since donald trump one election, the, the, the phrase that we've had so often in europe is europe united. and the, the aim of this summit today is to discuss, i think, defend spending across europe using rules on budgets. so that countries can, can do that. but really what we're going to see is we're going to see all our shots that representing jeremy at this meeting, the chance of germany. but really behind the scenes, we've also seen lots of unofficial meetings with features match the man who is somewhat the shuttle trans law. he won the elections just over a week ago and we've seen a very unusual sight. and that is human brussels. over the last few hours, meeting mock route to the head of mitchell. and it was a fun the line at the defense head of, of the european commission and senior leaders really bump unofficially. i'm behind the scenes and, and his message and his, his whole election campaign was about really delivering gemini, a, to a leadership role in europe. and in the last few hours, he and letting you know, he and i'm from mazda of plans to, to lucian dead rooms here in germ

been hosting european leaders here in london to work together for the security of the united kingdom, ukraine and europe as a whole. we've agreed that the u.k., france and others will work with ukraine on a plan to stop the fighting. then we'll discuss that plan with the united states. and take it forward together. the purpose of today's meeting was to unite our partners around this effort, to strengthen ukraine and to support a just and enduring peace for the good of all of us. our starting point must be to put ukraine in the strongest possible position now so that they can negotiate from a position of strength and we are doubling down in our support. yesterday evening, the u.k. signed a $2.2 billion pound loan to provide more military aid to ukraine, backed not by the british taxpayer, but by the profits from frozen russian assets. and today i'm announcing a new deal which allows ukraine to use $1.6 billion pounds of u.k. export finance to buy more than 5,000 air defense missiles. which will be made in belfast, creating jobs in our brilliant defense sector. this will be vital for protecting critical i

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ukraine, in europe, and certainly not in the united i want stability in the united kingdom. there is last three years, what's happened in ukraine has had a massive impact on many working people instability in our economy caused by that conflict so we are not unaffected by it. defence depends on the defence and security of europe. british people is my number one duty and responsibility and i thank you. chris at the bbc. between president trump and zelensky, do you feel a greater personal responsibility alongside president macron and it? 0n the question of responsibility can i do think the united kingdom should step up and lead. we have done that historically as a nation and we need to do it again. moving forward on this. countries have indicated today that they want to be part of bet we hat-re beerr able to move that forward. we will stay in the position we are in and here. and it is intended to preserve the peace and it is intended to ensure that we stay in lockstep with the united states, which is my strongly held belief the best way to defence of the united kingdom. inaudible a num

fighting for his country's sovereignty for three years, to tooth and nail, with help from the united states, from europe, from 50 countries. we have we, the united states had brought together. and this was a watershed moment. i think it will be a before and after sort of day that we talk about. and that meeting in the oval was was definitely a significant departure from the leadership. >> oh, listen, it's something many people around the world are not going to forget. but caroline, ukraine will almost certainly keep fighting regardless of u.s. support. last week, president trump implied that kyiv would fall in three weeks if europe didn't sign off on terms for the country's surrender. do you have a sense of what the current state is on the battlefield? is russia winning the war, as trump claims? >> i would not characterize russia as winning the war, and i have always thought the ukrainian armed forces and president zelenskyy are best positioned to describe what's happening on the battlefield. my own assessment is that russia is making grinding, incremental progress in the east, retaking some territory i

agrees that the cost and burden of securing the peace must be borne by the nations of europe, not alone by the united states. and europe must take that central role in assuring long-term security of ukraine which they want to do. and that's not a very big step. a big step is what's going to happen over the next few weeks. the united states has put up farmer aid for ukraine than any other nation, hundred of billions of dollars. we've spent blood pressure $300 billion. europe has spent about $100 billion. that's a big difference and at some point we should equalize. but all hopefully won't have to worry about that. we have other things happening that maybe take that out of the rem of necessity. while we've given vast amounts of military aid and money in the form of grants, much of europe's contribution has been economic relief structured as loans. for which they'll be repaid like the europeans i believe that taxpayers in the united states also deserve to recoup the colossal amounts of money that we sent. the previous administration never even thought of that. they didn't think of a lot of things like w

