gardha cary. gardha was born in jerusalem and forced from the home. during the nakback she later trained as a medical doctor and established the first british palestinian medical charity in 1972. she's also associate fellow at the royal institute for international affairs and her books include the bestselling memoir in search of fatima. welcome to the show. let me start. i mean you you forced out of palestine in 1948 were you and then witness the occupation of gaza and the west bank from a far in 1967. i wonder whether you could just recall how you felt at the time of the first tofada? well... "i had, of course, i had already uh become an activist following the 1967 war, because it was the first time i remember that i began to understand what israel was..." about and it was very clear to me from that day on that what they were about was occupying the rest of palestine and that that's what they wanted. the first father was so hopeful, it was wonderful moment for all of us who had felt a kind of sens