-- shawna, will you marry me? >> yes! >> yes! >> i love that last shot at the end where the helicopter is just flies right on by right next to them. >>> when you give a porcupine an >>> these fellows are channeling their inner tarzan me jane is always such a good idea. >> meow. >> first one makes it over. >> and guy number two. landing. and woo! >> oh wow. he did it in style. he's like let me put my back into it. >> he noodled it. he didn't jump. he flopped his body across the rope there. [ laughter ] >> i love that. from the swamp to the boat. >> oh! >> and he landed on the, out of all the places he could land was on the rocks. >> he was out of shape from the >> whoops whoops, bad idea. >> kadeem williams has quite an interesting video proposal for -- >> "sports illustrated," abigail. pitch lands >>> i'm going to show awe video of two guys on a teeter brd. actually it's quite cool. these guys are impressive, you're watching inar, and olin and anton. they have skiing and gymnastics background. got together and sai

. girlfriend, shawna. i love her more than cake. >> chad and his girlfriend were on this boat. >> it was like go into the middle of the ocean by yourself and we'll catch up and i'll know what to do. what does that mean? i'll know what to do. >> he doesn't really know how he's going to get the ring. he picked it out himself. but the guys have a surprise for him. he's not going to have to pay for this ring. he is big, patty, mayo over here is giving harnesses that he's going to deliver the ring on the boat. it's a very carefully get the helicopter really close to the boat. >> my mouth is open like what is going on. >> they almost land a helicopter on his head. >> this is where it gets real lovely. >> the helicopter pulls away. >> will you marry me! >> what? what? >> i love you! >> yes, i love chicken! >> it didn't go like that. at all. >> i love you more than i could ever describe. we've been through some crazy stuff together and shawna, as scared as i am to do this, in this moment -- shawna, will you marry

-- shawna, will you marry me? >> yes! >> yes! >> i love that last shot at the end where the helicopter is just flies right on by right next to them. >>> when you give a porcupine an >>> these fellows are channeling their inner tarzan me jane is always such a good idea. >> meow. >> first one makes it over. >> and guy number two. landing. and woo! >> oh wow. he did it in style. he's like let me put my back into it. >> he noodled it. he didn't jump. he flopped his body across the rope there. [ laughter ] >> i love that. from the swamp to the boat. >> oh! >> and he landed on the, out of all the places he could land was on the rocks. >> he was out of shape from the >> whoops whoops, bad idea. >> kadeem williams has quite an interesting video proposal for -- >> "sports illustrated," abigail. hey practice. but real quick. >> can i record it? >> >>. >>> as younger adolescent men, nick and i didn't have many options when it came to crushing on actresses and models. but today with the social media, there are so many options

shawna: i talked to some former u.s. attorneys who say dangling a pardon could equal obstruction of justice. it depends, it would be a hard case to prove because you don't know what's in people's basically. ithe thing about michael cohen, though, is that, because all of the information around this, did he talk to his lawyer about it, did his lawyer talk to president trump, was that michael cohen asking for a pardon, also michael cohen has admitte to lying to congress before -- he's not the most relble source. and while sometimes the president of the united states is also not the most reliable source, when the president gets on the chopper and basically says michael cohen is a liar, it's hard to refute that so that all kind of plays into the president'sve narra. joshua: we also know, too, cohen spent hours and hours this week testifying before the house and we don't know what was said because that was in private. however, a number of democrats in those hearings have suggested in various interviews on tv that there really

this is also what shawna forde has been claiming since she was arrested. we requested an interview, but death row inmates are not allowed interviews in arizona. after months of waiting, we were finally granted permission to talk to her on the phone. yes . ok, thank you. the world is driven by shaped by one person. those with no dares thinks we dare to ask the impossible super we were sleeves so sure. with a truth to, w. clubbable was she who are sure to keep the i.q. on board. it doesn't actually matter. vegetable would have been the most you've got to go with us because all of these to do just about because those stories could be game we will see in the movie it is with the it seems obvious news, but it's the most insidious some of what is in your speech comes off the news, the of the 20th century was doing in the year of revolution, the great depression and world war, the 21st century of mental illness. those aren't my words. that's what surfaced some psychiatry to tell us. the only question is, should we accept it as a fact? join me every week on the al