it looks that the united states, which is my strongly help belief, the best way to pursue a provide security defense in europe and security defense in united kingdom, between defense in europe and security, defense me not to kingdom well, a number educated today that they wanted to be part of the move forward looking element i will relevant speak for them in terms of exactly how they will make that known and what the contribution will be. i'll leave that to that, but i'm pleased that a number did indicate that they do think that this is a plan was backing up. they won't play a part in it. and so we've made real progress to stay in the course of the last few hours. thank you, alex, a lucky permanence to alex like him to play that i'm sorry. and on your curtis and putting, do you think it can be postage by countries to on just in europe as an entity. we've got kind of to a representative today? do you think you don't get countries beyond europe to join the coalition of the willing essentially make it a mess the trans atlantic partnership? and um, also in terms of your plan to present back to don't have trump, h

the reason this is appearing is because the united states and western europe. when the soviet union broke up, they had the third largest arsenal in the planet. that is a big card. trump talked about five bases -- aces. forgiving up that, the west and the united states ended up taking the nuclear weapons agreed to protect and ensure ukraine's borders at their then current state in the early 90's. host: talking about the minsk agreement. take me to today and what america's role should be? caller: the united states, they said they would agree with that, they didn't. you had the one that zelenskyy talks about himself. why should ukraine agree to anything unless they put boots on the ground and have something to lose? right now, the only people losing is ukraine. all these things the west is doing. host: when you say they should have boots on the ground who are you referring to, the united states? caller: i know that will not happen, everybody part of that minsk agreement. we could protect ukraine and their border. i'm a black man in d.c., you know who i voted for. r

the flaw in all of nato as far as russia was concerned it was backstopped by the united states because at this point europe has not been contributing, as we know, to the extent to which it was required, so this comes down to a single point of failure in nato this point, which is united states willingness and from then on putin is trying to test whether the united states is willing to defend any of its allies because it finds out quickly, certainly not georgia and later certainly not ukraine benjamin: did you have something? constanze: i wanted to point out , since fiona mentioned her version, there has been in my view and intellectually academic debate about nuclear weapons, just in case the americans for one reason or another -- into asia. that academic debate has just gone out. comments by the incoming chancellor before the election saying that we -- in response to the speeches by secretary of defense hegseth at nato and in brussels and by vice president vance in munich, that europe was going to have to develop its own nuclear deterrent and that would mean the french and british deterrent, which is not e

but ukraine can still survive and it'll be tough, but it can still survive with the support of a united europe. >> so, general, let me ask you, you said that zelenskyy, all he had to do was be silent and have this conversation in private. but we saw when president macron was at the white house when with president trump, he corrected him when he said that europe was going to be repaid. we saw that the uk prime minister corrected the president when he said that europe was getting its money back. when vice president vance said that this is diplomacy and and president zelenskyy said rightfully we had a deal on a cease fire. he didn't keep it. we had a deal on exchange for prisoners. he didn't keep it. you say that was out of line, even considering the context of what we've seen this week from other european leaders who were allowed to correct the president when he was wrong. >> mhm. victor. >> what he. >> said was correct. but it's when you say. >> it. >> um, you say it in private. you don't embarrass or even attempt to embarrass. >> the president. >> or vice president like that. um, again, it he

they will destroy europe and the united states of america if we allow them to fester. thank god we have a president who believes in free speech. the danger is still there. of the danger is there in europe and in the unites states of america. we have to ask ourselves the questions as leaders, are we willing to defend people even if we disagree with what they say. if you are not willing to do that i don't think you are fit to lead europe or the united states of america. >> sean: you are running in fear of your own voters there's nothing american can do for you. >> there's nothing we can do for you if you are terrified of your own people. you see this every single day. what are some of the biggest drivers of violence in these european societies? it's mass migration, it's people who haven't assimilated into the european societies who are driving cars into christmas festivals, killing tons of innocent people and very often the european response to that is not to say well maybe we should get control of our own borders. the response is to try to silence and shut down their own

