government would refinance its debt, then used the word " instead.re was goin more, let's bring in katia porzecanskiat exactly did maduro say? was he lucid? katia: great question. he used the words refinance and restructure interchangeably. they are two very different words. he didn't clarify if he was including the state owned oil company with a sovereigns, so that caused some confusion. it wasn't entirely clear that they intend to continue to pay their bonds through this situation or if they are defaulting. today, the vice president, who has been put in charge of the restructuring process, provided a bit more clarity. he said it will be both sovereign and the oil company, they intend to keep paying their debts throughout this process. he used the word "renegotiate." the third word in the whole thing. regardless, the market is not taking this well. reaching many bonds down $.18 on .he dollar traders don't like confusion. vonnie: they lost 93% of their value this year. let's talk about the creditors. there's a lot of money at stake. value is dwindling for them, to o. katia: there's the big question