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shawna thomas, washington bureau chief for vice news. susan glasser, staff writer for "the new yorke and author of the weekly "letter from trump's washington." and joshua gen, national correspondent for bloomberg "businessweek." shawna, you've covered capitol hill for years.at demo now are broadening the scope of this investigation. all of rheseuests. yet they're getting ahead of robert mueller and his time line. why is that? shawna: i don'think they see it as getting ahead of robert mueller. i think they see it as, for the last two years of the trump administrati h, we haven't any power to do anything, it's time to gather information and see what's out there and if you don't start now, you'll put out 81 requests, who knows how many tcuments they're going get back. that will take a long time to go through that. so while it seems like they're getting aheadf mueller, we don't know what's going to come out of all of this and like the mueller investigation, as we've said it will take a long time, don't know what the conclusions are. anything

shawna forde was an early activists a regular on the media and television. she liked to praise the merits of her militant actions and she knew are of like the back of her hand. there's an extremely dangerous area a matter of fact there are dangers but i'm ready to bring more. but i don't have the numbers i have one gun on me and. we're not getting people trying to pin lawyers and doctors here ok we're getting the floor of the floor we know what we need to do to secure these borders we know what we need to do to secure the sovereignty of this nation and that's what we're going to do and we will win this war there's a shot of for a minute an american defense. plane wallace like other militia members doesn't believe shawna forde is a murderer. she thinks she was settling scores between opposing cartels and that she was the scapegoats for the murders. this is the house where the arab docket massacre happened at about 12 45 am on a friday night. several intruders burst into that house they 'd were supposedly pretending to be border patrol and were dressed as bord

robert: shawna, you were there in singaporeuring the last summit.hat happens for the next one last month? shawna: the president wanted to do that summit and they made that summits happen f him. he has said he wants to do another one. reporting and what we're hearing from our international partners is that it's probablyng to be in vietnam. he has an entire infrastructure to make another one happen and clearly kim wants to do it as well. so i think s we'll another summit. i think the problem about what president trump vs. the intelligence was sing. also, what is actually true? should we believein anythat the ambassadors orse anyone tells them if the president is saying that? robert: what dimd you learn when you sat down with your colleague magui with the president in the oval office th week? is he isolated from his own intelligence officials? peter: he told us no. them in and everything turned out to be fine. the only problem was the, med of course, misinterpreted things.wh was fascinating is how he operates. he brings in coates, haspel, and he said i

i want to welcome shawna kaplan. shawna, a fifth grade student at providence elementary school in fairfax county, virginia. ms. paula patrick. this is a coordinator of world languages for fairfax county public schools. michelle dresdner the 2012 participant in the national security language initiative for youth program. mr. jeffrey wood was also a 2010 participate in the national security language initiative for youth program. and major gregory mitchell, a 1995 fellow over the david l.baron fellowship program. as you know, it is a custom of this committee to swear in all witnesses. so i ask you to please stand and raise your right hand. do you swear this testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you god? thank you. let it be noted that the record -- in the record that the witnesses answered in the affirmative. before we start, i wanted you to know that your full statement will be made part of the record. and i'd like to remind you to please limit your remarks to t

we discuss it all with amy walter of the cook political report, shawna thomas of vice news, carol leonnig, and philip rucker of "the washington post," and alexis simendinger of the hill. announcer: celebrating 50 years. this is "washington week." funding is provided by -- >> their leadership is instinctive. they understand the challenges of today and research the technologies of tomorrow. some call them veterans. we call them part of our team. >> additional funding is provided by -- newman's own foundation, donating all profits from newman's own food products to charity and nourishing the common good. the ethics and excellence in journalism foundation. koo and patricia yuen through the yuen foundation, committed to bridging cultural differences in our communities. the corporation for public broadcasting, and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. once again, from washington, moderator, robert costa. robert:good evening. president trump did not hold an end-of-the-year news conference and that's been a presidential tradition. but he did sit this week for a re

so shawna, will you please proceed with your statement? [ speaking foreign language ] i just said in chinese, hello, everyone. my name is shawna. i'm 11 years old. i'm in fifth grade at providence elementary school. i like chinese class very much because chinese class is fun. i have been taking chinese since the first grade which was the first year it was taught at my school. my teacher has been my teacher all five years. there's a second chinese teacher at my school who is teaching my little sister. i really like learning chinese. class is a lot of fun because we learn using a lot of games and activities that include everyone in the class that teach us new things. my regular teacher mrs. pratt told me sometimes they're teaching the same things at the same time. this year when we learned about ancient civilizations, she taught us about ancient china and ancient dynasties while we were learning chinese. i like that they go together. sometimes we even do math in chinese class. i want to keep learning chinese. i want to be fluent in chinese.