but europe realizes that it cannot replace the united states for ukraine. ix months in this war. >> and europe. >> can't move that fast. it has galvanized the europeans. it has galvanized keir starmer to try to lead the europeans in this effort and act as a negotiator, the kind of caught between, you know, post-brexit britain and the united states. actually. >> keir starmer. >> finds himself in an enviable position in some ways because he can be that peace broker between the two sides. so let's. see how much the europeans can actually do. you know, europe's problem really. >> is. >> that it's not a country, it's a continent. and they have very different points of view, as we're already starting to see emerge out of this weekend. but but what. donald trump has done has rallied british public opinion behind keir starmer in a way that i found remarkable this weekend. and seeing keir starmer go out of his way to welcome and praise vladimir zelensky, walk out of downing street, point to the fact that there were crowds in the streets. i don't know if donald trump

so important for ukraine, so important for europe, and so important for the united kingdom.so i'm much looking forward to our discussions here this afternoon. thank you for making the time to come. with pleasure. thank you, keir. mr prime minister, happy to be here. and really, i saw a lot of people and i want to thank you, people of the united kingdom. such big support from the very beginning of this war. thank you, your team. and i'm very happy that his majesty the king accepted my meeting tomorrow. and i'm thankful that you organised such a great summit for tomorrow. and we are very happy in ukraine that we have such strategic partners. we signed with you historic documents... 100 year agreement. yeah, we have only with you such documents with united kingdom. so we are happy and we count on your support and really, really, really happy that we have such, such partners and such friends. fantastic. thank you. thank you. _ and then the men met in private for around an and then the men met in private foraround an hour and then the men met in private for around an hour before

it is united states and western europe.raine came before, they have the third largest planet. that is a big part against russia then giving up their nuclear stockpile and agreed to protect and ensure that might. >> take me to today. >> agreement zelenskyy talks about himself. why should ukraine agree to anything? >> who are you referring to? >> everyone was under that agreement, ukraine and you know who i got it for they gave up their card the united states and other countries. >> republican. good morning. >> everybody needs to think back couple of years ago for whatever and left with nothing. a phenomenal negotiator and i think he realizes the dictator but is not going to try to get a peace deal. critical it is not going to do it. i watched the news conference the times. we will take care of security so obviously ukraine has security just have to trust trump. they don't realize it looks that. >> i think he handled it beautifully. i think zelenskyy was terrible. and it's crazy. how could they want to that thank you very muc

between the united states and europe in terms of its view of this war. right. and in effect, the united states is taking almost taking russia's side, certainly echoing a lot of the points that russia makes. you heard russian officials over the weekend talk about how much u.s. foreign policy has been recalibrated to their liking. they're delighted. you saw after that meeting on friday, dmitry medvedev, the one time caretaker president who is an advisor to president putin, say that finally, the insulin pig that would be zelensky got what he deserved in the oval office. and then you see the europeans rallying to ukraine's side saying, we support zelensky, we support ukraine. and they did so not only with social media, but with this meeting in london and promises to increase aid and to find their own path forward. they're not breaking off the united states entirely. you heard starmer, the british prime minister, say, look, we still believe that u.s. support is critical, but they obviously are not counting on it anymore. they now obviously believe that europe is goin

