the federal government has sent federal agents to do different places, one, in portland, oregon to work against protesters. now there is a new initiative to fight crime in chicago and other cities, called operation legend. what do we need to know about this? guest: thank you for drawing the distinction between those two different programs. in thats need to start way. in portland, the federal government explains what it is doing by saying it needs to protect its own buildings. the federal courthouse has been under siege for weeks and weeks, there have been attempts to set it on fire, with attacks on those protecting it. the rest of the recent announcement, with chicago, albuquerque, and more cities to come, is different. violence,cted against like the terrible drive-by shooting at the chicago funeral the other day. most of these cities have seen a spike in homicides, street shootings, gang warfare and other crime problems that we have had to some extent all along. so it is two different federal responses. hasortland, the controversy come because people are policing themselves. according

55 days now there has been a seizure on federal courthouse and on monuments on federal property and the people who are trying to guard that courthouse and protect those monuments federal authorities are acting lawfully and are under attack and makes the point that well portland is overwhelmingly why. i don't contest that it's not about attacking black people this is about protecting i think putting rampant violence and protecting federal property and at the moment the other thing that there that he says that i agree with this is part of the responsibility of state police and state authorities worst state laws but earle out of federal laws out there including against firearms and violence and and drop the bombs that are being spent to chicago for instance at the moment local police are diverted to crowd control and federal authorities have all sorts of rights and duties to enforce those laws now are there are things happening on the ground in port that are excessive possibly that this the department of justice is specter general parra which has said that he is going to look in to that an

federal actions real or perceived to slow walk leases and federal actions, again, real and perceived, to block leases and permits, being unwilling to see compromise, failing to present -- to be present and available to the community are escalating the severity of the charges, or can exacerbate calm flicked. ultimately, i believe congress needs to do a whole cyril view of the federal state and the laws governing it, however, even in this broken system, there are examples of collaboration amongst conflicting interests that have yielded good results. i think this boils down to some basic principles of cooperatives federalism, the first being that the solutions are citing situation specific. a specific decision reflects the unique circumstances, histories and priorities of communities inland users. americans can undo successfully pursue varied and competing interests with creative, nuance compromises. this requires relying on people who directly benefit or are harmed by those decisions. second, solutions rely and respect the role of private property owners. rather than being a, relevant o

facilities and federal properties.ainly the federal courthouse. the department's mission is very clear. we are charged with protecting federal facilities across the country. we have been protecting the courthouse in downtown portland since 1997 when it first opened. we began to see a rise in violent activity targeting federal facilities in late may in portland, coinciding with the death of george floyd. let me reiterate that the department fully supports those who wish to peacefully protest. let me say this again. we support and we will protect those who want to peacefully protest. unfortunately what we are seeing in portland every night, roughly from midnight to 4:30 or 5:00 a.m., is a complete opposite. again, what is occurring in portland in the early hours of every morning is not peaceful protesting. these individuals are organized and they have one mission in mind. to burn down or to cause extreme damage to the federal courthouse and to law enforcement officers. at times we also see them targeting city property. t

federal building. and across the street from all three are parks, which have performed the function of staging areas for rioters, for criminals, and the powers being exercised by the federal authorities are to protect the federal facilities. that is it. even when we go off those properties, which the statute from congress says we can do, it is for the purpose of performing that function. so if someone assaults a law enforcement officer at the courthouse, we can go arrest that person anywhere in pursuit of that particular authority. but that doesn't mean we can police the streets of portland and hand out tickets for speeding or doing other things , and that is for portland and the state police to do. mr. lee: for these apparently violent, repeated attacks on federal courthouses and other federal personnel and facilities, would you have ever sent federal personnel into that zone? mr. cuccinelli: of course the f.b.s. officers are always there. but i assume you mean added more? through june, f.p.s. continu

