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mr. perry: mr. speaker, can i inquire to the time remaining. theminutes remaining. mr. nk you, mr. speaker. i do want to respond to my good friend from washington. i didn't meato mischaracterize his assessment or his comments. however, the speaker before you did essentially make those claims. while i'm here i want to characterize what the public seeing if they are reading the "washington times." here's an article from wednesday, december 6, 2023, the idea to fill empty federal buildings with illegal immigrants where d.h. headquarters is 69% unused, and social security offices are 93% vacant. 93% vacantonder offices like mil with so many constituent calls when they can't get answers from the social security administration. we come back to work, but if they are not going to come back to work, my goodness, could we stop having everybody, including social security recipients, pay for the empty building? then there is another one from the "washington times" here dated thursday, september 21, telework's empty buildings opens the door for legionnaires' disease. isn't that wonde

larry: mr. perry? mr. perry: i would say a that is a flawed question asked of mr. john. -- trump. , the declaration of independence does say governments exist with the consent of the governed and are supposed to protect life, liberty and property. think you are smart enough to be your own government. [applause] larry: this next question is to mr. peterson. should illegal immigration be stopped? what does open borders mean? mr. peterson: i believe a free market and labor is just as effective lifting people out of as aty is just as helpful free commodity. borders are drawn on a map by politicians. the nationstate things it only serves the needs of the individuals. i believe we as libertarians can offer to the american people a solution we have had in our history shows during the alicessive era, we had an island -- ellis island policy. you are out of time. dr. feldman. mr. feldman: america is the land of opportunity. i will streamline this immigration system and we will have liberty for americans and be welcom

larry: mr. perry? mr. perry: i would say a that is a flawed question asked of mr. john. -- trump. , the declaration of independence does say governments exist with the consent of the governed and are supposed to protect life, liberty and property. think you are smart enough to be your own government. [applause] larry: this next question is to mr. peterson. should illegal immigration be stopped? what does open borders mean? mr. peterson: i believe a free market and labor is just as effective lifting people out of as aty is just as helpful free commodity. borders are drawn on a map by politicians. the nationstate things it only serves the needs of the individuals. i believe we as libertarians can offer to the american people a solution we have had in our history shows during the alicessive era, we had an island -- ellis island policy. you are out of time. dr. feldman. mr. feldman: america is the land of opportunity. i will streamline this immigration system and we will have liberty for americans and be welcom

mr. perry: i think it will help. ke: more questions after another quick break while the candidates have the big finish. this is wgal's debate with the 10th congressional district. we begin with congressman perry. which political action committees or pac's are funding your campaigns, and does that impact your actions in washington? mr. perry: first of all, i am sure we get donations, just like all candidates, from different organizations. some of those are pac's. some i have no idea. they put up messages and advertisements. i never talked to them, they never talked to me, so i have no control of it. i am not a big fundraiser. i try to spend time in the district working on what i think the people that sent me there want me to do which is working on legislation, constituent services, and doing the work of a servant. unfortunately, fundraising is a part of it. with the redistricting, this is going to change dramatically. we are going to see something we have never seen before in central pennsylvania, which is this huge in

[applause] mr. perryt, my friends, we are a resilient country. you think about who we are. we have been through a civil war. we have been through two world wars. we have been through a great depression and made it through jimmy carter. we will make it through the obama years. we will do this. [applause] the fundamental nature of our country never say knock down, we get back up. we dust ourselves off and we move forward. and you know what? we will do it again. [applause] mr. perry: i want to share some important truths, starting with this truth, we don't have to settle for a world in chaos and america that shrinks from its responsibility. we don't have to apologize for american exceptionalism or western values. we don't have to accept slow growth that leaves behind the middle class and leaves millions of americans out of work. we don't have to settle for crumbling bureaucracies that harm our taxpayers and veterans. we don't have to re-sign ourselves to debt, decay and slow growth. we have the power to make

