you will hear from alessandra stanley as well as frank bruni. this took place in fairfield university in connecticut to read it is about an hour and 20 minutes. >> soon we will be meeting two distant wished journalists "the new york times," ms. alessandra stanley and mr. frank bruni. we understand the very long ripple effects and reverberations of "the new york times," which extends so deeply into our nation's history, 1851. it is red on five continents, as we say all the news that is fit to print, in the digital world all the news that is fit to click. to be honest, rush limbaugh explains, i can only read a few paragraphs in a "new york times" story before i puke. well, last summer i was watching a rerun of a charlie rose special and the editor of "the new yorker" was speaking about the media in america, and remnick talked about his career. he had spent 10 years at the "washington post." for the past 22 years he has been the editor of "the new yorker." he said, "new york times" has been the greatest competitor of my entire professional career. h

stanley was an amateur poet himself, a man who enjoyed dirty limericks. he and frank davis would hang out together. stanley was very conscious of having a grandson who was half black, and stanley went out of his way to introduce his , barry, at the time to frank davis. frank davis was really the first adult african-american male who he knew. again, someone the age of a grandfather, they never became as close as barack did to jeremiah wright 20 years later, but barack as a young man when he is in high school and college is writing poetry or trying to write poetry. there is no question that frank -- have somef formative impact on barack. he no more news that davis had been a commonest -- communists in the 1940's than he knew that bill ayres, a good friend in chicago had been involved in planting bombs. barack in neither instance is a ,eflection upon who barack is what people had done years earlier. >> do you remember if frank marshall took photographs of barack's mother? >> that's an allegation that is out there. i believe it is without foundation. >> there are pictures

please join me in welcoming, from the new york times, andalessandra stanley mr. frank bruni. [applause] >> well, let's hear what and ms. stanley have to say. and i think frank bruni is going now. to the podium all yours. >> hello, everybody. night. i mean, good evening. good night. yeah. i brought my pillow with me. coming.or it's a pleasure to be here. i want to thank rush for that compliment. sometimes when i feel the need a purgative, i listen to his radio show. i was asked to say a little bit times,y career at the which isn't so different from alessandra's. we're both people who have bounced around a lot. in my now almost 20 years there, me to give that figure, because it means i'm getting on in years, i have been reporter on the metropolitan desk. i have covered a campaign, bush's first presidential campaign, i covered the beginning of his white house. from san francisco. i have been the chief restaurant critic for five years. the magazine. for this follows years earlier when i was a movie critic. my little brother likes to say that i don't have a career; i have an attent

stanley, and mr. frank bruni. we understand the very long ripple effects and reverberations of "the new york times," which extends so deeply into our nation's history, 1851. it is red on five continents, as we say all the news that is fit , in the digital world, all the news that is fit to click. to be honest, rush limbaugh explains, i can only read a few paragraphs in a "new york times" story before i puke. well, last summer i was watching a rerun of a charlie rose special and the editor of "the new yorker" was speaking about the media in america, and remnick talked about his career. he had spent 10 years at the "washington post." for the past 22 years he has been the editor of "the new yorker." he said, "new york times" has been the greatest competitor of my entire professional career. he said to charlie rose, i think nation's times" is the most important privately held institution. i thought about that. think about what you would lift as a treasurer, what is privately owned in the united states, and that is wha

stanley was an amateur poet himself, a man who enjoyed dirty limericks. he and frankavis would hang out together and stanley was a very conscious of having a grandson who is half black and stanley went out of his way to introduce his grandson, barry, to frank davis. and barack, for barack, frank davis was the first adult african-american male whom he knew. again, the age of a grandfather. they never became as close as barack did to jeremiah wright 20 years later, but barack, as a young man in high school and college, is trying to write poetry. there is no question that frank davis did have some impact on barack. but, barack no more new that frank marshall davis had actually been a communist in the 1940's than he knew that bill ayers had been involved in planting bombs. barack in neither instance -- it is not a reflection on who barack is, what people had done earlier. brian: frank marshall davis took photographs of barack obama's mother. david: no -- that's an allegation that is out there. i believe it to be entirely without foundation. brian: they are pictures on the