. >> reporter: both fit the bill. >> hello, my name is shawna.r: and after their one small step conversation, prove isay's point. >> shawna and i are one small step partners. >> reporter: they didn't spend time on policy differences. they focused instead on their shared love of faith, family, and plant-based diets. so the way our culture sees it, you two probably can't sit at the same table for 30 seconds, much less an hour. >> or we could. >> or we could. [laughter] >> and we did. >> and we are. >> and we shall. >> reporter: to frame the job that one small step has cut out for itself, consider this. in 2016, 47% of republicans considered democrats immoral. not close-minded, not dishonest -- immoral. and by 2022, that number was 72%. for democrats, 35% considered republicans immoral. by 2022, it was 63%. which is why he's brought one small step to this city of 200,000 on the banks of the chattahoochee river in western georgia. a crucial battleground state. >> we are gearing up for the moment after the election, which is going to be one of the mos

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>> reporter: so year after year, they sent shawna piles of pictures, and these bound books detailingjor and minor milestone, like this complete list of his vocabulary, all so that when shawna was ready and steven was ready, they could pick up right where they left off. the two reunited when steven was 7. shawna taught him how to fish, and they have been reeling in the memories ever since. >> i was blessed beyond words. >> i kind of got the best of both worlds for sure. >> reporter: steven is now 26, married with a brand-new boy of his own, much to the delight of grandma shawna. >> that was really special. it just brought that full circle around. >> reporter: especially when she heard the baby's name -- riley. >> oh. >> it felt like that name was just supposed to be in the family. >> i think the lesson we learned is that sometimes we create barriers where barriers don't need to be. and when we pull down those barriers, we really find love on the other side. >> reporter: since we first told this story, that love on the other side has continued to grow. the families spent thanksgiving a

at the time of her untimely death, shawna was a junior at eagle high school. she was a competitive figure skater and ice dancer and played the violin in her school orchestra. she even performed with the orchestra at new york's carnegie hall. she was also working to qualify for a congressional silver medal for public service, personal development and physical fitness. she aspired to attend stanford university and become a doctor. sadly, she lost her life in a car accident on her way home from orchestra practice. i first met shawna's parents, captain edward hill and his wife, heidi, in 2013 when i helped present them with a congressional bronze medal for their daughter had earned. while presenting the award, i learned that captain hill, who served as 28 years as a navy pilot and flew to protect america during three combat tours, had retired shortly before shawna's death. following the tragedy, captain hill was working with the navy to try to reassign his benefits to his second child, haley, who was also planning to attend college. with almost three decades of di

political commentator and host of "the ax files" and shawna thomas for vice news tonight. let's start back here at home what's happening with bill barr. shaw shawna, this will be the third investigation into the trump ties to russia and the origin of that investigation. we haven't heard the results of the other two. i don't even know what the status is of the other two but michael horowitz, the ig is supposedly on it and i guess reaching a conclusion at some point. not sure why we need john durham and a third investigation, but bill barr has ordered one. >> and the attorney general has said that we expect the ig report very, very soon, probably in june. so we will find out a little bit more about the origins of the investigation. but it is a little bit confusing that if the president wants to move on from this and the mueller report he says it didn't find any conspiracy in it and it didn't come to a conclusion on obstruction of justice, why keep calling attention to it? but then if you can turn it into a 2020 issue that you were attacked and they are trying to take this pr

. >>> shawna and george were married with a daughter and shawna was a popular casino employee.apart back in 2012. >> reporter: customers at the palms casino loved shawna tiafay. she made close to 100,000 a year as a glamorous cocktail waitress, as her sister paula recalls. >> always had the perfect hair. like a china doll. >> reporter: shawna met george at a casino where they both worked. he was an army man after graduating from west point and later becoming a las vegas fireman. george's sister maria. >> they are both hard working people. they are both good looking people. they made a lovely couple. >> reporter: they had a beautiful baby girl but as good as things were, after two happy years of marriage, shawna complained to her sister that george had become jealous, controlling, and critical of her. >> it was all those little things that built up over time. >> reporter: and shawna was uncomfortable when george brought a homeless man into their lives to do odd jobs around the house. friend stephanie vargas. >> she called him creepy. he is so creepy, why he is around my house? >