mr. perry: cost is important. we would hope the help of our neighboring countries would help pay for that. jenelle: they have clearly said they are not paying for it, mr. trump. have come i know they up we are the world and the want to trade with us. there is an impetus for them to work together with us. i think they should and we can. we cannot discount the cost of illegal immigration, whether it is our education system, those are big cost happening right now, every single day and our communities. we cannot discount the cost of human trafficking and the deaths. of fentanyl it is up 750%. they bring it over the border and then it is in your community via u.s. mail. jenelle: you think a wall will stop that? mr. perry: i think it will help. mike: more questions after another quick break while the candidates have the big finish. >> it is 19 days until the midterm elections and tonight president trump will attend the campaign rally for montana republican u.s. senate candidate matt rosendale, running against jon tester.

mr. perry: thank you, mr. speaker. i do want to respond to my good friend from washington. i didn't mean to mischaracterize his assessment or his comments.ver, the speaker before you did essentially make those claims. i was answering to that. while i'm here i want to characterize what the public seeing if they are reading the "washington times." here's an article from wednesday, december 6 2023, the idea to fill empty federal buildings with illegal immigrants where d.h.s. headquarters is 69% unused, and social security offices are 93% vacant. 93% vacant. no wonder offices many constituent calls when they can't get answers from the social security administration. we would like those folks who come back to work, but if they are not going to come back to work, my goodness, could we stop having everybody including social security recipients, pay for the empty building? then there is another one from the "washington times" here dated thursday, september 21, 2023. telework's empty buildings opens the door for legionnaires' d

mr. perry: nobody's flying to guantanamo bay for recreating and whatever and would be protesters at some point and of course you won't go there kind of unannounced and exercise some terrorist activity. that's just not going to happen at guantanamo bay so it's shielded by that from the geography and the place that it is. also, i just wanted to say, since you mentioned the military and of course you have a high component of military members in the state and in the area, thank you for your -- you served with your husband as well. we appreciate the -- your sacrifice in that regard. can you talk at all about the costs to local law enforcement, whether it's regarding protests, whether it's being prepared for any eventuality and not have the failure of imagination whether or not one of these individuals would get out or someone would use the facility as a target, can you address that at all? governor haley: you know, we can talk about costs but you can't put a cost on fear. you can't put a cost on wha

mrs. perrys at it again today speaking at a diner in south carolina she told an unemployed man she shared his pain. mrs. perry said her son was also out of work and added "my son lost his job because of this administration." well, here's tonight's truth. wrong again, mrs. perry. and again not even close. griffin perry did have to give us his job at deutch bank because he's been raising money for his father's campaign and the securities and exchange commission has rules governing political activities. in other words to keep people who may want to get investments in a state pension program like the one in texas from trying to buy political sway through campaign contributions. those rules were tightened effective last year because of shenanigans too many to mention related to the 2008 mortgage mess and broader financial meltdown. griffin perry, the son in question, told abc news recently, he decided to put his career on hold to help his dad. he said it was his choice. so for mrs. perry to say "my s

mr. perry's death we didn't investigation it was in depth. was broad, and we found this larger network that was distributing ketamine too much so perry, as well as two others so how widespread was this operation it was very widespread. we collaborated with our partners, los angeles police department, the drug enforcement in the situation. the u.s. postal inspection service, to make sure we pulled every thread. in this case he's oh, we found was to license physicians who are supplying ketamine illegally to mr. perry. >> we found brokers, we found is live in assistance helping with this and we found this major source of supply whose customers referred to her as the ketamine queen so how, many customers are we talking about here beyond just matthew perry we believe there were numerous customers we searched the residents of the ketamine queen. we've found at vials of ketamine, thousands of pills and methamphetamine, cocaine, follows antics. you name it so certainly there are other customers, but we know at least a one other death related to this