federal facilities.how is that working out? and what are the last few weeks there and elsewhere, what have they taught us about what's going on? rodney scott is the head of the u.s. border patrol. chief scott, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you for having me on this morning, appreciate it. gerry: can you tell us, first of all, this is situation in portland. an agreement was made this week that the federal agents who'd been there will be withdrawn, and there were reports on thursday that there weren't federal agents on the street on thursday night. can you just give us an update on what's going on and how that situation is developing? >> yeah, let me tell you a little bit about last night. so last night was the first time -- yes. first time in over two months that federal agents didn't face a direct and immediate threat of being burnt alive inside that federal building. the reason for that was because the state stepped up and partnered with us and actually took away the ability for the anarc

why is donald trump sending federal troops to confront protesters in u.s. cities the president says violent crime needs to be controlled opponents denounce what they call a political stunt does the deployment set a dangerous precedent for american democracy this is inside story. hello and welcome 'd to the program i'm wrong come on donald trump often calls himself the lower note a president it's one of the campaign themes in his bid for re-election less than full months from now is accused some city mayor as failing to rein in weeks of protests against police brutality. trump sent in federal agents to portland in oregon earlier this month he said the item was to support local police and protect government buildings from increasingly violent unrest some protesters say they were arrested without cause and taken away in unmarked cause trumps also announced what he called a surge of federal offices to other cities such as chicago to combat violent crime that. extreme politicians have joined this anti police crusade and relentlessly vilified our law enforcement

federal -- a lot of the federal city is the seat of the federal government. as you the buildings, know, and facilities here, and monuments, are the responsibility of the federal and the proceedings and process of the federal overnment take place here, and so when you have a large scale disturbance that is damaging federal property, property, g federal threatening federal law nforcement officers, threatening the officials in government and their offices, and our great monuments, it's responsibility of the federal government to render we do so in on and with the dination metropolitan police department. later that evening on monday as we did establish a buffer zone, we were able we are able to finish that day without further significant violence from the demonstrators. and then the following two days were peaceful. the assemblies and protests were peaceful. so we are pleased with that. we are working closely with the metropolitan police to plan out the remainder of the week. next question. >> abc news, go hit. >> good afternoon, attorney general barr. a couple q

for over 60 days federal properties in portland, particularly the hatfield federal courthouse have beenttacked by violent criminals, opportunists and anarchists. i want to be clear we see in portland every day non-violent protests. the department is aware of the national dialogue taking place around racism and law enforcement practices, and we continue to support and defend every american's right to exercise their 1st amendment rights. the violent activity that i will refer to today is not associated with those protests. the violent activity we see occurring between midnight and 5:00 a.m. began roughly around may 28th, with the mayor of portland announcing an 8:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. curfew from may 30th to june 2nd. on june 1st, due to the level of violence, well before dhs arrived in portland, the portland mayor asked the governor of oregon to activate the national guard to help protect facilities in the city. over the course of june, dhs monitored the situation in portland closely, began deploying additional fps officers into portland to protect federal facilities. despite surging over

protect federal facilities and federal personnel. rsonnel. rioting, to address the and also, to address the rioting that was interfering with the government's function, and that was what we were doing. i think the president is the head of the executive branch and the chief executive of the nation, and should be able to walk outside the white house and walk across the street to the church of presidents. i don't necessarily view that as a political act. i think it was entirely appropriate for him to do. i did not know that he was going to do that until later in the were well our plans underway to move the perimeter. so there was no correlation between our tactical plan of moving the perimeter out by one block, and the president's going over to the church. the president asked members of his cabinet to go over there with him, the two that were present, and i think it was appropriate for us to go over with him. next question. >> thank you, sir. our next question comes from mike with the associated press. please go. >> thank you, mr. attor