d, u and europe is united, and it's not actually a collection of too many cooks and a broken dysfunctional kitchen which relies totally on us economic power in the world post world war to order. they don't want so they don't have a plan. they knows the landscape can't wait on the battlefield. they're not willing to commit troops. they don't have any troops. they gave up their troops after the cold war. their troops are doing like flash mob dances on twitter and tick tock. it's ridiculous. so ultimately, the lensky will either have to apologize to donald trump and come back to the table at, or he will no longer be leader, and he'll be living next door to netanyahu's, son at a luxury condo in miami. and this is all the fault. i mean, this is something that the us and the europeans knew what happened. they saw ukrainian men, especially lower class working class men as nothing but me to throw into the slaughterhouse to extend russia. going back to that 2019 ran court paper, which really laid out a blueprint for this war that the, by the administration wanted ukraine to fight. that paper contai

when europe are ready, they need the united states. we will not have strong from the europeans because they don't want to divide the u.s. and europes. this is very important to speak about. air defense, really, we have big systems. and we need to provide this. we need it very much. otherwise, putin will never stop and he'll go further and further. he hate us, you know? it's not about me. he hates ukrainians. he think that is we're not a nation. he thinks and he shares maybe with your team also, i don't know. but he always said that there is no such country, such nation, such language and such life like ukrainian. no. he really doesn't respect all the ukrainians and he want destroy us. you're right, mr. president. it's 2%. this document, maybe other documents it's a very good start but it will not enough to stop this person. >> mr. president under these certainties. >> this is the rule of the war. during all the history, this is the rule of the war. who began those days. he has to pay all money for -- he has to pay. of course, some russi

food fuel and medicine from entering the stream. running around you crying latest from across europe unites in london to discuss waste and the war with russia. unemployment crisis and then a go more than 300000 people compete for a limited number of spanish workspaces. lots explosive way to see all winter as.

particularly each um the views that, um, it is important for the security of defense of italy, of europe in the united kingdom. that we work as we've always what closely aligned with the united states, federal for about 10 days prior to as well. that was british prime minister care stomach the a speaking in london of to anything with of a you leaders. he started by talking about this being a time of across roads in history. it is now not the time for more tools. it is a time to accede in out lines, a broad uh, full stage plan to support you crying and try and find the lasting piece in the region. he also mentioned that person will use $2000000000.00 to supply $5000.00 a defense ms. solve for ukraine that will be manufactured in belfast, so you will so talk to briefly about boots on the ground and planes in the year. you must do the heavy lifting, but to the us is in as a reliable ally, and it must have the backing of donald trump's administration and the united states. the full point plan that the stomach outlines basically goes as follows. it was 1st of all to keep the money flowing it to ukraine in

what unites us with europe is shared values including free speech. is americans are threatened by it we will need to take action on it. pres. trump: it is a very important question. v.p. vance: we spoke about this in detail at lunch yesterday. i know that secretary of commerce let nick followed up. this is really important. we believe americans have the right to speak their mind even if we disagree with them. they have the right to speak their mind in the public square which is often online. we will defend that right in terms of american companies and citizens, vigorously if we have to. under the president's leadership you will find common ground with our friends and the u.k. but it remains to be seen. the principle that will guide us is we believe in free speech in this country. >> is there another oil and gas component? pres. trump: a little bit. we will see. we are not looking for that. we have a lot. we have more than anyone in the world. it affects. >> to purchase u.s. lng as part of the deal? pres. trump: no. we don't need that. >> you just men

target and first prey, and you can move on because he sees what a deep division is between united states and europe. and this is bad. we need to heal this division right now. militarily, how long do you think you could last without the us support? i'm not a military expert. i mean, we will fight. we fought in 2022, three years ago without any support at the beginning and we stopped russians. but it's three years after. we have a lot... we lost a lot of people. we are very tired and exhausted. i mean, we will fight. we don't have any other option because in other case, russians will kill people like me. they will take our sons to go and to kill people like you. that's what they will do. but so we will continue to fight. but the question is the life of tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people, and what will be the result of this fight? sir lawrence freedman is a professor of war studies at king's college london. here is his assessment of the repsonse from president zelensky following his spat with donald trump and jd vance. i think zelensky has done what he can do. i don't think in the circ

