than vladimir putin. and that was before the specific news confirmed today that among the projects, trump is explicitly and specifically turning off right now, this week is the program by which the us helps ukraine keep its electric grid up and running, even though russia has repeatedly targeted that electric grid throughout the war. because russia's idea of how it wants to win the unprovoked war it declared on our ally is to make the civilian population, including kids and the elderly and hospital patients and everyone, their best idea for how to prosecute that war is to cause them to freeze to death by bombing the electric grid. in february. so more than any other evident targeting, they have targeted the electric grid that serves the civilian population in ukraine. it is the united states that has helped ukraine masterfully keep the power grid up, despite those repeated onslaughts by russia, until this week, when trump just cut it off. which is good news for someone, right? president dressed up the def

and vladimir putin, who has, you know, his regime has shot down passenger planes. he is someone who has imprisoned and killed political opponents. he is someone who has killed journalists. he will not stop. and vladimir and zelensky's point. zelensky's point tonight in that meeting was simple. he said. we need a strong ironclad security agreement, which is going to mean troops and help, because whether it was the minsk agreement or other ones, putin has violated them. and that was the simple point he was making when j.d. vance claimed he was being disrespectful. it is a point that numerous republicans have made throughout the week, as these european leaders have visited. >> is the bottom line here that russian president vladimir putin basically just wants zelensky out of these talks, away from the negotiating table. >> i mean, putin is a strong man. he's a bully, right? and what they did today and i, i just refuse to count out ukraine, and i refuse to count out the possibility of our country still being involved in peace negotiations, because i know how strongly so

the world by siding with vladimir. >> putin over the. >> american intelligence. >> community. >> which found that. >> russia interfered. >> in the 2016 election. >> to help donald trump. >> they think it's russia. i have president putin. he just said it's not russia. i will say this. i don't see any reason why it would be. >> all the way to today, when donald. trump expressed more. sympathy for putin. >> than he ever has, maybe for. >> anyone publicly. >> let me tell you, putin went through a hell of a lot with me. he went through a phony witch hunt where they used him and russia, russia, russia, russia, the whole thing was a scam. and he had to put up with that. he was being accused of all that stuff. >> donald trump is mad on putin's behalf. >> trump is mad that he. >> failed to extort president. elect zelensky. >> in 2019. >> to stop. >> joe. >> biden from beating. >> him in the 2020. >> presidential race. he's mad congress. impeached him for that. >> he is. >> mad because he can't be like putin. at least not yet. as gary kasparov. >> writes in a. >> new. >> piece, the putin ization

he agrees with vladimir putin.are birds of a feather and here -- he and vladimir putin together are trying to create a world safe for gangsters where ruthless people can thrive and we saw the product of that yesterday -- today in the oval office. am i feeling grief, am i feeling shock? but i just think of shame. it's a moral injury to see the country you love behaving this way. amna: you heard president lawler who would not criticize the president saying they are further away from a deal. you also heard nick schifrin report that there's a fundamental transatlantic break now. is this the realignment? the u.s. is now closer to russia than its european allies? >> undisputedly yes. the fact that the europeans are always looking -- already looking at it as a break. they have to do that. they can't depend on the united states now. what happens to the baltic states? what happens to estonia if russia rolls over their border? what happens to poland? what happens if any of the nato countries are attacked by russia after what

things presidents trump and zelenskyy argued about in the oval office today is whether russia's vladimir putinim putin had broken agreements with ukraine 25 times. mr. trump said putin had never broken an agreement with him. >> maurice: this sunday and six to minutes, republican congressman don bacon of nebraska, a former brigadier general in the air force, tells scott pelley putin is a murderer and a monster and cannot be trusted. that is the "cbs evening news." i'm maurice dubois. >> john: i'm john dickerson. i'll see you again soon on "evening news plus." >> maurice: and we hope to see you right back here on monday. have a great night. >> john: and a great weekend. ♪ ♪ >> john: welcome to cbs evening news plus. i'm john dickerson. it's an oval office, not a