federal demands get met first. to use the defense production act in the way people are worried about would raise constitutional questions if you used it to seize things from states. that might run into constitutional difficulties. >> let's shift to the question of immunity. there has been debate about whether tort law should be amended to allow businesses and commercial operations who are reopening, to give them some immunity from subsequent claims that they helped spread the virus or sickened people. prof. yoo: that is a great question. you can see in certain emergency situations we assume an immunity to people because we don't want them to have to make decisions under the press of time, limited information, limited resources and have them think, am i going to get sued about this? example,me, for soldiers have what is called combatant immunity. we don't have lawsuits against our leaders and generals because of mistakes they might make in war. aret of the ways we thinking about this pandemic has that quality, think

the federal bureau of investigation from the d. e. a the drug enforcement administration from the a.t.f. alcohol tobacco and firearms agency and the h s i this is the homeland. the department of homeland security. acronym for this so we will see in those cities according to the president now a significant number off all federal law enforcement officers and as you can imagine the cities he chose are run by democrats as mayors. so they are not that happy about this and it is so far an open question why no. violence in chicago is bad no doubt about this a lot of people die there every day every weekend. and local law enforcement trying to get a whole hand on this and a handle on this for years but why sending in now federal law enforcement personnel that is maybe a political question so just to be clear. this deployment to take chicago the as you mentioned this is completely separate so these days these protests the being dealt with by federal office as they say portland. until racism protests that appear to have got out of hand this

and respect towards so this seems to be pushing the federal government further into a corner and the action that the federal government takes in response may in turn elicit a response from the great and we could be down. of. a cycle of deterioration which could eventually lead to conflict so dolly the to grow a regional government went ahead with the regional elections advance and that you won't deal with the government and youth what i'm van't you want to recognize or extend the mandate of the federal parliament and also the government of that from. the fear if they want to recognize the legitimacy of prime minister at the moment that that's a serious threat to the federal establishment. it is it indeed it is that the more concerning issue is the way the further government kept on downplaying these i think their understanding of this is that there are a few discriminant members of that live up in the north and neck and it making it outrageous to me and i do not think the federal government is taking this threat serious the president has just delivered her opening speech at the joint

my quick question was how as , far as the federal employees is being affected can they take federal money, like the working public as far as people that spun them on unemployment. that's trying to get stimulus money or unemployment money. how is that actually affecting federal employees as well. if you can answer that question, that's my first question. and my other question is as far as those that take money from the taxpayers as well. >>. >> mister katz. ti>> the stimulus payments that congress authorized ayand president from signed into law. the federal employees are qualified based on their salary, then they would receive those payments. they also, there was a carveout for federal employees in the first bill congress passed was dealing with sickly. so most federal employees should be eligible for next and extra two weeks of sickly if they get sick due to coronavirus. now, there has been any cases raof federal employees being laid off. through a reduction in force as they call it in government so far so there shouldn't be any at least not on any sort ofwidespread scale . unemployment u

what other measures do you think the federal government needs to take to ensure the security of federal workers and workers countrywide? guest: i think that more than anything what the federal government needs to do is be making sure that if an employee is high risk, that they all have opportunities to be away from the job in order to not affect anyone else. they also need to make sure that all federal employees working under these conditions have the opportunity to be paid hazardous duty pay. because i think that that is also important. host: the headline says federal workers in the union sue for hazard pay. a federal class-action lawsuit argues agencies should be required to provide hazardous duty pay to employees exposed to the coronavirus. parenthetically, of us anecdotally what you may have of your members in terms of stories you may have heard being asked to work when they do not want to work or are concerned about coming into work. have you heard things like that? guest: we certainly have. we have heard people being forced into work and knowing that they may have been around peop

the federal reserve when you're nominated at the federal reserve and confirmed by the senate, he a long term, the probably the longest term that we have, up to 14 years i believe. so our views i believe should be mainstream. if people deem you, a lot of people have, that you are an outlier on mainstream, if you were on the fed, how would you work with the other members, could you work with them on the goal of price stability and full involvement or would you continue to be an outlier? >> thank you, senator shelby. i would look very much forward to working with my colleagues at the federal reserve. i have great respect for the capabilities and for their judgment. i think i would bring my own perspective but i think the intellectual diversity strengths strengthens and would be welcome. that's what i would hope to bring but certainly with the goal of working with the people who are there and together we would try to formulate monetary policy most conducive to production. >> you have talked about it and other people have written about the gold standard. if you had all the gold in the world,

