shortly max a car is a sounds the alarm on what he says is a moving threat of a new credit bubble that mr kaiser reports here in just a few minutes time. as his day starts at five am even earlier in the winter tending to his flock of story hundred sheep in the mountains and pains of. thirty five years old it was a life he jumped over having studied accounting but he dition unfamiliar dictated that he would take on the care of these animals after his father. he's just made camp at their winter farm stage setting up his ute the traditional two vini and round tent made of diskin. his p.c. back amongst his family and his job is a lonely one and tough going out in a way there's braving extremes of plus to minus forty degrees celsius it's just that i'm with them there are certain difficulties there's not enough time for everything i'm almost alone my sister works with my mother my mother is seventy five she's very old and i miss mountains when i'm in town and i spend a lot of time here. so all most of us is simply carrying out the work that his father did and his father before him nothing has changed

mr. kaiser was yon had time and energy to use but -- bair and tables she had the maker once. tell her to lasso the but. i told them not to move furniture. ordinary drama made for a pleasant distraction after the meeting she made her rounds coming across the teacher worried about turning down the fish tank due to drought conditions. there is a living thing in their. [laughter] so the next passage something that should never have to happen. a few months later anabel has rounded up some of her best students to go to the middle school. it was like scores are coming up and they need to show the middle school students they have a reason to come to reagan high. this will also include at the start athlete at the school at the time now at i was stay on a football scholarship. anabel hurried out to the bus where the band had a solid rhythm going. she counted heads. first athlete turned up in sandals. where are your shoes? i don't have any he said. you will wear mine. what size? fourteen. she passed around fliers of the electives we have every sport except swim team. we need us when tea

mr. kopp? ms. kaiser? >> i frankly think that even as mr. kopp would stipulate to the term domestic violence, that would not make car of evidence irrelevant or cumulative because it is not really the term that controls, it is the act we are trying to show and the significance of the act. we believe that the act is a true act of domestic violence as placed within properly understood within the context that was supplied by nancy lyman and again by linnette peralta haynes. i have to agree with mr., bu ko that whether we leave that, neither of us really want that. we want you to understand and explore the significance of the act. to do that, we are permitted to submit this relevant evidence, and it is relevant. >> ok, but what fact in dispute are using miss florez's testimony to help prove? >> we are trying to prove that this is not an insignificant -- >> ok, i don't want descriptive words. i want what fact, the actual piece of evidence, the thing that happened that will -- that this will help us decide. >> well, it will help you determine wheth

kaiser? mr. kopp or mr. wagner, do you have a response? -- or mr. maggonerwaggoner, do u have a response? >> our response is founded upon the fact that we have a very different view of what the duties of the sheriff are then the mayor appears to have. we take more of a literal list or strict constructionist approach -- literalist or strict constructionist approach. we believe the duties are spelled out in the charter, which is why we did not object to that portion. the rest of what acting sheriff hennessy has to tell you will be irrelevant to your determination of whether what he is charged with doing constitutes official misconduct and is related to the specific duties enumerated in the charter. much of the is an enlargement of those core duties. that is the basis for our objection. chairperson hur: any questions for mr. kopp from the commissioners? thank you, mr. kopp. >> may i respond? chairperson hur: no. i understand the parties have a different view whether and to what degree the actions in this case relate to the sheriff's duties. given that

mr. kopp? ms. kaiser? >> i frankly think that even as mr. kopp would stipulate to the term domestic violence, that would not make car of evidence irrelevant or cumulative because it is not really the term that controls, it is the act we are trying to show and the significance of the act. we believe that the act is a true act of domestic violence as placed within properly understood within the context that was supplied by nancy lyman and again by linnette peralta and again by linnette peralta haynes.