>> he saw mr. perry freeze up and he saw his blood pressure spike yet he continued to supply ketamine to mr. perry, which obviously is very concerning for anyone, much less a licensed physician and your office uncovered text messages from before perry died, including from dr. p. asking another doctor quote, i wonder how much this moron will pay. what does that say to you? >> it says to me that these defendants operated based on greed. they wanted to take advantage of another person's addiction to profit off of that person. and they didn't care the consequences. i didn't care about the fact that they were risking mr. perry's life many of these individuals learned of perry's death from the news talk us through what your office claims was a frantic effort to try and cover this all up once mr. perry died, the news reported on that, but we saw is that same day the ketamine queen just been sanya sent messages to delete all texts to the broker who was assisting her in addition, we found that the doctor, dr. pla

mr. perryat's right. we will have to hire very good scientist. senator franken: well 90% of scientists -- climate scientists say that this is real. of the century, we will be reaching 3.5 celsius increases in temperature and that will be disastrous. i don't want that for my grandchildren. let me put that 97% in context. a recent survey found that only 95% of scientists are sure that cigarettes cause cancer. that signs on me climate change is pretty definitive. -- science on climate change is pretty definitive. i just don't want -- and i know my time is out to -- i don't economys idea of the and addressing climate change are at odds at all. state, peopleyour stay in your communities that have wind. those towers are big. they are tall. only young people can go up with and keep young people in your community. to -- i don't know if you have any grandchildren yet. mr. perry: a little early for that. they were just married in october. senator franken: yes, too early. [laughter] you see, i am not a ma

mr. perry has 29% support. mitt romney drops down to 18%. 15% remain undecided and michele bachmann comes in with 13%. since announcing over the weekend, mr. perry has had some tough words for washington starting with fed chairman ben bernanke. >> is this guy prints more money between now and the election, i don't know what you all would do to him in iowa. but we would treat him pretty ugly. printing more money to play politics at this particular time in american history is almost treason oust in my opinion. >> mr. perry raised some eyebrows with these comments about the president. >> laura: bill o'reilly talked to don imus this morning about the governor. >> speaking of rick perry, is he for real? >> bill: yeah, oh yeah. absolutely viable contender. nice economic story to tell in texas. and you know, you know he is for real when the "new york times" attacks him, which they did 13 seconds after he announced calling him some kind of fascist and all of that. so, yeah, he certainly is a viable contender. >> joinin

mr. perry: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. countryman, good morning. you started with the administration in september of 2011? is that correct? mr. countryman: i have been a foreign service officer since 1982. i started my current post in 2011. mr. perry: did you have any participation in the negotiation/agreement that we are speaking of, the jcpoa? mr. countryman: i was not a member of the negotiating team. mr. perry: what was your involvement? you are the assistant secretary for the bureau of international security and nonproliferation. i would think that this would fall under the nonproliferation moniker, if you would. what was your duties regarding this program, the negotiations, the deal, etc.? mr. countryman: as you know the negotiating team was small. and worked very well. i provided a couple of my experts for technical support. mr. perry: you are fully aware of what was happening and who was doing it even though you weren't there. you provided experts but you knew when things were happenin

yes, mr. perryery thought of having to walk on stage amongst friends and talk about his policies. seriously. and so, his campaign team has let it be known that mr. perry is not going to appear in every debate from now on. he just can't take it anymore. but before you jump in and berate him for being a scaredy-cat, a weak heart, and a wuss, just ask yourself how you'd feel if you'd performed like this. >> against the second amendment, before he was for -- galileo got outvoted for a spell. was it before he was before? if you're saying i can be bought for $5,000, i'm offended. before he was against versus -- roe versus wade. >> the last time i saw anyone as punch-drunk as perry on stage was in may, 1987, when pinklin thomas challenged mike tyson for the heavyweight champion of the world and landed flat on his back. i think we all understand why rick perry is now running scared. thank you very much for watching. dylan is back, he's here, and he's ready to take us forward. dylan, it's yours. >> i was jus

