and i got a call from the president of latvia. would i come and speak to the baltic state president. i flew all to assure them that we, that republicans and democrats, thought the commitment in nato was a sacred commitment. we would defend them. because trump is saying, i'm not sure, man. have you paid up your dues, man? i mean, this guy -- i don't even think he understands how much damage he does, by what he's already said. i mean, because europe, especially central and eastern europe is scared to death about what putin may or may not do. and this guy -- i mean, look, he found out crimea is part of ukraine. i mean, you know, maybe he'll -- [ laughter ] maybe he'll find out -- it' almost like the guy didn't really intend to do this. he thought that maybe this was a lark and it will go somewhere and my god, here we go, guys. >> jimmy: but have you seen gary johnson at all in any interview? he couldn't name a world leader yesterday. he couldn't name a world leader. not one. it was very interesting. >> he thought aleppo was a dog foo