stanley and mr. johnk bruni. [applause] >> let's hear what mr. frank bruni and his stanley have to say. ing to go to the podium now. >> hello everybody, good night. i mean good evening. i brought my pillow with me. it is a pleasure to be here. i want to thank you for the compliment and i want to say sometimes when i feel the need i listen to his radio show. [laughter] i was asked to stay a little bit about my career at the times which isn't so different. we are both people that have bounced around a lot. in my now almost 20 years, which horrifies me because it means i'm getting on in my years. i've been a religion reporter on the metropolitan desk and i've covered a campaign and i covered the beginning of his white house. i reported from san francisco -- the restaurant critic for five years. i've written for the magazine. this follows years earlier and my little brother likes to say that i don't have a career i have in attention deficit disorder and that is true. but i believe strongly going through life and gathering as many experiences as possible. when i got into journalism my notion

chief television critic alessandra stanley and op-ed columnist frank bruni were part of a panel discussion at fairfield university in connecticut. this is one hour 20 minutes. >> soon we will be meeting to distinguished journalists, in fact two from the times. ms. alessandra stanley and mr. frank bruni. we all understand the very long ripple effects and the reverberations of "the new york times" which extends so deeply into our nation's history, 1851, the good gray lady has been published in all those years and, of course, is right on five continents as we sick of all the news that's fit to print, albeit today in the new digital world, all the news that is fit to click. to be honest, rush limbaugh explained, i can only read a few paragraphs in a "new york times" story before i puke. [laughter] well, last summer i was watching a rerun of a charlie rose for special, and editor of "the new yorker," david remnick, was speaking about the media in america, and david remnick talked about his career. it spent 10 years at the "washington post." for the past 22 years has been the editor of "the new

i am peter akwaboah and we are morgan stanley. frank is a fan of fast. he's a fast talker.ry. and for unexpected heartburn... frank is a fan of pepcid. it works in minutes. nexium 24 hour and prilosec otc can take one to four days to fully work. pepcid. strong relief for fans of fast. >>> flying taxis, well, this may seem futuristic, but it is closer than you think. i don't know if i'm cool with that, but it is. archer aviation is working to transport passengers through electric air taxi services using ev toll, an acronym for electric vertical takeoff and landing. the vision is it will allow people to bypass crowded highways in an emission freeway. i guess i am ready for that, though. united airlines putting down a $10 million deposit to purchase 100 of the flying taxis. joining us now to discuss is the founder and ceo of archer aviation, adam goldstein. okay, adam, tell us about this. how soon will we see this actually a reality if ever? >> thanks for having me on the show. so, archer's building electric vertical takeoff and landing aircraft that we're going to use in what

stanley and frank of pennsylvania. when it comes to the embodiment of the st.ause ] we go to commercial, it's me, coastel, lasorda, and all of a sudden i hear in my headset, and lasorda has tears coming down his eyes, and he looks over and tommy, what's the problem. he's got the toupee and yellow jacket, cigar. and he said howard, he was such a -- i loved him. one of my dearest friends. what a eulogy. what a tribute. nobody can do it like you, right? cosell says -- leans back and goes, hey, tommy. just remember one thing. kenny boyle was a prick. [ laughter ] [ applause ] the one and only howard. he's got about 19 pages -- >> jimmy: so many great stories about him. >> oh, my god, what a great night. >> jimmy: talking about the miracle on ice, which is the greatest moment in american sports history. certainly not in russia. but -- you call that game, and it's such a -- such an incredible moment. you told the story, and the story behind the game might even be more amazing than the game itself. >> yeah. that game started at 5:00 in the afternoon. and it was over i

