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won't let you have house plants any more, what wind of world is this, joining us to talk about it bjorn lomborgthe new book, best things first. put the full screen on bjorn, surrounded by beautiful plant life. i know i are politically correct, they are not going to let you keep your plants there is a "washington post" editorial piece, indoor house plants come to a cost to the planet. what is this about? >> yes, thank you. look this just silly stories, there isal these stories ervin every -- it is your fault, you have to do something because of climate change, this is silly stories, distracting us from real solutions, you will not solve climate change, which is real, by telling people you can't have this. have fewer of plants you like? only will solve climate change through what we have known that is innovation. if we can focus on making people richer and fix climate change by making green energy sufficiently cheap, then everyone will switch. that is not what you do by having "washington post" telling you you can't have plants you like. larry: you can't drive your truck, that transports the plan

false alarm how climate change panic costs us trillions hurts the poor and fails to fix the planet bjorn lomborg bjorn how are you sir? how are you? good to meet you. it's been a while. thank you. >> okay all right. i'm so glad you're here. because we can talk about environment every time we have a political campaign in this country. it becomes the forgotten issue people care about it. they care about it, and they care about it. and then they just don't seem to want to talk about it. maybe because it doesn't poll very well. but, i mean, you are a skeptic of a lot of what goes on about what people say about how dire climate change is. and i think that's good. i think we need skepticism, but i must say, i am skeptical of you. you should be. exactly. we all just need to be skeptical. so first of all, you've never been paid by anybody, right? like an oil company. no, we don't take money from oil companies. and the important part here is to remember that what we're talking about is really just saying what does the science tell us? and what does the economics tell us? yeah, climate change is a real pr

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so they regularly publish this informative pieces by people like bjorn lomborg. in this summary wrote a piece saying, oh, well you know, these wildfires have nothing to do with global warming. they did publish my letter to the editor. i even managed to sneak in the title of my book came on. they let me get away with that and and i quoted because you only get about 100 words bjorn you know, 700 words if you're lucky. if they give you 100 words, i simply quoted piece that had appeared a week earlier on the news pages, the wall street journal, because their news is actually quite objective. it's straight up news reporting. and so i just quoted the title of an article that basically you know unpleasant warming leading to massive wildfires and it contradict it the title of an article from a week ago in the wall street journal completely contradicted his entire thesis the entire thesis of his op ed same thing there's often a grain of truth for example with wildfires there are large grasslands now the forests that been deforested and replaced grasslands and these grassl

it's like many that bjorn lomborg is the name, the pwho w.shed, my rebuttal. i'm sorry to hear that, because absolutely right. you were smart to do. i did the same thing this summer when bjorn lomborg published an op ed in the climate, denying editor journal, the murdoch owned wall street journal. i'll just say that because the there is a globals corp empire that has sort of almost single promoted this sort of misinformation and disinformation. the world, including united states. so they regularly publish this informative pieces by people like bjorn lomborg. in this sum you know, these wildfires have nothing to do with global warming. they did publish my letter to the in the title of my book came on. they let me get away with that and and i quoted because you only get abo 100 words bjorn, you know, 700 words if you're lucky. if they give you 100 words, i simply quoted piece that had appeared a week earlier on the news pages, the wall street journal, because their news is actually quite objective. it's straig up nerews reporting. and so i just

larry: bjorn lomborg write following climate science could lead to financial ruin, he is joining us nowo be a numbers guy. i still am. the total cost will average 27 trillion dollars each year across the century reaching up to 60 trillion a year in 2100. so why are we doing this? >> because of panic. you are right. this is incredibly expensive to do the way that most politicians in the world are saying, let's go netzero that will not work. -- would work, climate change is a problem. but what will work is to invest more in innovation, so we will actually get green technology. so cheap that everyone will want it let's not make these arguments because people say, we should follow the science, science said there is a problem but economics tells how to deal with it smartly. larry: we have already spent a fortune, i have seen this number. basically, 4/5 of world energy comes from fossil fuel. and other thing to note, you say, is over the past two centuries global life quality has improved to a large extent because of an increase in energy, mostly from harnessing of fossil fuels, okay. ly make

