obviously if you have stairs over a living space you have to water proof the stairs -- waterproof the stairs but a lot of energy is being spent trying to get exterior stairs waterproof when you could just let the water flow through. some of the stairs you're showing are good examples of those. >> we have another shot in a minute. here's somebody's exterior deck and stairs which they've been -- a couple of rails have been replaced. i want to point out, by the way, that the spacing between the guard rails on this deck or guards, as they're now called, are pretty wide and don't need the mod -- meet the modern codes which they forum maximum space and it's easy to accomplish that before building a giant new stair and deck by using some kinds of fencing, whether it's metal fencing which you can buy at any hardware store or plastic fencing. just put it up and over the years renters and building owners have been held responsible to meet the standards of today's safety, especially for decks and stairs. so for those of you who have rental units, i encourage you to upgrade your stairs and your s

those are wood stairs in a wood

>> if you're rebuilding the stair, if you're starting from scratch and going to put the stairs in, you want to put the stairs in first and you have two options. one is to put the stairs in first and run a regularlet around the stairs that the stucco comes down to. a reglet is an l-shaped piece of metal that you're waterproofing for the stucco that goes behind distribute stucco goes on top of. it's a piece of flashing and that follows -- they'll make it -- it follows the curves and the whole edge of the stairs. and so you can put that on there, the stucco paper comes down there and you would stucco on top that have after and then you have a little caulk joint that is just something you have to maintain. it's not critical, that goes between the reglet and president stair. that will keep the stucco from cracking. >> here's an example of why we need to maintain a distance clearance between the dwround and the siding. you see this wood siding goes right down to the concrete sidewalk and it's rotting at the bottom. that rot is just going to run up through the wood and into the framing behind

that stairs in the line of the building as typically stairs do as they are the normal type of stair, and in addition to that we had a project very similar i think in the marina, where people spoke about these things and mostly made out of steel and noisy. if there are children going up and down the stairs it becomes a nuisance and i find it from an elevation point of view out of character with the building and i would like to suggest that particular aspect of the building is re-examined including a verification with the fire department that this type of stair is permitted. the reason we were given, and i cannot tell if it was one year, two year, three years ago and particularly for elderly coming with pizza shape stair on a circular stair that created an element of lack of safety because you're not fully stepping on the riser that is the reason why this city was not allowing circular stairs anymore, and i might have it completely wrong. we might have gone back to the uniform building code and allowing it again. at that time those were the instructions given to us and i thought they w

if you walk down the old stairs or side stairs and all of that land adjacent to those stairs belongs to the city and you will see a gate with the wood and you will see a gate and they are always see through and open. they cannot put a barrier up for the people to realize that is not where it should go. and that is the kind of stairway that is allowed. by the dpw. and that is kind of the gate that is allowed by the dpw and they keep it locked and it does not allow the people to come down. anybody that looks at the side of this plan will see that the stairway that goes down on the side of the house is not a wide stairway with lighting or railings and made for the public use. i don't have to do the public use stairway. it is just the right way to do it. and opening up access to the land is a good thing to do. that is what it has been from the beginning it has never changed from the very first presentation six years ago not one time. >> except that it was made smaller. >> i guess that the they mentioned that the stair stairs that have been a public stair all wait through the site we woul

the wooden exterior stairs, the older ones, you need to keep them painted and sealed. you can't let the water be seeping in. the south side where you hit the sun, that's what breaks down the caulking and the sealant paint. you need to pay particular attention and you may only be able to paint your house every five, six, seven years. the stare assembly, every two years. >> if you do that, it will be -- if we look at a house like this, it could be an even more significant problem where everything is hidden behind a thin coat of stucco. and there could be wood in there as well. >> you may find if you take the stucco off, you'll find the old wood stair and they just said we don't want the -- because this is a beautiful victorian that have been butchered by stuccoing it. i've taken it off one of my houses and you'll find juned 'neath the front stairs, the old hand rail and they just covered it and stuccoed-over-over it and say now it looks like a modernized building. >> yeah. >> now you hire people to take the stuff off and put the gingerbread back on. >> could you talk abo

i have not received any information on the back stairs. i am concerned about the lead paint because those exist. we have not been informed about anything regarding that. i do not know if we need to move out of the building or not when the back of it is demolished. i am in the dark about that problem. i concern is priorities. and doing the right thing. >> is there any other public comment? we will move into rebuttal. >> i do not have a rebuttal. i have to agree that it is a case of priorities and doing the right thing. this picture was taken today. the drawings they will use, i would think that a lot of things have changed in 10 years and perhaps -- this is a typical thing. why not take a new look at it. there may be new technology we can use. it is a typical measure, do the cheapest thing or nothing at all to her bathroom. this is how it is today. i am not against putting in the stairs but other things can be remedied first and should be. this is proper and the right and nice thing to do. >> the contract we have with our contractor include

the public stairs from the sight line of the windows above those stairs from the proposed buildings. short of using a parascope where you could look down in front of those window and look down at the 90 degree angle. so safety has decreased by this building in terms of eyes on the street. the public stairs will move all of the direct sunlight and be placed in the shadow. and we ask the board seriously to consider the impacts of the proposed project as they relate to proposition m and deny this project. thank you. >> thank you, mr. sanchez? >> good evening, commissioners i'm constructional engineer for the project. i have been practicing it in san francisco for over 28 years and i must say that i am extremely proud of my association with renardo and he is a brilliant architect and the professor of architecture. and this design fits perfectly within that wedge. and we are committed to repairing and maintaining and landscaping the comment ride away of the stairs in perpetuity and we are designing a four unit building and family housing and some speakers brought up the fact that why buil

stairs are stairs are scarce. there are many ways to design stairs.ould like the planning department to track that because there are possible ways to treat it in an architectural way that is compatible an interesting. that does not affect the motion or the position the commissioner is taking on it. but i would like to pose it as a challenge looking ahead. commissioner antonini: i can certainly understand the d.r. requester her's -- the d.r. requester's concerns. it does not sound like there are a lot of options on this assuming that the stairs are not repairable. i have been in some of these buildings, and in recent days, i go very slowly down is a because they are very steep and you could have an accident really easily if you are not careful. i would think the run would be more gradual on the new stairs. i do not think there is too much we can do on this other than not take d.r. unless it is found out that there is a way to repair the existing stairs. >> the motion on the floor is to not take discretionary review and approve the project as proposed.

leading to the twin peaks stairs and heavily used by people and animals. my apartment is one of the six windows facing the green space and i see in here the people and animals all of the time. the twin peaks nature area they traverse between the residential side and the twin peaks as it is now the green area next to the vista lane offers a retreat for the animals should they encounter people on the stairs, the 70 press line green provides public safety for both