my name is shawna. i am 63 years old. >> and i am roxanne.nversation proof isay's point. >> shawna and i are one small step partners. >> reporter: they didn't spend time on policy differences. they focused instead on their shared love of faith, family, and plant-based diets. >> so the way our culture sees it, you two probably can't sit at the same table for 30 seconds, much less an hour. >> or we could. >> or we could. and we did. >> and we are. >> and we shall. >> reporter: to frame the job that one small step has cut out for itself, consider this. in 2016, 47% of republicans considered democrats immoral. not closed-minded, not dishonest, immoral. and by 2022 that number was 72%. for democrats 35% considered republicans immoral. by 2022 it was 63%. which is why he's brought one small step to this city of 200,000 on the banks of the chattahoochee river in western georgia. a crucial battleground state. >> we are gearing up for the moment after the election, which is going to be one of the most critical moments in history in terms of polarizati

just like shawna and roxane. what kind of shape are we in as a culture? >> hm...wever, the wound is where the law gets income and i hope this whole process here and many other processes are that light, and we just need to be open to it. >> reporter: for one small step, that would be a massive return. for "eye on america," i'm jim axelrod in columbus, georgia. >> norah: and that's tonight's "cbs evening news." our special coverage of the democratic national convention continues on cbs news 24/7 and here on cbs at 9:00 p.m. eastern. i' >> their dog just latched onto my dog's arm and started pulling. >> announcer: the pit bull was tenacious... >> i grabbed the dog and tried to put my thumb in its eye, and it let go. >> this man right here is viciously swinging on my dog and myself, and i'm telling him, "please, stop." >> no, i never -- never... >> announcer: ...but how low will her story go? >> judge judy: he demanded favors from you to make it all go away. i'm going to tell you something. he doesn't look crazy. >> announcer: "judge judy." you are about to enter the

shawna thomas is the washington bureau chief for vice news. ginger gibson is political correspondent for reuters. and jonathan allen's a digital reporter for nbc news. hard question to you, shawna, which requires some real interpretation. are they with trump because they really agree he's not kissing butt over there in helsinki or do they just agree with him all the time because they hate the media and the liberals? >> well, i think it's a little bit they hate the media and the liberals. but even nbc news's own poll, nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, said 88% of republicans approve of the job president trump is doing. >> his very being. >> the job he's doing. and if you believe the economy is getting better and the unemployment numbers are down and the stock market is doing okay and the trade thing hasn't affected you yet and what you vote on is the economy, then why wouldn't you stick with him? >> let me go to ginger. you give lip service to what happened in helsinki. if you're a business person. less regulation on the environment. i like

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look i received your luxury shawna had approval to g o t quite in that. maria, telephone talk when we see the meal he challenger, for he done with cheese. so in these, by tuesday, with their and for my cell which is so into the dish punch and void it for underneath that issue said i, i'm on way of you miss allgood it back, my bad a mil you know me to but i mean for the me oh no my i'll say by doing the same and nod merger doors. really you go ma'am of desilva, the more those noise it was on a visitor who back off leave the bill up there. there live with the left a supply. so i'm wanting to do with a few dollars left. and i said i was supposed to search for a phone for a resource to see the office. and i was putting went to patricia keller, sam and i was i called you star. how you love the day today, rather long before that come see that up for you. my please allow me somewhat than social media could come up. flash. no one either. oh, in a point there is a digital gas they're going to give me a little that i with the know my son a if you are calling to say

shawna made the tough decision to keep the baby. she gave birth to a baby girl. her child in an environment of love and safety. imagine her shock, then, when just a few months after her daughter's birth shawna was hit with a custody suit from the man who has raped her. the man who had took so much from shawna wanted to take her child, too. he wanted full custody. shawna said, quote, i was struck with terror not only with the idea of letting my child be around him, but also having to spend the next 18 years tied to him. but guess what? in pruitt's home state of missouri it was perfectly legal for her rapist to demand custody. and in 30 other states it is also perfectly legal. every year there are between 25 and 32,000 women in this country who get pregnant from rape. at least a third of them choose to keep and raise the children. but only 19 states have laws addressing parental rights for children conceived through rape. and even those come with major caveats. in idaho, for example, the state will only restrict visitation rights if the victim was a minor at the ti

eugene and shawna are here too. jeff, if you're michael cohen, representing michael cohen and you see this, what are you thinking? >> i think the message is clear that what is happening is the pardon power's morphing into if you have been charged with something similar to what michael cohen can be charged with, what flynn was charged with, what manafort was charged with, you may be getting a pardon. i think the message is, hey, guys, don't cooperate, stay low, eventually we can help you out. >> do you think it is that explicit the thought process in the president's mind ore sees folks on fox news, he hears his pals on the phone talking about this and he wants ton please the people around him? >> i think it's more likely to be those advising and supporting trump trying to help him realize he should stay calm and not have much to worry about. i would be surprised if trump had come to this conclusion on his own. but i think it's interesting when you look at the individuals pardoned that the period in the past, three pr