the most fun part, bjorn lomborg and some others have already proven they have spent whole communitythis global warming nations have already spent 12 trillion dollars in last -- i don't know steve, 10 or 20 years. i don't follow this garbage. but, what is happened carbon has gone up not down, i understand that. but they spent 12 trillion, yellen wants to spend 78 trillion do you think that results will be better. >> only 25 trillion is our money. larry: mo oh oh, no problem. >> let me think about it with a ti a 10 of that we could end hunger in the world and al alleviate every disease. these are same people who can't fix the potholes in the roads, they can't secure the border and solve the crime problem. they think that spending 78 trillion will somehow lower the temperature of the planet. i don't think that too many people buy that. larry: this is a former fed chairman. from berkeley economics department. san francisco fed president. now treasury secretary, and art laffer, other one that came out of hot lean today, that i loved. is venezuela story. get this, chavez and maduro were a

our friend bjorn lomborg estimates that global government spending to climate change, each year, is now 27 trillion dollars. each year. and has not moved the needle one bit. back to gallup and ev, 1% percentage of people -- 1 year percentage of people who might consider buying an electric vehicle have dropped, and people who are seriously considering buying an electric vehicle has dropped from 12% to 9%, and those over in buying one has gone -- never buying one gone up from 41% to 48%, they are staggering numbers, and car salesman joe biden is out there selling the lemons. biden's electric vehicles, are the modern day ed sill ed sol of our time, ford brought it out, it was one of biggest failures, three years later they buried it. i'm betting at some point in presidential campaign mr. biden buries talking about electric vehicles, give it a maybe. david axelrod told biden to drop bidenomics and instead adopt more of a clinton e nesque message of i feel your pain and we're working harder to do better, but instead he is blaming don donald trump, inflation in particular. which not only stub

hoax and green new deal and there may be climate change over the next hundred years, but like bjorn lomborgphysicist steve coonin, i'm willing to wait for economic growth and there's no immediate threat. in fact, there was a letter, 1600 scientists signed the letter, four noble prize winners, no immediate threat. yes, we have bouts of cold weather and bouts of hot weather. weepy weather reports are different than century-long climate change cycles. the american public by the way is in full revolt over this stuff. hat tipped to the unleash prosperity hot line today and derid of the offensive showing 67% of consumers prefer an internal combustion engine in their next car purchase. just 6% prefer pure evs and 21% like hybrids. not so long ago, president biden was praising hertz rental cars for buying electric vehicles. however, yesterday hertz announced a fire sale on 20,000evs. the rental drivers just don't want. took a $200 million and unwanted evs and most of the batteries made in china and a large share of evs themselves will be made in china. they're our biggest adversary and why is biden

phil flynn, bjorn lomborg, phil, you are the energy expert.make natural gas the bogeyman? >> because they can, right? there's absolutely no reason, in fact if you look at natural gas, it's the cheapest hydro carbon in the world and i would argue that the natural gas industry has done more to lower global greenhouse gas emissions than any other alternative fuel on the planet. and why is that? they have replaced coal plants, so picking on natural gas is the wrong thing to do and is another reason why our cities, by making decisions like this, are seeing their economic collapse. >> sandra: bjorn, it's known to be clean, cheap, natural gas, and we make a lot of it, by the way. right now the percent of american households that rely on natural gas for electricity, up 40%, bjorn. highly relying on this. it's a natural resource that we have plentiful supply of. why are they demonizing it? >> well, this is the big problem with climate change. you keep arguing, well, we should take away stuff that you actually like. they keep telling you, oh, it's going

i want to thank bret stephens stephanie ruhle and bjorn lomborg. now go watch overtime on youtube. thank you folks >> have i got news for you i'm kenan thompson and for roy wood jr. in the news this week, at a town hall with oprah kamala harris said that if someone breaks into her house, they getting shot which is probably why her husband enters the house like this it's done excitement is building for the hbo reboot of harry potter, especially now that they've found there hagrid. >> we get up pairing get your fat out of the couch please join me in welcoming i team captains, ever ruffin tonight? he's a former congressman from pennsylvania and a moderate republican, which means the only hates women a little bit michel she's a writer and comedian who just shot her new netflix special. look forward in 2025 and fun fact. orson welles named his sled after her, its rosebud baker biggest stories of the week. here's tonight's first game amber steamed, you're gonna be up first. i'll show you a clip package representing major news story from the past week. and you'll tell me what's the story.