europe and canada, and the host, sir keir starmer, guarantee would look like. mr president, can you get things back on track? and then discuss it with the united states. n europe come together and come up with a plan? zelensky of ukraine. would you be willing to apologise to donald trump, mr president? the prime minister and 18 others trying to pull defence spending massively. it's basically turning ukraine into a steel porcupine - and resilient country. about stepping up to the plate? absolutely. of underinvestment, it is now. of utmost importance to step up the defence investment- fora prolonged period of time. and what of the north atlantic defence alliance, nato, america is european countries stepping up, first of all, to make sure that ukraine has got what it needs to stay in the fight to help with security guarantees for the moment when there is no ceasefire yet, but we have to prepare for that moment. in ukraine, are now working up their plans. the uk is prepared to back this with boots on the ground and planes in the air, together with others. must have strong us backing. meeting the king. after his meeting with the king, president zelensky lau

what i see is the united states pulling away from europe, uh, becoming closer to most go is sent to europe in lee does absolutely reading that, working out what to do, but what they do knows. so without the united states support supposed that they've relied on for decades since the end of the cold war with nature, with the pulling us troops on the european continent, they know that they simply do not have the defense capacity that they need in order to protect themselves, it's something to the french person to me. i know my call as spoken about for many years. he's often talks about the frankfurt, the european union needs to step up to his defense capabilities needs to co ordinate needs to be able to protect himself. but now this is a real reality to european nations, not for the going to be talking about in brussels on thursday. how can they do that? realistically speaking, it would take many years for them to have the sort of defense capability that they have at the moment with uh, the united states, offering them any sort of security umbrella. but if the us was to step away some more, t

all right, in your view, how united it was, this show of stress today. do you think europe is all the same page on things as well as we definitely know, at least hungry i'm slovak. you are definitely not on the same page. and even if you're speaking about the bronson's great britain, they would only be able to send before. so $40000.00 barrels onto ukraine, and then ukraine. we are talking about the war. we're both of them army, so standing against each other, which number more than $1000000.00 man. so $40000.00 mine are simply, i'm ridiculous and even those for the falls man. i'm not able to fight that without the support of the united states of america. so that for, of course, the codes be so desperate that they're really sending this very files and then box these for the files, and then also won't change the costs of this warrants. the end of this wall will be a total into mitigating the feet for the ukrainian resume around. so let's do and um is well monitoring partners in brussels and through europe. and the only thing that europe needs to do right now is um pro long t

the united states, ukraine, europe, to bring ukraine to a durable peace.o we clearly discussed this. is peace. 50 we clearly discussed this. , ., peace. 50 we clearly discussed this. , . ., , this. is that it was unfortunate. - this. is that it was| unfortunate. what this. is that it was - unfortunate. what did this. is that it was _ unfortunate. what did zelensky say about it?— say about it? welcome of course. — say about it? welcome of course. i _ say about it? welcome of course, i am _ say about it? welcome of course, i am not - say about it? welcome of course, i am not at - say about it? welcome of| course, i am not at liberty say about it? welcome of. course, i am not at liberty to disclose what we discussed but what i clearly told him is that we really have to respect what president trump has done so far for ukraine. he was the one, 2019, who provided the javelin is. these are lethal weapons. and without the javelins, in 2022, when the full scale attack started, ukraine would have been nowhere. 0f attack started, ukraine would have been nowhere. of c

and if the united states does not respond to aggression in europe, the aggression will come to the united states. okay. so this was the argument he made and he bolstered it with claims that, okay, airplanes can fly from europe to the americas, drop bombs. he was exaggerating things. he bolstered it with what turns out to have been a forged map, showing that the german the nazis had already divided up in their minds the nazi ruled zones of the western hemisphere. and he presents map in a speech that he gives and it turns out that it was manufactured by the british government as part of their propaganda. so but but but this is the argument he makes. but basically the argument he made was it was essentially the argument that woodrow had made and that is that aggression against, democracy anywhere threatens democracy everywhere. and especially by 1941, american leaders were regretting that they had not encouraged the european leaders to stand up to hitler at. there was a conference in munich in 1938, and it had to do with hitler's demands. a part of czechoslovakia. and the after the fact thin