mr. kopp and ms. kaiser and the commissioners to express their views. >> my only comment is this goes along with my objection to that bullet point that still i do not think has been ruled upon. sheriff mirkarimi's post december 31 through january 13 statements, january 4 statement. -- statements. i do not see the relevance. >> i would like to address the two portions that are encompassed your separately. >> ok. >> the this one -- first one is ms. lopez's statement. 1523157, i -- 152 through 157. it goes to the victim was the credibility and finds that she is recanting. she is describing things that suggest the testimony you heard was a recantation rather than finally getting to the truth. i think this is relevant for the direct point i and brown -- in brown. >> the core of it, actually. >> i would overrule over that. >> objection. >> any dissenting view? it is tangential but it is along the same lines. ok. >> you're talking about 151 to 157? i would agree. in terms of the next batch, 158 through 180, this go

mr. kaiser's loan. in order to pay for mr. kennedy's loan. do you mr. president ever reflect that a country that borrows $40,000 a second is heading for a cliff. and you are at the wheel. you are stepping on the gas. spending is accelerating. we now spend nearly 25% of our g.d.p. in washington and half of that is borrowed. entitlements and interests on the debt will consume all tax revenue in the near future. it is not a question of will debt prices occur in america, it is only a question of when. in all seriousness, because someone will take it literally, i don't think the president hates rich people. i don't think he hates poor people. no bad intentions at all. a misguided philosophy, yes. but not bad intentions. the president continues to roam the country claiming millionaires and billionaires for not paying their fair share this . is objectively false. millionaires on average pay about 29% of their income and nonmillionaires, the rest of us, we pay less than 29%. the top 10% of earners pay over 70% of the income tax. if you make over $200,000 in thi

ok ever a dull moment with max kaiser we're going to let you go mr i don't know he probably has a case of them i think every show now house one but we're going to bring in the new year here in our teeth throughout this hour by speaking to some familiar faces that you've seen here and are going through of course some of the biggest events last year america's struggle to know which way to go next making barack obama sweat before returning to the white house for the four years but he and the twenty twelve was defined by tragedy of course twenty infant six teachers must loosely go two weeks before christmas the soul searching over gun ownership laws has rarely been more intense than tom hartman from archies the big picture now joins us live to talk about whether america is ready to surrender its cherished second amendment tom i was in the states when this happened just awful it touched so many millions of people around the world and outside of the country it's a question i get asked all the time in europe is how is it. of all that people are allowed to own these cons. it's possible in part

mr. keith or ms. kaiser on this? does the mayor have a position on the costs of bringing ms. lopez to san francisco? >> she is a defense witness. normally, we would expect a defense witness to pay for it. we would consider their request. i will take it to the mayor. this is the first i have heard of it. i am happy to take it to the mayor. >> i am sorry. i have a couple more questions. if there is not an agreement for ms. lopez to appear live, is she willing to appear by video testimony? >> it is interesting. i have thought about it. i do not think skype would work. my preference is that she would come here to testify. i have never seen the president of skype testimony. i have a difficult time in my experience. it drops. sometimes it wks. sometimes it does not. ms. lopez was also listed by the mayor's office as a witness. >> the sheriff has submitted a declaration in support of the defense. she is here to be cross- examined by the mayor. any witness who does not appear for testimony, the declaration is going to receive little to no weight. given the status of her declaration,

mr. keith or ms. kaiser? >> chairman, if i might suggest, i think a lot of the admissibility arguments may turn on the arguments about the admissibility of the ivory williams decoration. the argument might be too abstract if we do not go first to ms. mattison. chairperson hur: here is my concern. we received that declaration only recently, and i do not believe the sheriff's team has had an opportunity to submit written objections. in scheduling discussions i had with the parties, i did ask if the council could be prepared to orally discuss the objections, if any, to ms. mattison. are you prepared to do that? ok. why don't we -- >> i am. chairperson hur: thank you. [inaudible] chairperson hur: before we get to -- i think it is a good suggestion. before we get to ms. madison and ms. williams, i have a couple of questions, in light of the rulings on the other witnesses. do i understand that you will not -- obviously, you will not have any need to cross-examine paul henderson. do you have any need to cross- exami