the federal government for its part conforms to certain requirements of federal law and provide funding for state administration of their programs. in the first half of march of this year just before the national economy shutdown we have a labor department explained to states how they had flexibility in those substantive parameters to enable workers who had covid-19 or family members with covid-19 to draw you on. essentially saying in the pandemic, ui can offer a form of partial paid leave. within weeks of that the president signed the first ever federal paid leave law for the private sector in two weeks after that signed the cares act with this unprecedented expansion of ui, that is how quickly things are moving in those weak sentiments. and there's a supplemental payment on top of the state benefit as i mentioned earlier. the pandemic unemployment assistance program provides benefits to those who couldn't work because of covid-19 and were not otherwise eligible for unemployment benefits. this was principally for the self-employed but others are eligible too. paycheck protection progra

federal facilities.spite surging 20 additional officers throughout june, it was clear we were overmatched. ofearly june, at the request officials in portland, i directed additional law enforcement aspects to protect federal properties and officers. our officers have faced assaults from bricks, baseball bats, sledgehammers, molotov cocktails, fireworks, excel or rinse, ied's, and other violent weapons. federal officials in portland have made 99 arrests. dhs officers have experienced 277 separate injuries. they range from minor to serious to include several who may have permanent eye damage. i would like to play a short video of what our officers have faced. [inaudible] >> unfortunately, what was absent was the help from local law enforcement personnel. there was little to no assistance provided to protect federal properties. was little o assistance provided to protect federal properties. state officials did not allow local law enforcement to police the area immediately around federal facilities. a nightly

not happening in chicago we don't need federal troops we don't need unnamed secret federal agents roaming around the streets of chicago that's not democracy that we saw unfolding in the streets of portland as a result of this federal action that's what we call tyranny and dictatorship and we're not having it in chicago. residents of chicago say extra police won't solve the issues facing the city saying action on gun control would be more effective in tackling violent crime and washington correspondent stefan simons gave us this is testament of president trump's announcement the president wants to send more federal law enforcement personnel into cities his administration now perceives to be hotbeds of increasing violence example chicago president trump sees quote explosion of shootings and quote now what's behind all of this right politics in the eyes of many experts and observers here the president plays the law and order card now because he's convinced that this will benefit him at the presidential elections come november the president and or his reelection advisers believe that now is t

across the federal government. your question is asking about leaving future technologies. i have a long run on the modernization to keep things going, yet we have emerging technologies and a lot of discussions on quantum computing, for instance. and the impact that it's going to have on encryption. is the federal government prepared to support the next ten years with quantum computing and potentially breaking current encryption methodology. we have to be prepared for that so that even as we are modernizing some of the old legacy systems, we have to make sure the current systems as well are keeping up and that we are ready and planning ahead so that as technology falls, we are there and we are not opening ourselves up to those security vulnerabilities. again even those things we have invested in and the infrastructures and the zero trust networks and the flexibility and scalability that gives the ability to configure the platform for the usable services and the technologies are emerging and can take advantage of tha

he was appointed as the director at the federal level of the federal writers project and interested in the commercial potential of these ex slave narratives. he wanted representations and portraits of former slaves as this rural, exotic, colorful folk people. he thought it would be appealing to a wide audience. on the other end of the spectrum, you had the only african american to be appointed as a federal director of the federal riders ex slave project. that was the very famous poet from howard university, sterling brown. sterling brown was appointed as the director of the office of miguel affairs in washington. it was his an enviable task to review all of the copy that was sent in from different state directors and state and local offices. anything pertaining to black history and black identity. sterling brown and his small staff were responsible of reading through it and correct some of the worst stereotyped or misrepresentations of black history and identity. contrasting thoughts and ideas of how this project was conceived. >> whose story was told? >> that is what is so fascinating