here is the most fun part, bjorn lomborg, and some others have already proven, they have spent, the whole adjunct, the, all this global warming nations have already spent $12 trillion in the last, i don't know, steve, 10 or 20 years, i don't follow this garbage but the fact is, what happened carbon has gone up, not down. i understand that. i don't have a problem with that. but they spent 12 trillion. miss yellen wants to spend 78 trillion, do you think the results will be better? >> only 25 trillion of that is our money. the rest comes from the other countries, no problem, no problem. >> a little bit of a bargain. let me think about this even 1/10 amount of money alleviate all poverty in the world, end huger in the world, find every scientific discovery to alleviate every disease. by the way these are the same people who can't, who can't fix the potholes in the road. who can't secure the border. who can't solve the crime problem but they think spending $78 trillion will somehow lower the temperature of the planet. i don't think too many people buy into that. larry: this is from a former f

remember our friend bjorn lomborg estimates global government spending on climate change, wait for thiseach year is now $27 trillion, each year and hasn't moved the needle one bit. but back to gallup's evs. in just one year the percentage of people who might consider buying an ev has dropped from 43% to 35%. the percentage of people who are seriously considering buying an ev has dropped from 12% to 9%. and those who may never buy an ev has gone up from 41% to 48%. these are staggering numbers. and car salesman joe biden is out there selling these lemons. know what? biden's evs are the modern-day ed self our time. ford brought the car out in 1957, it promptly became one of the biggest failures in automotive history. three years later they had to bury it. so i'm going to bet at some point in the presidential campaign mr. biden buries talking about evs. well give that a maybe. meanwhile obama advisor david axelrod has told biden to drop "bidenomics" completely and instead adopt more of a clintonite message, i feel your pain and we're working harder to do better. that is not what biden is d

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by the political scientist, author and president of the think tank copenhagen consensus centre, bjorn lomborgnk you so much for joining me, miss lomborg. forjoining me, miss lomborg. you've written about this at length, and one of the things thatis length, and one of the things that is used to campaign for reparations is the incidence of disasters on the basis that they're more common, and countries are suffering more. and we've had the floods in spain . but and we've had the floods in spain. but you and we've had the floods in spain . but you argue that the spain. but you argue that the links aren't always there. perhaps you could explain that a bit. >> well, it's great to be here. thank you very much. so first of all, we need to recognise that it's not correct that we are seeing ever more disasters. if anything, we are seeing less impact both in terms of cost and in terms of dead , in terms of in terms of dead, in terms of cost. we would expect as countries get richer, you would see an increase in the same amount in gdp. so fundamentally that the percent of gdp would be the same, but it's a

sure, >> bjorn lomborg is right. >> bjorn lomborg is right. >> he is. >> he is. >> significant numberurope from cold every yeah die in europe from cold every year. what is absolutely untrue aboutis year. what is absolutely untrue about is to say that climate campaigners don't talk about it. insulate britain actually put their put their freedom at stake when they stage in protest. what to demand that the 30,000 people in britain who die from cold every year should have their homes insulated. and so we tackle that . if you tackle cold, tackle that. if you tackle cold, you tackle climate change. at the same time . why? because the same time. why? because a huge amount of fossil fuels are used to heat our leaky homes and cost us a fortune . so climate cost us a fortune. so climate climate campaigners say that we should insulate our homes, cut our fossil fuels and save the lives from cold. >> okay, but with global warming and the place is warming up a bit, you're less likely to need so much cold, as it were, or so much heat as it were, to heat your home, because the place is warming up. so

bjorn lor's book in 2000 . it was very controversial. you may remember that some danish scientific committee formerly charged lomborg with scientific dishonesty. i read the report and i couldn't find a single factual claim disputed, although there were many factual claims in the book you could dispute or hasty conclusions and so forth and they ended up retracting that finding but that shows you how politicized the matter still was . that was just the beginning. by 2005 we have jack hollander a meritus physicist from uc , berkeley who described to me that he got in the environment back in his days as a bobby kennedy liberal. this began to be a sign that environmental thought was now environmental optimism was not only growing but was more bipartisan. it was not limited. the one that especially jumped out to me was seymour cart. it's a professor of public health at the university of pittsburgh and he told the story of how he was at a conference one day of public health experts and a speaker said well of course you know air pollution is falling almost everywhere, and he said we all looked around each other. none of us had heard this. we didn't b

very well known bjorn bjorn lomborg. >> i've been debating bjorn lomborg on this stuff.now what? i'm interested. you had . i've known him for 40 years. >> you've known him ? >> you've known him? >> you've known him? >> he's a brilliant cherry picker. he's about the best cherry picker i know. figures. no, no, no. actually, frankly, if per capita costs, frankly, if the figures come from bjorn, you should. you should test them with a very strong link to figures. >> because of who's put them together. but you're not saying the figures are wrong. wait, wait, wait. >> hold on. >> hold on. >> you're not saying the figures are wrong. you're saying 1528 00:08:37,072 --> 00:08