so far there has been no comment from vladimir putin about what happened in the white house. esident putin does not need to say anything about what happened in the white house, not right now. he can't afford to allow events to play out. donald trump a little earlier said this is going to be great television. you can imagine him sitting in front the television set and enjoying the spectacle of his fiercest enemy, the leader of the country that vladimir putin invaded three years ago, being so publicly rebuked by the president of the united states and the vice president of the united states in front of the world's media. quite astonishing. no comment from vladimir putin, but we have comments from the former russian president who is now the deputy head of the russian security council. he wrote on social media that after what happened, he is calling on america to stop military assistance to ukraine. wouldn't the russians just love that? helena: what do you think this tells us about relations between the united states and russia right now? are we witnessing a shift? steven: a seismi

back in 2019 and even brokered a cease-fire deal at that time, but vladimir putin only went onate that deal. vance said all of this was being disrespectful. >> john: margaret, what are the reverberations of this meeting? in the phone calls you have been making with diplomats, how is this rippling out from that room? >> reporter: it really is rippling out around the world, john. i mean, most immediately, there's about $4 billion worth of military equipment that is set to be shipped to ukraine. does president trump stop that from happening? it could impact the battlefield. but symbolically, there is also major significance to having the president of the united states attack verbally a democracy while defending somebody who is a dictator, vladimir putin, and that could be seen by adversaries around the world as a potential opening point. i've had sources raise concerns that america may not in fact be dedicated to the future of nato. in fact, the e.u.'s top diplomat said publicly, the free world needs a new leader. >> john: all right, margaret brennan in washington. thanks so much,

vladimir putin pots pans and tf on russian been well into vladimir putin pots pans and tf on russiankesperson said that she was russian foreign ministry spokesperson slap that she was russian foreign ministry spokesperson slap zelensky nas russian foreign ministry spokesperson slap zelensky for vance did not slap zelensky for his behaviour, and the ex—president said his behaviour, and the ex—; he.ident said his behaviour, and the ex—; he is ent said his behaviour, and the ex—; he is very aid his behaviour, and the ex—; he is very happy that that he is very happy that someone finally gave proper dressing get down to zelensky, pig- whom he called an insolent pig. you can definitely tell that this development is very welcomed in russia. i think vladimir putin, even in his wildest dreams could not imagine the scenes we saw in the white house. i think is imagine the scenes we saw in the white to use. i think is imagine the scenes we saw in the white to notice think is imagine the scenes we saw in the white to notice that is important to notice that vladimir putin himself has yet to say so

vladimir putin this week made a speech in front of russia's fsp, the security service and he said thatnew line that donald trump took, and his relationship with russia, definitely shows promise. but not more than that. we sell those meetings in saudi arabia. we saw talks in istanbul. there are talks of how russia and the us are going to restore a number of embassy personnel in america and russia. this is a very important, of course. this is a development that would be difficult to imagine had joe biden, for instance, stayed in the white house. and it is a completely different kind of rhetoric but so far i think it is very important to divide what we hear, what those leaders are talking about and what is actually happening. so far, nothing substantial, you know, has happened yet. there were still raging and still going on. russia and ukraine are still fighting, as we are speaking, right the us is still sending this military aid to ukraine. us are still involved in training ukrainian soldiers, sharing intelligence which has been crucial for ukraine being able to fight russia. so it is ab

to do to restart talks, and the president says he has to want peace and not simply talk about vladimir putinmedia earlie, zelenskyy said he does want peace for ukraine and he thanked the president for the visit. now he looks to european leaders who are meeting this weekend to discuss next steps forward. this comes after the french president and ukrainian prime minister were here at the white house this week, and said that europe would step up to contribute more to ukraine's defense. john? >> john: erica brown at the white house. thank you, erica. for more about what this means for the future of u.s. ukrainian relations, we turn to charles kupchan, senior fellow at the council on foreign relations, and joins us in washington. charles, it's good to be with you again. your immediate thoughts about the ramifications of this oval office meeting today? >> well, it was just completely bizarre for the american president and vice president to dress down the leader of a democratic ukraine that is fighting for its life against russia. i've never seen anything like it. i think vance and president trump

something else, vladimir putin. that's what happened. >> or alternately. >> another way that today looks to me on its face is that it was a planned ambush to effectively jettison ukraine and complete the switching of sides of the us, in line with, again, donald trump and jd vance. russia first views. they like russia. they want the us to be more like russia. they like vladimir putin. they don't like democratic countries. predictably, donald trump's republican toady is practically tripped over themselves to be the first to lavish praise on this morning's embarrassing display. secretary of state marco rubio, who was rather quiet during much of the meeting, sitting there sullenly on the couch, found his voice on social media, posting thank you for standing up for america in a way that no president has ever had the courage to do before. thank you for putting america first. america is with you. meanwhile, republican senator lindsey graham of south carolina, who earlier this month and i mean, like a few weeks ago on tape