mr. perry: thank you, mr. speaker. i once again urge my colleagues to support a good, well thought out, meaningful, useful bill. h.r. 2433. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the question is will the house suspend the rules and pass the bill h.r. 24 3? those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, 2/3 being in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the bill is passed and without objection the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i move that the house suspend the rules and pass the bill h.r. 2454, the department of homeland security data framework act of 2017 as amended. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: h.r. 2454 a bill to direct the secretary of homeland security to provide a data framework to provide access for appropriate personnel to law enforcement and other information of the department and for other

mr. perry is more conservative than mr. romney and he often uses spirit in his presentations. mr. omney is running as america's ceo. a man who has succeeded in private business and who knows how to handle the free marketplace. governor perry is pretty much running on that as well showcasing texas economic success story. the truth is that both romney and perry have many things in common. including good hair both them would offer a challenge to barack obama. at this point it's gobble to say which man has the most going for him even though governor perry leads in the polls he is untested in debate and americans don't know him very much. governor romney has big name recognition but many are suspicious of him not popular in republican primaries. the perry romney battle is a toss-up and could go either way depending on how the candidates perform in the upcoming debates. as they like to say in texas. there will be a high noon between these two men. a verbal shootout that will leave just one standing. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. let's bring in the aforementioned car

mr. perry: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. countryman, good morning. you started with the administration in september of 2011? is that correct? mr. countryman: i have been a foreign service officer since 1982. i started my current post in 2011. mr. perry: did you have any participation in the negotiation/agreement that we are speaking of, the jcpoa? mr. countryman: i was not a member of the negotiating team. mr. perry: what was your involvement? you are the assistant secretary for the bureau of international security and nonproliferation. i would think that this would fall under the nonproliferation moniker, if you would. what was your duties regarding this program, the negotiations, the deal, etc.? mr. countryman: as you know the negotiating team was small. and worked very well. i provided a couple of my experts for technical support. mr. perry: you are fully aware of what was happening and who was doing it even though you weren't there. you provided experts but you knew when things were happenin

mr. perry: thanks for taking the time to discuss this for allowing me. and i didn't want you to carry the freight. we didn't get to say everything over the proceedings and it frussthates that our colleagues will say america assassinated general soleimani. you can put a general's rank on a puppy dog or a rabbit or you name it or a car or a truck, this guy is a terrorist, no matter what he is wearing. he is a terrorist from a terrorist state. that is who he is. response i will for the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands of americans and maiming of thousands of americans and when they say this president is starting a war, my goodness, where have you been since 19 . you know when iran punched america in the face. it hasn't stopped. after 40 years of appeasement d you are a great student of history and the results of appeasement leading up to world ar ii was the untold death and miserable deaths of people because of appeasement and tried it with iran. irpe is playing long ball. people are saying th

mr. perry: i would like to add my voice to that. keeping in mind that i am married to a nurse. [laughter] and a really good one. if you don't first keep this country free, if you don't first have the investment in the men and women who are willing to hold their hands up and say here i am, send me, you will never have the dollars to hire a teacher, you will never have the dollars to hire a nurse. i just want to take a moment. driving back in here today from the airport, i left my grandchildren to come specially to be here with you all. before the night is up, lord willing, i will be back with them. driving back in here, i heard something that was as disturbing to me as i have heard in this entire process of running for the presidency of the united states. there was an individual who sat upon this stage earlier today who doesn't understand or don't care -- doesn't care about people who serve this country. to discharge a legitimate american hero like john mccain. you may disagree with his politics

mr. perry: i heard this question before. mr. heath: i thought you might have. mr. perry: i think it is -- when you look at the federal government, obviously when we talk about the size of it and the concept of being able to shrink the size of state government. if anybody gets on the stage whether any of these candidates here or anybody on the left that says there is any way to go forward in this country without cutting and without growing, those are the two things that we must do in this country. we have to cut spending. i know a little bit about cutting spending. we had a $10 billion shortfall in 2003. we went in and made the cuts. we told people we would do that. we realize that's how you have to live your life. the government has to learn to do it as well. the states that have been successful, governors have done that and made successful cuts. we cut the $10 billion out and cut the regulatory laws down. we had sweeping tort reform. we had health care explode across texas. two years later, we came back into session, we only meet every other year for 140 days, we h