then there are four who were not very well, stanley reed, frank murphy, james burns and you know, burnsfrom south carolina and he wasos because in the fall of 1942, fdr to him come work with me in the white house. you'll be the assistant president overseeing the domestic economy and burns left the supreme to join fdr in the white and the fourth justice in this category of lesser kjustics was wiy rutledge, who was appointed to be burns's replacement. and then the tjustices who werey appoted fdr and are only two in this category. one of them was harlan fiske Üstone, who had been appointed n 1925 by calvin coolidge, his amherst college buddy, and as i mentioned, fdr elevated him to be chief jusce summer of 1941. and it's very clear that fdr d e mindedly focused and preparing the country for war, which thought was inevitable and. so he was trying to project by part us and shape as much as possible as, i'm sure you know, the country very divided in 1941. and there was a strong wanted to send signals of bipartisan sonship. and so he loved the idea of elevatingnevk this republican appointee, t

frank dinardo. peter thomas stanley dicks. >> scott marsh corey. david scott gorski. michael joseph doyle.as fisher 4 rebecca. clayton flick. john patrick flynn. arthur, robert jared fortune. stacy denise franklin. paul matthew stephen friedman. >> cara reagan. james ralph buller. robertin, gabor, alan gallagher, matthew cannon gannon. tennis raymond. paul isaac garrett. kenneth james gibson. william david junior. all of leonora gordon. linda susan gordon. madeleine, loretta and gordon-. >> david j goals. andrzej nikolai, nicole james, lorraine francis walsh. lynn carol, pamela elaine herbert, rodney peter hilbert, alfred hill, catherine augusta hollister for josephine hudson. christina hudson. miriam hudson. >> we remember them. elizabeth sophie, jafar, robert been, paula jeffries, rachel jeffries, kathleen mary german, and johnson, mary alice lincoln johnson, syracuse university, i represent keisha wyden, her boyfriend, timothy baron johnson, christopher andrew jones, julian francis kelly, j joseph. we remember them. patricia and klein. is to for -- christopher lac h lacochi lacochier. r

tenants of president obama's political philosophy, i would like to go back to it stanley drum and his interaction of frank marshall davis to barack obama. how did that occur? >> striking. it took place in 1970. obama at that point would have been nine years old. the grandfather, stanley dump, is looking for a black male role model, father figure to mentor his grandson because the father, at that point, barack obama's father was out of the picture. of all people that he would pick , you or i if we were to pick a mentor for a son or grandson we might pick a boy scout troop leader or little league coach, football coach. i don't think we would take an actual liberal, and i mean liberal, no exaggeration, card-carrying member of communist party usa to grow pro-soviet cup propaganda and communist party publications. lou: clearly establish the relationship between young obama, how long that's relationship lasted? >> it lasted throughout the 1970's. obama countries for my father, talks about the parting advice that he got before leaving to go to college from frank marshall davis. and that, which obama quotes a

we will always remember the 49 , stanley ward, frank, jorge reyes, er luis, velyn tomlinson, rivera, rero, eric peter gonzalez cruz, luis s. vielma, kimberly morris, eddie justice. darrell roman bert iii, dionke ayton, anthony luis loriano, john carlos mendez perez, luis martinez n, amanda, enitez torres, jerald arthur wright, corey james connel, rodolfo,, luis fernandez, leroy jason benjamin josefat, frank rnandez, akira murphy, mercedes, gilberto menendez, imon fernandez, oscar a. montero, enrique rios, miguel angel, juan p. rivera velazquez, juan chavez martinez, tevin eugene crosby, jonathan vega, christopher paul henry, liz, oel manuel, john c. nieves padro, z, ilmary, angel antonio brown, alejandro martinez. just think about how long it took me just to reference all those names and it gives you just a glimpse of the carnage and the death that happened that day, but we will always remember them. r. speaker, there is something rotten in the city of washington. there is an injustice brewing in this capitol, and there is a sinister plot of foot in this congress. on the one hand, we