office into a. >> propaganda machine. >> for vladimir putin, one of the world's worst dictators and an adversary of the united. states who consistently tries to undermine our democracy and attack americans. truly appalling., as he uses the same words as putin to describe this war, the same justifications as putin to describe this war. >> can trump still be a fair, reliable, trustworthy? peacemaker for ukraine in this war, or are you seeing his? interests more aligned with putin's as relate to ukraine? >> well, donald. >> trump is certainly not reliable and trustworthy in any sense. he wasn't reliable and trustworthy. >> as. >> a business partner when he was in real estate, because he declared bankruptcy six times and was widely known to. walk away from contracts and to shun his business partners. and that is an mo that has continued his entire life. and we see that playing out. in stunning fashion in the oval office today. >> my hope. >> is that vladimir or vladimir putin doesn't continue to take advantage of this opportunity, although he probably will. i mean, that's what he does and

so no comment from vladimir putin.have had comment from dmitry medvedev, the former russian president, who is now deputy head of the russian security council. he, on social media, wrote that after what had happened, he hopes that america will stop military assistance to ukraine. of course, that's what the russians would love to happen. it's been an incredible two weeks or so, which has turned everything on its head. it began with the putin—trump telephone call on february 12th, the start of us—russian talks, with no concessions coming from moscow. we had the munich security conference and that open schism between america and europe, and now the breakdown in relations between the united states and ukraine. and throughout all of this, there has been no sign that moscow is ready to make any concessions, ready for compromise, ready to give back any of the territories it has seized over the last three years. and after what we saw in the white house, that will not have changed. quite the opposite, i think. delegations are me

he is a coward under the coward of vladimir putin. i am truly ashamed. >> c-span's washington journal, a live forum inviting you to discuss the latest issues in government, politics and public policy. from washington, d.c. to across the country. coming up saturday morning, we're getting your reaction to the contentious meeting between president donald trump and president zelensky which took place in the office today where president trump confronted him for shot showing enough gratitude. join our conversation with your phone calls, text and social media comments. center for strategic and international studies europe, director max burtman we'll talk about the meeting between president trump and ukraine president delens cut this happened robin rutowig on the impact of potential doubts the program as house republicans seek their budget plan. c-span's washington journal, join in the conversation live at 7:00 eastern saturday morning on c-span, c-span now our free mobile app or online at c-span.org. >> congress returns monday facing a march

you want me to say really terrible things about putin, then say hi, vladimir, how are we doing on the deal? it doesn't work that way. you see the hatred he's got for putin. it's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate. he's got tremendous hatred. and i understand that. but i can tell you, the other side isn't exactly in love with, you know, him either. so, it's not a question of alignment. i have to -- i'm aligned with the world. >> reporter: vice president j.d. vance then jumping in. >> i will respond to this. so, look. for four years, the united states of america, we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talked tough about vladimir putin and then putin invaded ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. the path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy. >> reporter: zelenskyy interjecting. >> can i ask you -- >> sure, yeah, yeah. >> okay. >> reporter: the ukrainian president making the point that when they tried diplomacy in the past, putin broke the deal. >> he broke the ceasefire. he killed our people. and he

and that is bring vladimir putin to the table.stated publicly he wants peace and this war to be over. as to president zelenskyy. so today was a golden opportunity for ukraine, all of europe and vladimir putin and russia to stop all of the death and destruction. and that opportunity passed over today. by the way, the u.s. has now demonstrated over and over again under donald trump that we can and we will defend ourselves, regardless of what happens in ukraine. and for the record, the oceans are not our only protectors. we have the most powerful military the world has ever seen, we on the sky, we on the seas, we own outer space. and president trump is dedicated to producing the next generation of weaponry, including, as he often speaks about, and iron dome that will one day perhaps save millions of lives and our logistics are unmatched. we don't need ukraine, they rely on us and they have been as successful as they have been because of the hundreds of billions of dollars of your money that has been spent on this war that is ending r

