well, phyllis ben, this is the fellow with the institute for policy studies. she says the pressure on the, by the administration to support a cease fire is increasing. there's already a very strong movement that has emerged i have never seen in my years of working on this issue. i've never seen anything close to this level of mobilization of people, of movements of institutions all across the country, demanding a ceasefire. right now 80 percent of democrats president by his party. i want an immediate ceasefire. 66 percent of people across the country say they want to cease fire. and we're seeing a situation in which just as the u. s. is so isolated within the united nations, the buttons ministrations policy on this issue is completely isolated. here in the united states, it's gone far beyond now the individual high ranking members of the state department that we were hearing about. there's now been over a 1000 staffers of the us agency for international development usa i d that have signed letters saying that there must be a ceasefire. there are numbers of peo

now we have joining us from washington, dc. phyllis ben is a fellow at the institute for policy studies and an international advisor to the advocacy organization, jewish voice for peace and tell of eve, gideon levy a columnist for the is writing daily hotspots and overall the punishment of garza. and also in washington d. c. nile stanish it political analyst and the white house column list for the political newspaper. the hill. thanks to all of you for joining us. if i could start with 9, so has nothing. yeah. who's visit demonstrated now do you think the support is route is no longer a solidly by a path as an a 5? 0 yes, it is certainly demonstrated zack's, i mean, the boy cops by democratic members of his speech to congress was very significant. didn't compost, a lot of democrats not only people on the so called hard left of the party in addition to that, you had to prove chest in the st switch underlined. i think the degree of public discontent with israel's assault on gasser. i mean, this is an issue where the, the voter base of the democratic party, knowing by a significant margin

blind spot america and the palestinians from ball forward to trump, and also in washington dc. phyllis ben is a fellow at the institute for policy studies, pink time, and international advisor to the jewish voice for peace organization finished. let me start with you in washington to understand why we've seen a visit of support by president biden, to tennessee, to israel, even after the massacre at the i ali baptist hospital in gaza. even at a time when the region is boiling. why, why is the us so committed and supporting as well today? that's a very long story and we don't have time to go into the history. but i think the question today is the consequences of this visit, this bear hug, diplomacy, and that we've seen so far means that unless there's a public call for a ceasefire, which i do not anticipate, we will see this visit is going to be seen and shouldn't be seen as a real endorsement of israel's continuing attack against gaza. there are likely to be vague references to urging israel not to violate international law or expressing some kind of concern for palestinian civilians. but t

so palestinian prisoners, which is expected on saturday as part of the gaza ceasefire deal. phyllis ben is a fellow of the institute for policy studies in washington dc. she's also the author of understanding palestine and israel. she says the ceasefire is in a franchise state. i don't know that we're even going to make it through the 6 weeks of phase one, which was to include the release of about half of the remaining hostages, the release of hundreds of palestinian prisoners that are being and legally held inside israel, as well as allowing in massive amounts of humanitarian aid, and it's not at all clear that that's going to survive. the ceasefire depends on and agreement. and other things that in phase is 2 and 3. there will be discussions about continuing the ceasefire as a permanent reality ending the war. and that has been from the beginning a palestinian demand for the uh, for the cease fire negotiation. it was a major concession when they agreed to sign off on the cease fire with the agreement only that there would be further negotiations towards making it permanent, rather tha

. >> joining me from washington, d.c., is phyllis bens i. she's a co-founder of the u.s. campaign to end israeli occupation. the white house has insisted it never said that israel should return to a narrow definition of the 1967 territorial lines. president obama has spoken about the need for israeli security, about with the need for israel to defend itself. so why do you think netian hue was so -- netanyahu was so strong in his rebuttal about this 1967 line? >> the israeli position has been that all of the land they control is legally theirs. they ignore the realities of international law that makes all of the land something that they must withdraw from. the resolution 242 that we hear so often spoke of a withdrawal from the territory occupied in the recent conflict. that means all of the west bank, all of gaza and all of east jerusalem. president obama didn't even call for that. what president obama called for was the same thing that president bush called for in 2005 and again in 2008. president bush didn't use the term 1967 border, he used the term the 1949 armistice l

ben. keep that lead. i don't know if i should say i've got a whole lot of adrenalin running in my veins or requests to say that i'm phyllis the you come around. yeah. and the crowd was so happy to see you used to be 100 percent male dominated. we've got a lot of females getting into this for now, and i'm very happy to see that there are more and more women getting into the spinning industry every week. but it's popular because it's part of the culture here in south africa. um, it just became a part of a rebellious thing with the parts or government and then it became worth anything that's fed becomes rebellious, which becomes popular to use the reading from so it, so in this is we have spinning sided problem as they say, i mean there's not a day that will go past without you seeing or hearing one of these babies driving past so you already know the sound of like one of the pacific. so i mean, for me, it was just one of those things. my brother, my life brother, he wasn't surprised because he wasn't through all of that. so for me it was just a natural thing. and i started by getting myself, this cough painted red because i

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