. >> both jamie diamond ceo of jp morgan, the same from morgan stanley, citi bank said we're better, safer since dodd-frankthere are the mid-size banks that want changes. so changes. not necessarily tear up the script. >> yeah. and let's just tell you a little bit about one of the things this new build does. it -- by the way, we're not sure this bill is likely to get through the senate at all, it gets the consumer protection bureau. it was started by elizabeth warren. she was supposed to be the head but she became a senator. it was set up by dodd-frank. supervisors the consumer lending industry and designed to protect consumers. >> literally the consumers. this is the agency that then punished wells fargo from their marketing scam, though, it was journalists, it was financial journalists from the l.a. times that were the first to notice it. yes, these agencies need to be better, smarter, more streamlined. so the question is what's the actual plan? it cannot be let's do away with it. when you do away with it, you know what the financial industry does, pushes and pushes and pushes. >>> we have to move on, be

then there are four who were not very well, stanley reed, frank murphy, james burns and you know, burns had been a senator from south carolina and he was only on the court for 14 months because in the fall of 1942, fdr to him come work with me in the white house. you'll be the assistant president overseeing the domestic economy and burns left the supreme to join fdr in the white and the fourth justice in this category of lesser known justices in the fdr appointees was wiley rutledge, who was appointed to be burns's replacement. and then the third group is the justices who were not initially appointed by fdr and are only two in this category. one of them was harlan fiske stone, who had been appointed in 1925 by calvin coolidge, his amherst college buddy, and as i mentioned, fdr elevated him to be chief justice in 1941. in the summer of 1941. and it's very clear that fdr did so because he was a single mindedly focused and preparing the country for war, which thought was inevitable and. so he was trying to project by part us and shape as much as possible as, i'm sure you know, the country

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frank financial reform law. bank of america, j.p. morgan, morgan stanley all up about two and a half%.lth care stocks up after romney recommitted to repealing obamacare. leading the sector of more than 3 percent, and the governor's support giving the sector a lift today. up nearly 8%. alpha natural resources, peabody, consol energy also appeared on the date. the market could have been just reacting to a recent economic news, the jobless benefits of 3,607,000 last week. lower than estimates. one day before tomorrow's september unemployment report. factory orders came in better than forecast, but still fell more than 5%, the biggest decline in more than three years the kind of world we live in now, that was actually better than what had been expected. retail chain stores reporting september sales above wall street expectations. oil up more than 4% on middle east supply concerns. crew selling at 9171. gasoline prices in california reaching record highs due to fuel shortages caused by a pipeline shutdown. well, excuse me one second year. forgive me. president obama hitting the campaign tra

. >> good morning, frank >> what do you make of jpmorgan chase and morgan stanley saying short sellingrket >> the sentiment and options market, frank, has shifted as well i would call it an inflection point from the beginning of september. a few months ago, folks could not buy call options fast enough in the magnificent seven everyone had to jump in the pool at that point in time,that was the pain trade now the pain trade is on the down side. you see that in the options in mega cap tech sucked out you are seeing it specifically in the bearishness in the put options. specifically when you look at mega cap tech, you see that in apple. >> interesting i have data from estery partners year to date, short sellers have lost $127 billion. i know the bear sentiment is rising, but in your mind, what are the dynamics that changed this with the short selling? >> it has been painful the another stat i have for you is last year when you looked at owning or hedging, the market has drawn down you managed 20% in the put buying hedges haven't worked and it is painful. when you try to protect yourself me

one, tracking toward the cup, oh, yeah in for an eagle, moves stanley within one shot of the lead, tied for fourth at 15 under. on 18, frank lick lighter, ii, needing to train this birdie putt on 18 to take the lead into the clubhouse. he does some finishes the turn it. minus 16. still guys on the course. in particular this guy. tommy gainy on three. nickname is "two-glove tommy," sure you can understand why second shot, on the green. just misses going in. woe tap in for birdie. needing a birdie to win, knocks it in, shoots 6-under, wins with the prince georges county open by one stroke, 17 under, first nationwide tour of victory. >>> ten knicks only man standing in the way of rafael nadal's fifth french open title, robin seweder ling, same man who defeated nadal last year, first career loss in parry, posed for an awkward photo. that wasn't awkward, beyonce and jay-z, looking good. facing break point, to the net, check out this sweet drop shot. oh, that was nice. he is pumped. nadal wins the second shot. championship point now, nadal near court, serving for the title, seweder ling, nice return, back to seweder ling. >> see

