vladimir sergeenko political scientist journalist writer works in strasbourg ch . imirovich, please tell us what kind of atmosphere i'm just wondering what they are talking about there, what kind of atmosphere? well, you can say the atmosphere is, of course, amazing, in quotation marks. i mean amazing. initially, it seemed to me that there were not enough russian voices. e, strasbourg parliamentary assembly of the council of europe e. here, where is slutsky leonid eduardovich where is pyotr tolstoy, and now, after having been in the hall, i listened to what they say, who speaks as they say, this is the second day already, but i have no more illusions. indeed, it is right that there is no representative of russia here, and it is right that the conversation is over, because some things are easy to listen to, well, the emotional state is so specific, because imagine speaking to a deputy of the ukrainian delegation. speaks a shrill speech. and then he says. you understand that here denocification looks like the rape of a woman. you understand that women are being raped

and vladimir sergeenko yes, you know him very well. here you, please, actually passe. and here’s the atmosphere for you, it seems like there are people who want to get some information, but most of these people don’t even need this information, as far as i understand, they don’t even want to listen to the ukrainian side, they just know really. what resolution will be the result of being present is not even necessary, just about the paradox of this whole situation even. what is there in strasbourg, of course, sits quite, a certain audience. that is, these are people who make a political career and participate in political public life. they understand what atmosphere they are in. well, those who give themselves an account of this, there, of course, there are people who do not understand anything, but the majority. i am sure i understand that in this atmosphere they want to burn up the dense layers of the atmosphere, and to burn in the dense layers of the atmosphere today is to speak from an alternative point of view, to say that not everything will be like that, there wi