they want to piece unit who demands a continuation of the gravy train with that war. europe, friendship, president, my crohn is running around with some ideas just like british p. m. cure storm or just they say that so many thousands of peacekeepers are being trained and they will provide them with air cover. that is arrogance. this plan to introduce peacekeepers into ukraine is a continuation of the incitement of the care of regina to wage a war against us. on top of star wars plans to send the actual troops to ukraine. this so called coalition of the willing is also apparently signed another loan to ukraine over $2000000000.00 worth 5 according to storm or is own words. not everyone in the west is on board with this? well, the tradition of the willing, yes, a number of computers indicated today that they want to be part of the plan that we are developing a lead for them to make their own statements about exactly how they want to make that contribution. but we've, i've been able to move that forward. i accept without criticism and with respect of the position of other countries that ma

then of course, united states like the strongest partner of the ukraine and of course europe. i think europe is very porn i want to speak about this with the president. yes, europe is very porn to us. all europeans really recognize that we are defending lives. and they have real life. and our people are diagnosis. that's why they helped us. and also, it's about the nature between like the president said you have big nice ocean. yes, between us. but if we will not stay, russia will go to baltic and poland by the way. it's understandable for them. because they've been -- they've been the u.s. side. they've been one of their republic of ussr. it's a fact. if you will not stay, you will fight. your american soldiers -- it doesn't matter. do you have auction or not? your soldiers will fight. >> will you be willing to admit that ukraine -- >> it was my question. sorry. president trump: i don't want to talk about odessa. i want to talk about making a deal, getting peace. we don't have to talk about odessa. but a lot of cities have been destroyed. a lot of cities that are not recogniz

day for american national security interests because if ukraine loses, the russian threat to europe and the unitedthat much greater and what i'm puzzling to try to figure out is if you go back and look at the oval office session, why did the vice president, j.d. vance, almost intentionally it looked provoke a fight? it looked like the conversation was going fairly well and then mr. vance jumped in and really seemed to be pushing for a fight. i don't understand that. >> you know diplomacy, spending two years as the u.s. ambassador to ukraine. what might normal people not know about the relationship that is important to consider right now? >> well, i think the relationship between zelenskyy and trump has always been somewhat fraught because if you go back to the first term of mr. trump, his first impeachment trial was the result of a phone call in which he tried to extort zelenskyy and i think he still bears antipathy towards zelenskyy because of that. >> you spent a couple years at the u.s. embassy in moscow. does that change your perspective here at all or what can you glean to us on the relations

the united states and europe have a shared interest in containing vladimir putin and his efforts to rewrite borders in europe. so we are we approach it differently. there's a lot of emotions in the air right now, but we've got to focus on what our interests are and getting common outcomes together. >> all right. kurt volker, thank you very much for your time. we really appreciate it. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> breaking news tonight. israel says it has agreed to extend its cease fire deal with hamas. that deal paused fighting in gaza for weeks as dozens of israeli hostages and then hundreds of palestinian prisoners were released. among the hostages freed. israeli american sigi chin. the israeli prime minister's office saying the u.s. made the proposal for that extension. it will extend the current cease fire, which would have expired tonight through the end of march, including the muslim holy month of ramadan and the jewish holiday of passover. the agreement would also see more hostage releases. the israeli prime minister office says hamas has not signed off on that proposal just yet. new

