camille? some of the barriers are i think a lot of it sometime is just not i want to say maybe sometimes not knowing the right people and not being in the right place. but even if you aren't, i think you have to show up. and i'll say this, people call me and they're like, "well, i'm doing this low-budget movie, so i'm, they're not going to get my whole kit. they're not going to get this." nope. if you show up, show up every day with your a-game, show up in excellence. i don't care what you're doing or who you're doing. i don't care what i'm doing. i'm going to show up with my whole kit. i'm bringing you the best that i got. and dot, don't slack because it might not be a beyoncé or an angela bassett. you never know that woman or man who is sitting in your chair, they could blow up the next day and you just never know. be kind and do the right thing for no matter who sits in that chair. zerina: absolutely. they say that, um, you know, an intern can go from being an intern to your boss in three s

camille: great. so what we're going to do from our mic runners are we're going to take two questions at a time. just given where we are on the clock. so this young lady over here, that young lady back there. and then these two gentlemen on this row. questioner: hi. which of two issues will prove to be the largest determinant of how people voted in 2024? abortion or the border? camille: and then go back there, grab that question. then we're going to have our panelists weigh in. questioner: hi. so you were mentioning earlier about given the nature of trump being on the ballot has made it more difficult to determine the accuracy of polling, so i'm curious not just in this election cycle but while he's been kind of on the top of the ballot or the sphere, what change us have seen in the way that poll something conducted or what changes have you made in the way you're reaching out to people? camille: thank you. amy: so that's an excellent question. the abortion or immigration. is it fair to say it depends?

and camille rivera, discount rate. and camille rivera. your— discount rate.era, your thoughts - discount rate. and camille rivera, your thoughts on | discount rate. and camille i rivera, your thoughts on how decisive black and latino voters could be this time. i would say that to people that unemployment is at its worst point — unemployment is at its worst point now, but black and latino voters — point now, but black and latino voters will _ point now, but black and latino voters will be decisive, that we can_ voters will be decisive, that we can agree on, as you can see with_ we can agree on, as you can see with the _ we can agree on, as you can see with the polling being 16—20 ahead — with the polling being 16—20 ahead with latino plain and african _ ahead with latino plain and african americans, voting soundly— african americans, voting soundly for kamala harris. let's — soundly for kamala harris. let's get _ soundly for kamala harris. let's get into more detail on what both candidates were saying. we saw brief clips. beyond the various voting groups, wome

she's called camille and she lives in denver, the capital of colorado.of have a reputation — that crazy dog lady. she says she's voted democrat for the past 15 years. she is a passionate supporter of racial and gender equality and she rehomes rescue dogs. she first became a really active on social media when she started posting about one of them, winky. i guess, marianna, i would admit to you that i spend too much time on social media now and, in my mind, it's kind of a problem. and i somehow need to be better about time blocking, time limits, screen time altogether. winky died in 2020 and rather than stepping back from social media, camille started to spend more time engaging with another community on x — one that was more into politics than puppies. having a private citizen with a non—political background enter the political arena and create a very divisive and adversarial mood, there was more of an urgency and sort of an alarm as far as what is happening. you mean donald trump? yeah, thank you. do you like saying his name? no? not really. i mean, iwil

both wild mother and camille's _ out. both wild mother and camille's increasing - out. you, listen, mariana. _ channels. i'm here with you, listen, mariana. bbc- channels. i'm here with you, listen, mariana. bbc is - channels. i'm here with you, listen, mariana. bbc is a - listen, mariana. bbc is a source that i trust and watch at home and i'm almost about to cry. if you had called me and said, "hey, we want — i'm from newsmax or fox or" you wouldn't want to know what i would have said and i would never have been sitting across from that person. been sitting across from that erson. ~ , ., , ., been sitting across from that erson, ~ , ., , ., .,~' person. why does that make you feel emotional? _ person. why does that make you feel emotional? isn't _ person. why does that make you feel emotional? isn't that - person. why does that make you feel emotional? isn't that odd? i feel emotional? isn't that odd? that it does? _ feel emotional? isn't that odd? that it does? because - feel emotional? isn't that odd? that it does? because we've i that it does? because we've devolved

charles: camille?gret to buteg was an issue relatively clear prevents the coapra and we have done that incredibly successfully if we think back where the i think now, we have to maybe clarify what is it that we mean by defeat of russia in ukraine, which is becoming the standard wording that is being used bye e country. terms -- because whne in terms of ukraine, to make sure that ukraine can choose its future, to make sure thatukraino make sure t ukraine can be i think this can be the framing of strategy and then territory is sort of a practical effort than the end goal of everything, you know? and judging the success of ukraine based on which tritory controls can be creates false expectation. the second thing i would 10 seconds is i think what we don't have is the russian what is it that we want to do with russia and deal with confrontational? and i think as nato we efforts t ukrainev general russian strategy. charles: tom, the perspective from the white house? tom: thank you great to be here. we just