congress created the federal reserve as an independent agency and through the federal reserve reform act of 1977, charged it with the mandate to promote maximum employment, stable prices and moderate long-term interest rates. our central bank has been entrusted with considerable power to carry out its responsibilities. along with the political independence and operational autonomy granted to the federal reserve comes an obligation to be wholly accountable, both to congress and to the public. if confirmed, my priority will be to support monetary policy that facilitates productive economic growth while also ensuring the soundness and stability of the u.s. financial system. in exercising the federal reserve's regulatory oversight, i will support policies that are effective, efficient and appropriately tailored to financial institutions, allowing them to better serve their customers and communities in ways consistent with maintaining a safe financial system. i am well prepared to conscientiously fulfill the duties of the position for which i have been nominated based on my background and

i think what governor hogan did with his national guard, which could always be federalized into federal service and become part of the us army, i'm not sure that was constitutional. you could say he has the right to the property but the federal government has the right to stop and start everything at the border includes everything that flies into the country. if this was a flight from i think it was from korea, that have medical equipment, it seems to me the federico has the right to inspect and decide what to do with it at the border when it comes into the country. once it's inside maryland. then the other question is about the defense production act. again, it's, i would be wary of using the defense production act to say we can reopen the whole economy. the defense production productf you look at its terms it's a national security law about in war time making sure is getting enough were material to fight the war. so the best use of this and what the statute talks about is prioritizing federal requests for equipment, allocating resources so federal demands get met first. the use of the

from the federal government. i want to thank the fda for moving very expeditiously to get us the supply. the president ordered the fda to move in the fda moved. supplygoing to get this and the trial will start this tuesday. the president is optimistic about these drugs. and we are all optimistic that it could work. i have spoken with the number of health officials and there is a good basis to believe that they could work. some health officials point to africa each has a very low infection rate. and there's a theory that because they are taking this antimalarial drug in africa, it may actually be one of the reasons why the infection rate is low in africa. we don't know. but let's find out and let's find out quickly. i agree with the president on that and we are going to start tuesday. i also think the fda should serologicaling testing for coronavirus antibodies and they should do it as soon as possible. this tests the blood to see if you have antibodies that were created to fight the coronavirus. remember, all the

the district pays more federal taxes per capita than any state and pays more federal taxes than 22 states of the union. the district's population of 705,000 is larger than those of wyoming and vermont and the new state would be a new state under one million. the $2 drp 5-- $2.5 billion is more than most states. and the triple-a bond rating is higher than those of 35 states. the d.c. has the higher per capita personal income and gross domestic product than any state. 86% of d.c. residents voted in favor of statehood in 2016. in fact, d.c. residents have been fighting for voting rights in congress and local autonomy for 219 years. the constitution's admission clause gives congress the authority to admit new states and all 37 new states have been admitted by an act of congress. the constitution's district clause which gives congress authority over the federal district sets a maximum size of the federal district of 100 square miles. it does not set a minimum size. congress has previously changed the size of the federal district including reducing it 30% in 1846. over the last few months, the

government to enforce federal law and protect federal property. paul: are there any limits on what federal law enforcement can do? let's say, obviously they can protect federal property but let's say you get somebody who they observe looting a private business. can they act as law enforcement and that kind of a case, arrest somebody doing that? >> i think they are regarded as peace officers and could but that's not what they are there for. also, understand the federal government has limited resourc resources. just to give you an idea of the scale, the new york city police department has about 38000 officers. the entire fbi has 12,000 or 13000 special agents worldwide. marshall service has people and dea has people but again, we are talking about a small number compared to the large number of local officials that exist so it's a matter of discretion, you have to be careful how you allocate those resources. paul: is also the issue a lot of these local officials say they don't want any kind of federal presence. they can handle it themselves. apart fr