, with the even a grotesquely overblown language about russian genocide. russians, threats to europe, united cetera, et cetera. and, you know, it's easy enough the from the to reverse that because you know, he wasn't in power. it will be easy, i think, in a couple of years, if we see a dependent governments in front of for dependent government to reverse it. but it's quite difficult to know for governments which are being screaming on top of that voices. you know about how, you know, you train must, when we must back ukraine for as long as you takes of full then, you know, basically to turn on the dime and change that to language, which sooner or later they're going to have to do. but it's, it is difficult, except if you have an elite that is so out of touch with your own population, all of these lead is horribly unpopular, including stories only just been elected in, in britain. and you have no real education in diplomacy. i don't know, none of the norms of diplomacy built up over hundreds of years in uh, in western europe. uh, being applied whatsoever. it makes it dangerous for most good,

their economy is the same size as the united states and china. europeas the capacity took, i think step up and stepped in, should the united states step away from ukraine. the issue is they can't do it instantly. they have to wear pope -- ramp up their industrial production and have a change in direction. i hope if we pull away from ukraine, we do it rather slowly. the europeans can do more. what we are waiting to see is what comes of all of these meetings and things that are happening in brussels. did they advocate more funding from the e.u. level. there is a lot of play. host: our guest, max bergmann, just mentioned one of his recent pieces that he has written for csis. if you would like to find those or look at more of his work, you can find it at csis.org. let's hear from john in ohio. line for republicans. good morning. caller: if we are just going to focus on this white house meeting, the biggest problem is that the only thing that previous callers and people in the media or democrats and perhaps your guest, they only saw the five or 10 minutes of

europe. it was a danger under joe biden in the united states of america. and look, of course, china is a major threat. it's a major competitor over the next few years, over the next few decades. but i have no doubt that america and europe could take on whatever threats, so long as we're strong internally. that's the biggest risk to our civilization. it's that weakness internally. that's what we have to fix. >> the democratic party now, they want long, protracted wars. the democratic party championing men to play in women's sports. the democratic party putting the rights of illegals over the safety of americans and defending what will be hundreds of trillions of dollars in waste, fraud, abuse, corruption. how does that end for them? >> i think it ends very, very poorly. and the american people are a lot smarter than the democrats give them credit for. you cannot shut up your fellow citizens force biological men to play in sports with girls. which, by the way, is just insulting to the girls. it's actually dangerous. title nine. title nine. it's, you know, som

your client has been fighting russia for 3 years with arms provided laws, the by the united states and europe, the public spots between the presence of them is lensky and us present. donald trump at the white house, i left many ukrainians wondering what happens next child stuff and reports from keith. sunday will ship with the sage below, demand cathedrals, and the ukranian capital built in the mid 19th century. the fresh goes created by all designs from venice. the church was closed with decades on the soviet rule of the 3 years since rush is full scale invasion. people are struggling to come to terms with what's happened in the white house between the president and the leader of the most powerful allies. on the years we had hoped to use towards movement would take place the signing of mutually beneficial agreements in washington. unfortunately, temptation prevailed and instead of p, if we got even more and more this time in the political arena, it's the same story. i deeply appreciate everyone who supported us then and continues to support us now. my husband has been fighting since march 20

their economy is the same size as the united states and china. europe the capacity took, i think step up and stepped in, should the united states step away from ukraine. the issue is they can't do it instantly. they have to wear pope -- ramp up their industrial production and have a change in direction. i hope if we pull away from ukraine, we do it rather slowly. the europeans can do more. what we are waiting to see is what comes of all of these meetings and things that are happening in brussels. did they advocate more funding from the e.u. level. there is a lot of play. host: our guest, max bergmann, just mentioned one of his recent pieces that he has written for csis. if you would like to find those or look at more of his work, you can find it at csis.org. let's hear from john in ohio. line for republicans. good morning. caller: if we are just going to focus on this white house meeting, the biggest problem is that the only thing that previous callers and people in the media or democrats and perhaps your guest, they only saw the five or 10 minutes of t