he is vladimir putin's puppet.ith embarrassing that the only hero in the oval office, the only decent human being for that a matter is the ukrainian. >> it's a very sad day and an embarrassment for the united states on the world stage. but let's ten back and an -- step back and analyze what's happened here. i think there's no question that this was a setup. you heard donald trump say at the end of that a clip you plaid, this is great television. this was a setup. rachel: you know what was a setup? susan rice. susan rice set up this whole world. susan rice encouraged zelenskyy to push for entering into nato and sort of signaled we might do that, and that, of course, ended up ticking off putin. and i think in many ways starting this invasion, and that's why donald trump has said, no no, you're not going to be a part of nato in this deal. we're going to leave that as a neutral area and also you're going to pay us back. the europeans, you guys, are also sending messages similar to the democrats saying we stand with you

and on the other side, he thinks vladimir putin is his friend.is going not just in the wrong direction. this is going in the wrong direction, catastrophically fast, with implications globally for our system of alliances. >> we just heard from secretary rubio in our interview. i was told it was rubio and mike waltz who has your former job as the national security advisor? who were the ones who went to tell zelenskyy that that he had to leave the white house, even though ukrainians wanted to stay and talk. trump decided there was not time to negotiate or this wasn't the time to to continue that. what would you have done? were you in that job? >> well, i might have carried out the order, but i would have resigned. thereafter, i must say, watching marco on your show the first half hour was very sad for me. very sad. he's been a strong defender of a of a vigorous american foreign policy in the, in the wider world, which which keeps us safer at home. and and yet he talked about how hard it is to get the poor russian regime to the table to negotiate. on

you want me to say really terrible things about putin and then say, hi, vladimir. how are we doing on the deal? it doesn't work that way. i'm not aligned with putin. i'm not aligned with anybody. i'm aligned with the united states of america and for the good of the world. >> we tried the pathway of joe biden, of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of the united states words mattered more than the president of the united states. his actions. what makes america a good country? is america engaging in diplomacy? that's what president trump is doing. >> what kind of diplomacy? jd, you are speaking about what what what what do you mean? >> i'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country. >> yes. >> mr. president. mr. president, with respect, i think it's disrespectful for you to come into the oval office and try to litigate this in front of the american media. right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. you should be thanking the president fo

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sadly, the only winner of today is vladimir putin. i asked this all the time. i mean, what's to stop putin from just icing ukraine out of the good graces of the united states and then taking the whole thing? >> well, that's what he's been trying to do. and i disagree with everything that the lieutenant colonel has been saying. you know, i'm just some simple indiana boy. but when i watched this event today, i want to know why our ally is allowed to disrespect the united states of america. the leader, the current leader of the van jones. let me finish. >> in apology. president trump owes zelenskyy an apology for the way he's treated him. for what? i didn't, i demand it. what? i demand that they give. >> you demand un resolution number two. go ahead and say. >> demanded preposterous things like zelenskyy owes an apology for being attacked. i'm going to go ahead and say something outrageous, actually. >> if the price of you say that ukraine wants peace, jd vance should resign. >> how about that? we're just going to go through crazy stuff. >> you say ukraine wants pe

vladimir putin has not paid any price. even the.lated. >> until he. >> achieved his objective. ukrainians aren't asking for american. >> boots on the ground. that's not the. question here. they're asking for. >> weapons to. >> defend themselves and they're. >> being slaughtered. this is a shameful chapter. >> i'm ashamed of my country. >> i'm ashamed of. >> my president. >> and i'm ashamed. >> of. myself that i haven't done. >> more to. >> help these people. >> it is. >> really, really heartbreaking. >> and just just real quick on that. you had headlines screaming at that time in washington times, lindsey graham and mccain blasting the obama administration for waffling on arming ukraine. and then today, after this, you have lindsey graham saying this. >> i have never been more. proud of the president. i was very proud of jd vance standing up for our country. we want to be helpful. when i saw in the oval office was disrespectful, and i don't know if we can ever do business with zelensky again. the way he handled the meeting, the way

