and i don't know everything about it. but nigel farage is a