all facts that weren't clear until stanley nelson spent years investigating frank morris's death.he talked to witnesses and went through old police reports. what he found shocked him. >> the more you dug, the more you realize there were some really bad people here. what happened then were happening now, well, the murders and beatings and whippings that were going on we would be terrified. >> but what's happening here is not unusual. across the deep south there are 70 unsofd murder cases most of them brutal and racially motivated. >> we have justice. it may be a long time coming but it's getting there. >> for frank lee, who remembered his murder. >> at least somebody find it, lest see what happened to this man and who was responsible and now the world knows who frank morris was, they no what kind of person he was and have some idea who was responsible. >> despite fresh efforts to investigate these so-called cold cases it's unlikely many people will be brought to justice. witnesses are dying, memories fading and perpetrators taking their secrets to the grave. but the memory of frank

stanley. always a pleasure, george. thanks. thank you, frank.n extreme heat this week. in fact, those winds have been picking up at least in the backyard here with winds. lisa gusting over 20 miles an hour over the past few minutes for at least for me. also, i've seen those reports out towards portions of debate, shoreline and the coast as well. we have been reporting on new fire up in northern california, this one being called the dixie fire up in butte county. you could see the current weather conditions out there currently 85 degrees around the fire zone. this is northeast of paradise winds out the west, at least of this site around 14 miles an hour and relative humidity around 27% so it is warm. it is a dry and it's also pretty a breezy right around that fire zone. now we have been tracking that deeper marine life. are a bit closer to home. that marie layer has been right around 2000 ft. just over 2000 ft. and that is leading to at least mild to warm forecast. no major heat and kind of hold on to this pattern into your thursday. in fact, tom

since dodd-frank, james gorman of ceo of morgan stanley did something else, went to less risky businesses different horizon. >> asset management, wealth management, more stable and secure. their market cap is going up. there were rocky times along the way. clearly his bet paid off. goldman sachs, this is the esternnal question of goldman, do they have a business model issue? a lot of analysts i talk to say yes. dodd-frank, if it changes is not going to allow them to go back to the old goldman sachs, the wheeling and the dealing in the markets. it will still be a lot of handcuffs what they do. they will have to buy an ashe is set manager or try to expand out in asset management. can you buy an asset manager. liz: real winner in morgan stanley was asset management. >> does goldman sachs go out and buy charles swab. that is a big question. liz: you asked that before. >> if you talk to analysts they need something like that. something like that is not cheap. goldman has a lot of money, they have cash that is big purchase. check the market cap of charles schwab, i don't think it is 85 billion

. >> joining me now is morgan stanley chief wealth analyst. >> good morning, frank. >> i'm not goingof paraphrasing jamie dimon. >> they're priced for the soft landing. >> what does it mean going forward? it sounds if anything happens, we could see a selloff or a dip. do you agree we need everything to go right to keep the rally going? >> i think that's the case. as soon as the fed starts communicating it may start to cut rates, the market prices in the entire rate cutting path. in one sense, the fed needs to deliver that. what if the fed does not deliver that? >> what do you mean? 25 basis points or if they only do 25? >> the entire path. the fixed income market is placing a 40% probability that the next cut could be 50 basis points. i don't think the fed is particularly going to die in battle over whether it's 25 or 50 if the data point is weakening. in terms of the entire path could get into the cutting cycle, the market has priced that in. let's say the economy does better than expected and the fed cuts, but doesn't cut as far as markets are pricing, you have to have yields come