that war is a loser. >> compared to. >> vladimir putin.nskyy just. >> doesn't measure up. >> in trump's mind. zelenskyy is not the kind of leader that trump admires. >> zelenskyy is closer. >> to the leaders. >> of europe. >> in style and. >> substance. and trump has nothing but scorn for those leaders. he sees them as weak, as effeminate. >> zelenskyy has publicly expressed his frustration with trump before a year ago, telling cnn this. >> i can't understand how how donald trump can be on the side of putin. >> and in september, zelenskyy told the new yorker, quote, trump doesn't really know how to stop the war. trump took note of the insult. >> he's making little nasty aspersions toward your favorite president. >> could zelenskyy have managed the relationship better? >> this is almost certainly. >> not how. >> his advisers and supporters in europe advised him to handle donald trump. knowing of this tense history between them. >> even if mr. zelenskyy had more. >> uh. >> fuzzy warm time with mr. trump, at the end of the day, it's vladimir

you want me to say really terrible things about putin and then say, hi, vladimir, how are we doing on the deal? it doesn't work that way. i am not aligned with putin. i'm aligned with united states of america and the good of the world. i'm aligned with the world. and i want to get this thing over with. you see the hatred he's god for -- he has got for putin. it is tough to make a deal with that. i understand that. i can tell you the other side is not exactly in love with him either. so it is not a question of alignment. i am aligned with the world. i am aligned with europe. i want to see if we can get this thing done. i can be tougher than any human being you have ever seen. i would be so tough. but you will never get a deal that way. that's the way it goes. one more question. v.p. vance: i want to respond to this. for four years the united states of america had a president who stood up and press comforters and talked tough about vladimir putin and then putin invaded ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. the path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engagin

trump, at the end of the day it's vladimir putin who mr. trump admires the most. >> what could zelenskyy do for his part to repair the relationship? analyst susan glasser says zelenskyy could try to go to america's best friends in the region britain, france, germany and poland to solicit their help in getting back on donald trump's good side. >> victor brian todd, thank you. from blanket firings to demands for people to justify their jobs, elon musk is taking a chainsaw to the federal workforce. coming up, we speak with one expert who helped president bill clinton cut thousands of federal jobs. why? she says this time is different. plus, representative jasmine crockett and comedian actor dave foley joined roy wood jr., amber ruffin and michael ian black on a new episode of have i got news for you tonight at nine on cnn. >> cooked books. >> corporate fat cats. swindling socialites. doped up cyclists and yes. >> more crooked politicians. >> i have. >> a feeling we won't be running. >> out of those. >> anytime soon. >> a new season of united s

vladimir putin is a murderer.nyone who appeases him and thinks that they are going to get him to change his mind, even rubio and all those people, they know better. they are hypocrites or something. i can't figure it out. anyway, i hope they ask for forgiveness and maybe start looking at things more clearly through the truth. thank you. host: that was bred in ohio. other members responding -- that was brad in ohio. other members responding to the meeting include hakeem jeffries, democrat of new york. he was on cnn yesterday. here's what he had to say. [video clip] >> do you believe, leader jeffries, that the relationship between the trump administration and president zelenskyy can be salvaged? >> it has to be salvaged for the good of the free world. if america is going to continue to play that role. again, our leadership of the free world in the aftermath of world war ii to create a rules-based society all across the globe is in america's national security interest. it's designed to keep our people safe and secure

and vladimir putin still may not respect it. >> well. >> of course not. >> look, vladimir. >> putin made. >> it. very clear in his. >> speech to the. >> state duma in russia. >> in. 2005 that he. >> was going to try. >> and recreate. >> the russian. >> empire, and he's been about. >> it ever. >> since then, with. >> more or less. >> success in one place or another. >> he has said publicly. >> and many. >> of his. >> advisers, that ukraine. >> is central. >> to their. >> vision of a renewed russian empire. >> so he didn't. >> get what. >> he. >> wanted in 2014. >> but the west. >> did not. effectively sanction him, did not make. >> it clear. >> this was unacceptable, and he. >> thought he could do. >> it again in 2022. he has not been. >> as successful. >> as he wants, but he doubled. >> the. >> amount of ukrainian territory under russian military control. i think. putin wants a ceasefire now to rest, regroup, rebuild his army and he'll be back again in a matter of time. >> that's as clear. >> as anybody can make. >> what their strategic. >> doctrine is. >> john bolton, thank you for join