city to protect federal monuments or particular federal facilities. that were within the white house area and were part of protecting the white house and lafayette park area were under the direction of the tactical commanders in that area. in terms of requesting the resources and asking for their assistance, that was ultimately my responsibility of ensuring that the national guard that we needed to support law enforcement and the district were brought to bear. next question. reporter: thank you so much for doing this press conference. i have two questions. i would like to ask you about your thoughts on police abuse of power. last year, you said that such abuse reflected bad apples more than systemic breakdowns. today, you said george floyd's death is not the first of its thatwhile it is undeniable many african-americans lack confidence in the justice system. ift is your thinking about we're looking at a systemic issue are not shifted over time? have gen. barr: my views not shifted and what you quoted is consistent. you are addressing the use of excess

versus that of the federal government and the federal government infringing on the states. i heard a moment ago how they spoke about their constitutional amendments to possibly address some of those. and if they could come into things i haven't heard about, that would be great. >> we have one minute left. let's understand the real significance of this case constitutionally. >> it affirmed earlier doctrines that were not anywhere near as prominent as the consciousness at the point in time we really did need a statement with regards to a strong federal government. >> the constitution was a compromise, unlike all compromises it had and beauties and silences. the ruling in mccullough via maryland, john marshall pretended those silences were not there. his vision and effectuating the strong government that he saw the u.s. could be isn't one of the reasons we remember the case and him today. >> when we talk about the size and scope of the federal government and the kinds of things it does, this is a debate going on in this town, can one look to mccullough versus maryland for open

the last thing i will say is along witith the federal agents, the risk of federal agents in unmarkedicles coming into our city and what that means for people that are protesting, what that means for organizations, i think is also important to note that police have taken the gloves off. just this past week in chicago, young organizer who i worked when i metete boyd her she was fighting to stop the closure of all the high schools in her neighborhood, she was protesting at an event where aey were trying to protest clung to statatue and a chicago police officer,, as she was vigorously protesting, ran up on this 18-year-old girl and's master in the mouth with t this baton and knococked her teeth o. we just had a conference e with mimiracle yesterday. thee brutality is not new. the infrfringement on our righgs is not new.. whether the agent isis donald trump the agent of chchange for this type of infringement onon r righghts -- our rights are alrey being infrfringed upon. , i'mjesse hagopian wondering if you can address -- the activisism in seattle has bn zonese, the autonomous that were s

glass called his the federal reserve association because it was federal in nature. now when glass comes up with this scheme, we don't know who the next president is going to be because it's early 1912 and we're headed toward the most famous election probably in american history, the 1912 presidential election. because we have three major candidates. the republican president, william howard taft. teddy roosevelt, who had been a republican president, but now broken with taft, forms the progressive party. and third, wood row wilson, a democrat governor of new jersey. nobody knows when glass comes up with this plan, who's going to be the next president. turns out wilson gets about 40% of the vote. is elected president. he and glass had never met, but glass contacts him and goes to visit him and glass says i got a great deal for you. i've come up with this banking scheme and glass and wilson kind of fall in love with each other. they're both southerners. they're both virginians. they're both racists. they both don't like a strong federal government, so glass' plan is jus

city of portland president trump says the deployment of federal forces and that began in portland will be increased to include other cities where he says they're needed to restore law and order critics say the move is politically motivated and will create even more anger and also want to show examples higher sophia is due to reopen as a mosque for friday prayers after more than 80 years as a museum. and play richardson welcome to the show anger and on rest are growing in the united states following president trump's announcement that he will send federal troops and to several democratic controlled cities he says they're needed to deal with a surge in violent crime but the trump deployment of federal forces already operating in portland oregon has been targeting protesters demanding racial justice when the mayor himself caught in the crossfire. there and i am a student and it's hard to bring the mayor of portland tear gassed by federal offices in the middle of his own city. a. 10. willow was in a group of protesters outside a federal courthouse he said he saw nothing which provoked this