frank. we heard from stanley fischer over the weekend. we have an update on stronger growth.umbers tell you? >> if i am the governor, i can still say that confidence moved forward -- see that confidence has moved forward. into the bloomberg chart. gdp.n look at japan what we had here was peace in exports, capital spending, expansion -- that turquoise line is japan's gdp. it is not growing as fast. our tracker suggests that we could see more deceleration. let's look at what happened in the fourth quarter. consumer spending unchanged. i think the governor would like to see people pick up their spending, but there is still a little more uncertainty about the future. business spending up a full percent. these are quarter on quarter numbers, not yearly. exports were- net up 2.2%. is the japanese economy has grown four quarters in a row. a weak ego -- and then there is a weak yen. with this much growth, no chance of easing. at these weekend talks, shinzo abe and donald trump are knowledge aimed that japan is going to maintain its monetary policy easing commitment. no pushing back a

frank hanrahan. brought to you by xfinity. >> all right, count down is now 11 games for the caps to win the stanley cup. 1-0 series lead afteric overtime win in game one on thursday against the pittsburgh penguins. my man, d.j. oshie with the hat trick. game two is later on tonight. about an hour and 45 away. caps trying to defend home ice. they certainly know the pens will have a sense of urgency to not fall down two games in this best of seven series. filling up process. but both teams, you listen to mike on his side. they want to just play. play their game. i'm saying the same thing. we may not articulate it or express it the same, but i want my team to play our game and he wants them to play their game. >> it is all about building through the draft. that is the new redskins way with second year gm scott practicing what he preaches. skins drafted a wide receiver with the first round pick the other night. but for now, it is in scott we trust. redskins introing some of their draft picks out at fedex field today. and the team's draft party including wide receiver josh out of tcu. >> i drafted higher than i expected. i really

i feel a lot safer that we have critics like frank bruni and alessandro stanley out there.i want to thank everyone for being here to our national audience on c-span. we want to say good night from fairfield university and please remember, in november, on a election day, to please vote. thank you all from fairfield university. thank you. [applause] >> very nice. ♪ >> you are so great. >> both the house and senate return today after a week-long break. both chambers start work at 2:00 p.m. eastern. the house will consider a number of bills today including one that would require the department of homeland security to include electromagnetic pulse events in the national planning scenarios. votes in the house scheduled for 6:30 p.m. following votes, members of the congressional black caucus will make floor speeches about the ferguson grand jury decision live on c-span. senate members will give general speeches until 5:30 and cast procedural votes for ambassadors to argentina and hungary with final votes possible tomorrow morning. congress has until december 11th to fund the feder

financial crisis in dodd-frank and all of that, there is a reason for the world at large not happy with banks and nonbanks i became bengs. morgan stacks, go -- -- goldman sachs, morgan stanley. many go through the pandemic in the banking stands up and stabilizes the economy, it goes through the regional banking crisis in the banking system stabilizes and you keep adding capital and critically -- and liquidity, you think, we are sources. the american bank industry is really a source of strength. the pendulum kept swinging. the reason it had swung, have stopped. to our industry would say, why do we have 20% more capital than we did during the pandemic, the risk isn't the same and by mathematical calculations. david: when people talk about the federal reserve, they wonder whether the fed will increase interest rates or decrease interest rates. but in the banking committee you are often worried about the stress test. you think the fed has pushed stress tests to too tough a limit on banks or are you ok with the current stress test? brian: the stress tests are publicly available and i think the first one was 2010 and then picked up to 112, so every year you could see this report

frank. morgan stanley, the stock has been terrible and even though i can question why that is so cheap.want citi. they want corbat. >> at least they want him now. ? they want him now. >> as we said, a busy morning and busy week shaping up. why did one wall street analyst say he got cold feet when buying a samsung galaxy phone. also following the money flows, why does job's friday fit in. >> take one more look at futures. as you know in general, monday's not terribly positive so far this year, but we are looking at a live open. more "squawk" at post 9 when we more "squawk" at post 9 when we return. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 when the spx crossed above its 50-day moving average, meeting this as the company's 787 dream liner on back in service. ethiopian airlines flew it earlier this year. pre-market shares of boeing are pulling back a bit and they've been at 52-week highs and phil lebeau will interview james mcnerney later today. >> they weathered the storm one would say, jim. >> not bad. >> never waiver. people don't understand, this is an engineering company and they always seem to think that