. >> what do you think vladimir putin's reaction is to all this? >> he's cheering. he's cheering. the news out of russia by the commentators, the news that they are all delighting at what happened in the oval office because they think essentially that the president and the vice president basically have accepted russia's talking points when it comes to dealing with ukraine. i have to say that there's no question that when trump says that he can trust somebody like putin, who is a tyrant, that that raises real questions about just exactly where this administration stands when it comes to either supporting democracies or supporting autocracies in the world. >> others we have spoken to have said the most remarkable thing about today is that it all played out in front of the public eye. my question is -- and you have probably been in some high level negotiations -- have you seen these kinds of exchanges behind closed doors and now it's just shocking to us because we get to see it for ourselves? >> well, you know, as a former chief of staff to a president of the united states, the last

tough about vladimir putin. and then putin invaded ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. the path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy. we tried the pathway ofjoe biden, of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of the united states' words mattered more than the president of the united states' actions. what makes america a good country is america engaging in diplomacy. that's what president trump is doing. can i ask you? sure. yeah. ok, so he occupied our parts, big parts of ukraine, - part of east and crimea. so he occupied it on 2014. all i can say is this — he might have broken deals with obama and bush, and he might have broken them with biden. he did, maybe. maybe he didn't. i don't know what happened, but he didn't break them with me. he wants to make a deal. i don't know if he can make a deal. the problem is, i've empowered you to be a tough guy. and i don't think you'd be a tough guy without the united states. and your people are very brave,

vice president vance: we had a president who stood up and talked tough about vladimir putin and then putin invaded ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. the path to peace is maybe engaging in diplomacy. we tried the pathway of joe biden of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of the united states's words mattered more than the president of the united states's actions. what makes america a good country is engaging in di palossi. that's what the -- in diplomacy. that's what he's doing. president zelensky: can i speak? >> sure. speak. >> he occupied big parts of crimea. he occupied it in 2015. so during all those years -- i'm not speaking about just bind. but those times was obama, then president obama then president trump, then president biden, and now president trump will stop him. but during 2015, nobody stopped him. he just occupied and took. he killed people. you know -- president trump: 2015. >> yes, but during 2014 until 2022, the situation was the same that people have been dying on the contact line. nobody stopped him. you know, we had convers

we had a president who talked tough about vladimir putin. and then putin invaded ukraine and destroy add significant chunk of the country. the path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy. we tried the pathway of joe biden of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of the united states' words mattered more than the united states' actions. what makes america a good country is to engage in diplomacy. >> can i speak? >> yeah, sure. >> he occupied our parts -- big parts of ukraine, parts of east and crimea. so he occupied it on 2015. so during a lot of years -- i'm not speak about just biden, but those time was obama, president obama then president trump and then president biden and now president trump would stop him. but during 2015, nobody stopped him. he killed people, you know? pres. trump: 2015. >> 2014. pres. trump: was not here. -- i was not here. >> until 2022, the situation the same. people have been dying on the contact line. nobody stopped him. you know, that we had conversations with him, a lot

that is what this has been about from. >> the and and on top of that, vladimir putin's sincere belief that ukraine is just russian and that it's not a real country. >> i'm old enough to remember when republicans were mad that obama allowed putin to claim crimea. >> yeah. all right, alex, thank you very much for joining us. everyone else, stay with me. coming up next, right wing radio is getting earful from callers about the chaos that's unfolding, including elon musk's doge cuts. plus, free speech is officially under fire in this new era, from the white house to the washington post. stay with us. >> welcome back. >> have i got news for you, new tonight on cnn. >> with flonase. allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily gives you long lasting non-drowsy relief. flonase all good. >> like a relentless weed. moderate to severe ulcerative colitis symptoms can keep coming back. start to break away from uc with tremfya with rapid relief at four weeks tremfya blocks a key source of inflammation at one year, many people experienced remission and some saw 100% visible healing of t

trump has never publicly scolded vladimir putin, the invader. he actually said in the meeting that he can't criticize vladimir putin and try to cut a deal, but he had no problem criticizing president zelensky. this is just a week after trump called zelensky a dictator again, a false claim that there's russian propaganda. joining us now to discuss it all is former republican congresswoman barbara comstock of virginia and evelyn farkas, former deputy assistant secretary of defense for russia, ukraine and eurasia. she's now the executive director of the mccain institute. >> evelyn, i just can't even begin to level up the embarrassment, the sheer hubris and stupidity of what we witnessed. i'd like to finish a thought that president zelensky tried to convey to little wunderkind j.d. vance when they were talking about, when he was trying to help them understand, if we get this wrong, you will feel the influence of bad decisions. let's take a listen to what he had to say about that. >> during the war. everybody has problems, even you. but you have nice