we discuss it all with michael crowder of politico, shawna thomas of vice news. alexis simendinger of the hill >> and john -- jonathan swan of axios. >> this is "washington week." funding is provided by -- their leadership is instincti. they understand the challenges of today and research the technologies of tomorrow. some call them veterans. he call them part of our team. >> additional funding is provided by -- newman's own foundation. donating all profits to charity and nourishing the common cood -- good. the excellence in journalism foundation. koo and patricia you you owen. the ewen foundations. the corporation of public broadcasting and from viewers like you, thank you. jers robert: good evening. the meddling by the russians into the trump election has dominated donald trump's presidency and today michael fliven became the first official to be charged. flynn pled guilty to lying to the fick about his dealings with the russians last december. flynn was forced to resign last february after he mess lid -- misled vice president pevens about a meeting he had with

and shawna is absolutely right. look at all these vice presidents of the past.there one black person? no. is there one woman who served as vice president? no. there's only been one traditional practicing catholic in the whole history of the vice presidency. doesn't mirror our glorious diversity. when you look through history, not only do a lot of these vice presidents in various ways become future presidents, for instance, every vice president since 1928 has explored the idea of running for president. so these are possible future presidents. but at the same time, one choice can change history. ronald reagan, at the last minute, put george h.w. bush, as you well know and remember, andrea. 1980, on his ticket. the result was that bush served for eight years as vice president, four years as president, and later on his son served for eight years, totally changed the whole history of the next 30 years. that could be happening today or tomorrow. >> and we also saw, of course, the kennedy/johnson, you know, partnership. we know how they were rivals. and joe biden has s

shawna you have played snow white for least 13 years. youandling the fact that this is the end? >> it's super sad of course and i had my moments of tears. most actors, their shows come to an en there is an end date. and we have been so lucky to be on this de, all of us who have been there whether it's one year to 25 to 30 years, we've all had this awesome steady job and now 're experiencing that real moment that most actors experience.'s he show closing. >> when the show debuted it was scheduled to run for -- >> sixweeks. >> and now here it is the longest running musical review in the world. why do u think it'senjoyed such longevity? >> people ask me. it's so good. i'm not just saying it because it's my show. it's veryev cr. we have the most talented people. it's visually beautiful and you know you're going to see something new. >> literally it changes every night. >> it changes as fast as we find something in the newhat we think the audience will think is relevant. it's really all about th audience. they determine whatoes in. >> is that

shawna: it does a couple of things. one of the things we did to bring everyone back to the table in 2013, 2005. , we the united states p a lot of sanctions on others, other banks and countries to punish them if they did deals with iran. one of the things w did was take some pressure off other countrieshao money cold flow and do the things that obama want told happenn iran. what the administration has said isre woing to put nose sanctions back on so companies like airbus have to decide, do we continue to do business with iran but lockes ourse out of the american financial market? most likely a company like airbus is going to say no, we probably need america. o let's ke going. it allowed basically iran to sell more oilo other parts of the world and the price of oil has already started going up because of even unrt whether or not president trump would pull out of the deal. now oil prices are going up. -- the up. until be people who feel that the pump but for the most part, the u.s. doesn't doot of business with iran in gen

shawna, the president out tweeting this morning about immigration. he says no more daca deal. is happening? >> well, number one, there wasn't really much of a daca deal, i think you can see especially from the appropriations process and omnibus that democrats didn't push it. republicans don't seem to have way to get there. also it's in courts, basically. he's pretty safe saying there's no daca deal because there wasn't. i think the other interesting thing he said that they need to go to the nuclear option which we have heard the president's say getting rid of basically the filibuster in congress in the senate. this is also something that senator mcconnell has said i'm not for that. i think this is stuff we've heard from the president before and this is how he's spending his easter. >> what's interesting, too, with no daca deal, wasn't just democrats that lost something in protecting young undocumented immigrants, but also the president. only got 1.6 billion for border wall he knows it. i think there's -- conservative base for him to get started as much as they pitched the idea