united states of america. so say thank you, and if you disagree with the president, pick up the phone and call him or call one of our great diplomats. don't go in and media tour around europe. bad, mousing the for as united states. it's insulting, it's insulting to him. it's insulting to me, it's insulting to the american people and by the way, it's stupid. i think president trump is very upset, present zelinski, and i and some case, and rightfully so. look. number one, joe biden had frustrations was the landscape. people shouldn't forget it or a newspaper articles out there about how he cursed adam and a phone call. because zalinski, instead of saying thank you for all your help, is immediately out there messaging what we're not doing or what he's not getting the american taxpayers have unloaded hundreds of billions of dollars into the framing and conflicts. and much of what trump seem to be saying to the ukrainian leader was we want our money back and the mineral deal that was supposed to be signed today was arranged so that roughly $500000000000.00 could be returned to the united states as a result, of the mineral resources and the revenue coming in from them. but that

defense spending by member states, europeans for me to replace over the long term united states contributions to europe and security that include, for example, control and come on equipment, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance. but that could take a decade to more and terms conditions for the us has continued security umbrella, increased defense, expanded to 5 percent of national g. d. b's is deemed unrealistic. but most europe in boston, us a lead us, but face sylvia political opposition at home. if they attempt to slash social was that they worked that money to us defense. the european union is trying to take the initiative to bring the member states together and find a way to fund the real moment. but it runs the risk of being seen is to involved extending its reach by members states, believe defense is the responsibility of national governments. and then there is victor or bon hung, greece prime minister, so many here in brussel, c, as a trojan horse. during rush as bidding inside the e. u. or bond has often tried to block aid for ukraine, but often relented when the time came to exercis

out to you zelensky to fix that spat which needs to be fixed for the interest of the united states, ukraine and europehese sorts of offerings from europe enough to replace the us�*s support, we have heard some threats and reports that the white house might be considering cutting of the military funding that it has been given to ukraine? i cannot rule that out but that would be a very serious mistake by the administration which would undercut in a major way american interests. it could happen but i suspect it won't. you are right, even if these proposals, they are not enough to help provide a security ukraine it needs to prevent future russian aggression if in fact the ceasefire is achieved. that is why the uk, france, they were talking about the need for some backstop for the united states and zelensky was making that point in the oval office and while what zelensky said it was absolutely right, sometimes, you have to make tactical adjustments when your listener are not hearing your argument in the way that you would like. you think that president zelensky will be able to make those adjustments. do yo

europe and leaders plus canada and turkey you. what you k prime minister, cure storm, are called coalition of the willing to present a peace plan to the united states. that's as washington prepares, its own peace talks with moscow. but you pay is prepared to practice with boots on the ground of plains and yet, together with all this, europe must do the heavy lifting, split to support peace in alcohol to noon to succeed. this efforts must have strong us back a clear message to donald trump, who has repeatedly told europe to bear the costs of peace on the continent. urgency have to we are to until that i will present a comprehensive plan. how to read on 0. on the 6 of much when we have i was europe leaving the house of to the but after such a public folder, strong us packing appears far from certain republicans. there are calling for savanski to 1st sign over ukrainian mineral rights and apologize to donald trump. i hope and pray, frankly, the president's landscape will come to his senses, come back to president. trump express gratitude as he should ex, you know, apologize for his behavior there and accept his mental rights deal. because that

another 3 years of war in which the united states and europe continues to for billions of dollars into award and ukraine. is that the alternative? i've asked every foreign minister i meet with. tell me your idea of how this turns out. most don't have a plan, a few have said, well, let's give them another you are fighting a year from now a year later, after another year of death, another year of destruction then may be put in will be ready to negotiate. at that point, that doesn't sound like a good plan to me, and it certainly is not a plan that presidents on board with or as his allies in europe court, zalinski, eli mosque has sent another job from the us asking how many more have to die in the military conflict before the ukrainian leader agrees to make peace while the, and elected official lanes on european shoulders, his own citizens are being hauled by force to the front line. the . it looks like, based on that previous footage, we just saw that so lensky is really been able to put the moves on storm or so much so that the you case prime minister is talking about leading the so cal