for four years we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talk tough about vladimir putin. and then putin destroyed a good chunk of the country. the path to peace and prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy. we tried the pathway of joe biden of thumping our chest and pretending the president's words mattered more than his actions. what makes america a good country is america engaging in diplomacy. that's what president trump is doing. >> can i ask you? ok. so he occupied big parts of ukraine, parts of east and crimea in 2014. so during a lot of years. those times was president obama, then president trump, and president biden, now president trump and god bless president trump. aim. during 2014 nobody stopped him. he just occupied and took. he killed people. >> 2015. >> 2014. i was not here. >> that's exactly right. >> but 2014 to 2022, the situation the same. people have been dying on the contact line. nobody stopped him. we had conversations with him. a lot of conversations. and we signed with him me, like a new president in 2019, i signed with him the deal. i signed wit

it was a planned ambush designed to embarrass president zelenskyy in order to benefit of vladimir putin what a complete and utter mass. and this is a gift to putin. we do not gain anything by acting like bullies and this is what police do. just because you act this way, by the way, does that mean you are tough. >> the president of the united states is a coward who who is vladimir putin's puppet. the vice president of the united states is a poke and a coward who was donald trump's puppet. so what we just witnessed was a meeting at the oval office between two cowardly puppets and the hero. >> jesse: this is just meaningless sloganeering. what is the democrats plan for peace and ukraine? they don't have one. what is the democrats plan to win the war in ukraine? they don't have one. the democrats only plan is to keep doing whatever joe biden was doing which is to fight an unwinnable and this proxy war. if the ukrainians just enough not to lose but not enough to win it. and if you do give them too much it starts a nuclear war. how is that strategy in america's interest. and during the war is

survived as far as it has with help from allies and i think the help ukraine got was out tough about vladimir putindestroyed a significant chunk of the country. the path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy. we tried the pathway ofjoe biden, of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of the united states' words mattered more than the president of the united states' actions. what makes america a good country is america engaging in diplomacy. that's what president trump is doing. can i ask you? sure. yeah. ok, so he occupied our parts, big parts of ukraine, - part of east and crimea. so he occupied it on 2014. all i can say is this — he might have broken deals with 0bama and bush, and he might have broken them with biden. he did, maybe. maybe he didn't. i don't know what happened, but he didn't break them with me. he wants to make a deal. i don't know if he can make a deal. the problem is, i've empowered you to be a tough guy. and i don't think you'd be a tough guy without the united states. and your people are very brave, but you're either going to make a d

united states of america had a president that stood up at press conferences and talks stuff about vladimir putinn invaded ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country, the path to peace and the path to prosperity is may be engaging in diplomacy. we tried the patter of joe biden, of thumping our chests and pretending that the president of the united states's words mattered more than the actions. what makes america a good country is america engaging in diplomacy. that's what president trump is doing. pres. zelenskyy: can i ask you? >> sure fish. pres. zelenskyy: he occupied big part of ukraine, part of the east and the crimea. he occupied it in 2014. so during a lot of years -- i am not speaking about just by then, but those times it was obama then president obama than president trump then president biden, now president trump and god bless, now president trump will stop him. but during 2014, nobody stopped him. he just took it. he killed people. pres. trump: 2015. vp vance: 2014. pres. trump: 2014? i was not here. pres. zelenskyy: yes, but during 14 tail 2022, a situation with the same

>> you want me to say really terrible things about putin and then say, hi, vladimir. how are we doing on the deal? that doesn't work that way. i'm not aligned with putin. i'm not aligned with anybody. i'm aligned with the united states of america and for the good of the world. i'm aligned with the world, and i want to get this thing over with. >> does this mean zelenskyy has been deported and isn't allowed back into the country? no. sometimes you have to break up to make up a lot of relationships, go through ups and downs and people get back together. a lot of deals blow up before they're eventually signed. hopefully this is just a bump in the road. white house deputy chief of staff stephen miller. stephen, did you have any clue that zelensky was going to come in hot like this? >> i don't think anybody had any idea that zelensky would be so impertinent, so disrespectful, so insulting to the united states of america. look, this is one of the great moments in the history of american diplomacy, the way that president trump and jd vance stood up for american interests in t