the federal government and states. but last time we were talking about the debates between state and local level power. and those mirrored debates at the federal level and if anything they were much more contentious because so much governing authority was located in the states and localities. and what we're talking about was a system of layered authority. where states had control over the rights of citizens and the public interest. but they gave local areas broad discretionary authority over a wide range of matters involving the public interest. so basically the states then handed over all of the discretion over this broad area of the public interest to local areas and so these jurisdictions that operated simultaneously, with local things doing their thing and states doing their thing. and this contained a conflict between two different kind of visions of law. so we had a universal view where states had a monopoly over legal authority and they were the ones who defined the law. and then a particularistic view where sta

property which is a federal felony and would justify federal agents apprehending them.problems as i see it is that apparently most of these people are being released shortly after they arrested, so they are never presented to a magistrate and the government has never required to explain exactly what the legal justification was for their arrest, and that, i think, contributes to the perception that this is really harassment and not necessarily the protection of federal facilities. and the president says he is having to act because he says very liberal democrats, the radical left as he puts it, i'm not acting, he is clearly trying to make a election issue. there are also suspicions he is trying to distract from his handling of the pandemic. i don't think we can avoid that narrative stopping the reality is that traditionally we rely on local and state authorities to maintain order and to protect federal facilities maintain order and to protect federalfacilities in maintain order and to protect federal facilities in their jurisdiction. a federal court ina jurisdiction. a fe

, to help federal agencies prioritize federal i.t. monetization. the modernizing government technology act also coming out of this committee, was passed to enable agencies to establish work in capital funds to help them use savings from my team monetization in order to further invest integrated agile systems and transition away from those legacy systems. legacy systems that are often 30 and 40 years old. the law also created, coming out of this committee again, the technology monetization fund which established a government funding source for agencies to remove and replace those legacy systems and upgrade their own. yet the team f remains chronically underfunded. and outgoing chief information officer, suzanne can't, has identified as underfunding as illustrative of the small board thinking that unfortunately has prevailed when it comes to making key investments. agencies responsible for performing critical government functions operate on legacy systems with components, sometimes dating back even 50 years. the government accountabilit

it does when we use the federal money. you can label me as a republican if you want, but most of the republicans label me as kind of a troublemaker. the fact is the more involvement to happen the federal government, the less efficiency you are going to have and the less capabilities of actually allowing people to be free and make choices and live and suffer the consequences of those. host: there are so-called homemakers in the house right now. this is the house freedom caucus, who wants the leadership in the house to defund planned parenthood. yesterdaydeo released with one of the officials from planned parenthood talking about a pr issue, if they got out about what was happening there. this is the 10th one. some in the freedom caucus want to defund planned parenthood and their willing to shut down the federal government over it. where do you come down on this? well, i don't mind shutting down the federal government if you know you are going to keep it shut down until you win. obamacare, that was a failed strategy. and thi

the powers being exercised by the federal authorities are to protect the federal facilities. that is it. even when we go off those properties, which the statute from congress says we can do, it is for the purpose of performing that function. so if someone assaults a law enforcement officer at the courthouse, we can go arrest that person anywhere in pursuit of that particular authority. but that doesn't mean we can police the streets of portland and hand out tickets for speeding or doing other things and that's for portland ability state police. mr. lee: for these apparently orchestrated violent repeated attacks on federal courthouses and other federal personnel and facilities, would you have ever sent federal personnel into that zone? mr. cuccinelli: of course the f.b.s. officers are always there. but i assume you mean added more? through june, f.p.s. continued to add their own officers as the violence escalated. and if you look in may and june, we have a graphic compilation i can send to each of you that shows the number of days of attacks on federal facilities. and in may a