shawna, i am curious if you'll speak to that point. every president likes to own the positive and walk away from everything else in the country and the federal government does not literally control everything. but i think trump supporters and opponents would agree or be aware that donald trump has an approach to race and policing and civil rights in america. it's different than the obama administration. i think everybody knows that. there comes a disturbing question what leadership he is setting. i say that to get your response to the kenosha, wisconsin police chief making comments that are extreme if you think of the logic of them. i say it so viewers can think of it when you hear them. if somebody is arrested for killing people, they're the guilty party in the views of law enforcement and they get a trial. here we heard something different that seemed to play it down. take a listen. >> everybody involved was out after curfew. i'm not going to make a great deal of that. point is, curfew is in place to protect. had persons not been out

shawna and yamiche are here as well. frank, let's start with you. there are some real questions about what happens with chris wray. you've seen a lot of classified memos. explain why the fbi is so worried about this release and what you expect to see when it comes to potential redactions? >> yeah, so a couple of thoughts. first, we see the use of the word "grave" when the fbi and department of justice come out and say they have grave concerns about the release of that. there's significance in the word "grave" within the intelligence community. >> why, what does that mean? >> it's the word that's used when you define top secret. grave damage. top secret information is information if released that would cause grave damage to national security. it's also a word that's used when you conduct a damage assessment. you determine at the highest level whether there was grave damage. so there's a clue there that we're probably talking about top secret. with regard to what christopher wray might be doing, i've got to tell you something, i'm going to put politic

shawna, i know this is -- this is drawing now some bipartisan complaints.ave congressman carlos curbelo, republican from south florida, he was denied entry into one of these shelters earlier. he says hhs only said he didn't follow protocol. they're not making any -- they're not making any friends here, left or right. >> no, they're not making any friends. i think one of the things that's interesting is hhs secretary azar did a conference call yesterday. that's when this 3,000 number came out when everyone was like, wait a second, that wasn't what we thought the number was. what's really interesting is the guy in charge of the office of refugee resettlement, which is the one who is in charge of these kids who have been separated from parents or kids who come over by themselves, scott lloyd, who has been in the news before but not that much, no one is really asking like how is he doing this? now, i realize hhs is overall, but he is the guy who is in charge of figuring out what to do with these kids. congress has not called to talk to him. he is -- basically h

matthew continetti, shawna thomas and howard fineman. all right, guys, i want to share with you rudy giuliani who is paying his respects to john mccain on capitol hill. garrett haake caught up with him and he brought up the 60-day window. take a listen. >> the justice department has a rule that you should stay out of politically charged investigations within 60 days of the election. i hope he respects that. >> reporter: or what? >> or nothing. it just affects how people look at the legitimacy of his investigation. is it political or is it a real law enforcement investigation. >> all right. howard fineman, let me go through a few things here. first, here's what the inspector general in june of 2018 said. the 60-day rule is not written or described in any department policy or regulation. nevertheless, high-raning department and fbi officials acknowledged the existence of a general practice that informs department decisions. here's what the doj guidelines say. this is a minneapolis/st. paemo wrote. how about that. law enforcement officers a

>> reporter: shawna's ignoring corporations today. in fact, she's not planning on spending any money at all. >> i've been seeing it a lot over the last couple of days. i think the last 48 hours is where i've seen it a lot. >> reporter: shawna is participating in the economic blackout. participants are boycotting large corporations like starbucks and amazon for 24 hours friday. instead people are encouraged to go to small businesses, use cash only or not spend anything at all. >> if enough people come together, we can definitely make a difference. >> reporter: people's union usa is the grassroots group credited with the movement. the goal is to disrupt the economy and send a powerful message about what they call corporate greed. john schwarz, the founder, posted social media videos asking people to hold the line. >> because the truth is simple. we, the people, are the economy. without us nothing moves. without us there is no profit. >> reporter: but the impacts of the 24-hour boycott aren't certain. julian vogel, a finance professor at

shawna thomas, tamera keith, thank you both. "politics >> you're welcome. >> woodruff: tonight at 9:00 p.m. right here on most pbs stations, "independent lens" tells the story of this country's historically black colleges. jeffrey brown is here with a preview. >> brown: "tell then we are rising" is the story of the nation's historically black colleges and universities commonly known as h.b.c.u.s. the film charged thedir rise an pivotal role as generationing of professional and middle class african-americans and looks at thats to their continued prominence and even in some stence.xi stanley nelson is the film's director. welcome. >> thank you so much. >> brown: why take is on? i godfathe -- i gather it's at t partly personal. >> my parents went to hbcus. there's no way they would have gone to college if it wasn't for hbcus.ed hbcus chahe trajectory of their lives, my life and will change my kids lives down trough the generations. so it's importa me. >> brown: in the film it says the question for african-americans has always been what is the purpose of educat