mr. perry: without objection, so ordered. mr. duncan: there is a school, elementary school or middle school, near the naval big, is that correct? governor haley: yes. i talked to someone yesterday and said good luck tomorrow. he said everybody in my area is terrified what could happen. mr. duncan: we're talking about south carolinian mothers and fathers considering sending their children to a school in close proximity to some of the most wanted and dangerous terrorists in the world so thanks for pointing that out. the letter that you and governor brownback sent to ash carter, did y'all get a response on that? governor haley: i'm not aware that we got a response. i will follow up and just confirm that but i am not aware of a response. they've been very -- they handled this very much on their own and have not included us in the process. i have had conversations of governor brownback and i have made it very clear and i want it to be made very clear, any governor that has to deal with this, i will fight for them to make sure it doesn

mr. perry: i agree with you. but -- ambassador nuland: however -- mr. perry: they have legitimate grievances, does russians have legitimate grievances? ambassador nuland: russian speaking ukrainians have long wanted some of the things that russia championed for them language, rights decentralization. but all of those things were on offer first from the transitional government of yatsenyuk onward and now with poroshenko. mr. perry: history sometimes gets lost on us as we go through our days. i just want to make sure that administration is familiar and aware of the history of stalin and khrushchev in the 1920's and the terror famine and starvation of the ukrainian people and deportations and the re-establishment of russians into the ukraine and so when putin says that he's going to protect these russian-speaking citizens, with all due respect they were moved into ukraine by killing the ukrainians and it's important to know that history when we talk about legitimate grievances. so i'm concerned -- i, too, agree we should send defensive weapons to ukraine. i

anybody of faith is going to get raked over by the secular press and mrs. perry and governor perry should have been ready for that. >> the big leagues. >> i do believe there is an antichristian bias in the mainstream media in it country. i absolutely believe that. i'm not wrong on this. you know i say i could be wrong, i'm not wrong. if you are christian and you tell voters that your faith influences your decision-making, the secular press is going to try to cut your heart out. >> but the secular press is going to detroy any republican nominee or try to. >> bill: but it gets elevated for people like sarah palin. >> of course, it does. >> bill: and rick perry and michele bachmann. >> there thy ha has to be a std of excellence you need to meet. of course, they will come after him. he is a texan and evangelical. >> bill: the christianity thing makes them see, the new york times people, makes them crazy. >> they hate him but a lot of people love him for it. >> bill: what hurts him far more was his stance on illegal immigration. that illegal immigration was really wha

mr. heath: thank you, governor perry. mr. perry: thank you. >> rick santorum represented pennsylvania from 1991 until 1995 in the house. mr. heath: should the federal government subsidized any sector and which ones? mr. santorum: we have to make sure our sectors are competitive. one of the things i announced, if we are going to restore the center of america, we have to get american spectrum realty that we have to get americans back to work. wage growth has released stagnated. 74% of americans do not have a college degree and do not have manufacturing jobs. 20 million manufacturing jobs when reagan was president. we now have 11 million. if we do not allow our country to be competitive with the rest of the world, we will continue to see that the client and there is no struggling list. that is why i put our campaign square on, will make effectuating competitive. he will put out a flat tax that will have a time that transitions for manufacturing. we will incentivize that money to calm into country. we will have repatriation. inste

mrs. perry talking about the rigors of campaigning and what she feels is driving the criticism of her husband. >> this has been a rough month. i don't need to tell you we've been brutalized and beaten up and chewed up in the press. we've been brutalized by our opponents and our party so much of that i think they look at him because of his faith. he's the only true conservative. i truly feel like we are here for that purpose. >> mrs. perry saying god called governor perry to this race saying the husband was happy being governor but she encouraged him to run because she felt washington was lacking leadership. one of perry's rivals former godfather ceo continues his surge in the polls his signature economic plan is drawing increased scrutiny. the 999 proposal would reform the current tax code cutting it down to a 9% personal income tax, 9% corporate tax and 9% national sales tax. the plan is getting mixed reviews with "the washington post" offering this critique -- herman cain will sit down with da

mr. perry: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. perry: mr. speaker, i rise today in strong support of h.r. 3859, the h.s.a. technical corrections act. this important, commonsense legislation amends the homeland security act of 2002, the h.s.a., byp updating obsolete language and striking outdated offices and reporting requirements. in the aftermath of september 11, 2001, congress passed the h.s.a., the organizing document of the department of homeland security, or d.h.s., to enhance the ability of the federal government to prevent future acts of domestic terrorism. passage of this legislation marked one of the most dramatic reorganizations of the federal government in decades, and introduced a number of new offices and reporting requirements. in the intervening years, agencies have changed names, roles and responsibilities have shifted, and a number of reporting requirements have expired. this legislation updates the h.s.a.

mr. perry by the way served in the air force. the president took the opportunity to lecture governor perry yesterday. >> mr. perry just got in the presidential race. i think that everybody who runs for president it probably takes them a little bit of time before they start realizing that this isn't like running for governor or running for senator or running for congress. got to be a little more careful about what you say. but i will cut him some slack. he has only been at it for a few days now. >> laura: here is how governor perry respond today. dollars. >> yesterday, the president said i needed to watch what i say. i just want to respond back, if i may, mr. president, actions speak louder than words. my actions as governor are helping to create jobs in this country. the president's actions are killing jobs in this country. it's time to get america working again. >> laura: joining us now from stanford, connecticut with analysis the purveyor of dick morris.com. mr. morris. dick, i'm watching this whole thing unfold. i saw that litt

battle at the top of the polls forefront runner status he was the one this pulled the trigger on mr. perryd the texas governor before criticizing him. >> my friend, governor perry said if you don't agree with his position on giving the in-state tuition you don't have a heart. if you are opposed to illegal immigration it doesn't mean you don't have a heart it means you have a heart and a brain. >>carl: and then michele bachmann took the stage. she, too, said she is in favor of a complete border fence on 1,900 miles of the border, and perry opposes that and she would stop the provision of instate tuition credit or other services for illegal immigrants and mr. perry made in mention of last knit's remarks and he didn't even bring up the subject of illegal immigration but talked about health care and criticized president obama and romney, suggesting that romney's plan in massachusetts was the model for obama, a lengthy criticism of romney and obama but a hunger to hear him talk about immigration and what happened and he did not deliver. >>trace: apart from the immigration issue, i watched the a

mr. perry: thank you, mr. yoho. to continue the conversation i'd like to recognize the gentlelady from the great state of arizona, ms. sinema. ms. sinema: thank you for hosting this special order. unfortunately, these days in washington, there are too few issues that bring republicans and democrats together to find reasonable solutions to the challenges facing our country. but supporting the national guard is one issue that certainly brings us together which is why i appreciate the opportunity to joan my colleagues today. the united states needs a fully functional and operational national guard. the active military and national guard may have different attributes but they train and certify to the same standards and guard units and personnel can function interchangeably wither that active duty brothers and sisters. we rely on the national guard to protect our country overseas and here at home. arizona has a proud tradition of service and we are proud of our fellow arizonans who become citizen soldiers. sin september

i want to ask mr. perry to talk to me a little bit about what the federal government does with oil that you mentioned, that extract from cannibus. >> as you know, thanks for the question. marijuana is a schedule one drug. >> right. >> so the extract from it remains part of that drug. >> it's schedule one. >> so literally what we want to mi make sure that the federal government is using that circumstance to stop people from aveiling themselves to the extract. >> i understand. i support your measure. the question that i have a concern about is i get all sorts of mail and i recently -- as recently as last week had something come in the mail about this particular product. now my assumption is that it's being sold. and i'm just curious -- >> i don't use it. but it is being sold for sure in places like colorado and places where it's been legalized. pennsylvania just legalized for medicinal uses. so it is being sold but we don't want people to -- when we originally started on this if you crusade, people were litera