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is a deliberate or the democrat job defending it but camille, what are we start with you? >> ... >> first of all, putin has said deliver your fancy weapon would be an act of war, that deliver major weapons would be inactive or, long ranges of the inactive war. this is the strength of nato that escalation would be a terrible mistake. so altogether i think it is strength to deter from escalating with the conflict -- [inaudible] but i think where across that now. we are very committed to ukraine. we're delivering a lot of long-range ability. soon fly in the skies of ukraine that a been donated to ukraine by all european countries. so the notion of should we really deliver tanks or planes or long-range fires is behind us. now the issue is how do we create -- and the dilemmas can be through offensive abilities provided to the ukrainians that make the work of the russian armed forces much more difficult. from that perspective i would caution against toomey restrictions on the use of russian territory -- logistics is on the russian territory and, therefore, -- ukraine to win with

camille immediately tried to calm camille down, in this chaos, talking to her, encouraging her, at thee, don’t worry, knock, you won’t scream, you won’t lose your voice, you’ll inhale, knock on these pipes, she knocked as hard as she could, i told her three blows, wait, break, one more, right, and i told her, don’t shout, just talk, a whole group was already looking for camilla rescuers, at some point the phone in camille’s hands died, the last thing he managed to say was, we are looking for you, the walls of the crocus, between which camille was stuck, his words, his support, it was incredibly important when they took me to the ambulance, a rescuer runs up to me and says: camilla, it’s you, you’re camilla. i say: yes, i, you are the one girl, you were sitting in a hole, i said, yes, oh, we were looking for you. kamil after that continued to help as a rescuer, like many other people, real heroes, like ilya krasnikov, a former military man, that evening, also an ordinary visitor, during the terrorist attack, rushed to help the victims, it was kamel who got into the lens of his camera, s

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for example camille do you think that the national front national rally has been surging in part as aespo the position on ukraine a aih the next year or two more question of the concretetr for ukraine and support for up homegrown defense in european states. thus far western european states haveostly focus on support for ukraine. a few states closer to the built up the defense at the poles. they built up the defense and provide support for ukraine but not every public sustain that would willing to tolerate the vet. and you may find that we start hi trade-off problem where continuing the war in ukraine may actually under what governments can spend on defense in general depending how politics here goes. that could be a problematic issue for them. >> tom you don't do a politics, but having en months on the 61 billion, are you in november we can get more large packages through congress?>> yeah. so obviously i can't comment on the politics piece of it or the election peace but it would sort of two points. one come out of experience which i think obviously was very painful in took. i think a

small pension. shortly after the baby was born, they lost almost all their belongings in a flood. camille, as desperation group, as did her wish to be baptized. her church has a strong social media presence typical of the pentecostal movement of age because they were always connected online. i was when i wake up, i checked the program to see what's new and if there are any assignments. so many things are also whatsapp groups like the baptism group or the group for young people. and if i don't make it to the church, i watch the service on line. also make it is a focus on camino regularly visits. her daughter's father in prison. he's serving a 10 year sentence for alleged involvement in a robbery. while in prison he became evangelical and was baptized and has been encouraging camila to follow his lead or something. and i also pray for him that he stays strong and continues to walk with god. because that's a supporting organism. now i'm more relaxed because i know that everything is god's plan above assume it will all be in the past. with this alteration with of the big day has arrived in se

camille: that is popular. david: that's right. as our friend, nate cohen, wrote a couple days ago, it basically qualifies her as a generic democrat. and the euphoria you're seeing among democrats is really relief. but among independent voters, there is also some relief that it's no -- we're no longer trapped in this geriatric showdown, right? there has been something to shake up this dynamic that we've been living with for the first half of the year. and so this honeymoon period where she has taken a narrow lead in our polling average and basically every polling average by about a point and we're still kind of drilling down on these swing states which we'll talk about, but i think it has a lot to do with the fact that the trump campaign and republicans have squandered the past few weeks' opportunity to define her and fill in the gaps for people who don't have that strong an impression either way of her. and that's because there's been a messaging dilemma on that side between those who want to characterize her as unserious and laug

. >> i was sorely not venture to predict the french ele question of support for ukraine is as camillesays is not necessarilyngelectrodynamics today. but a think we should probably take a step back whether the decision made over the last couple of years have helpedo story are today. i think the economic space is perhaps the most notable here. much of the economic doldrums anti-vax seeing in western europe, some of is pandemic, some of it is to do decoupling from russian oil and gas and some is totally unrelated to cope global factors. but the war in ukraine has played a role in worsening the economic situation in western europe. vulturesed that at home here as well we know that. departments that doesn't provide any answer going for because that cake is baked. those decisions and it's the question of support for ukraine is not perhaps a said he went in electins. can do. one fee, think this is something theow much european population are wil how much they're willing to spend on defense. over the next yea trade-offs between supportor building up homegrown defense in european states. thus

what started as questions about security failings after donald trump was shot at led to camille beingotal. well, that's staged — that was my first reaction. because the secret service, if they weren't involved in some sort of staged event, they wouldn't have let him pose for a picture and expose his body to the open air with an active shooter nearby. these conspiracy theories feed into the wider belief that anything and everything can be staged or rigged, including elections. election centres, like this one in nearbyjefferson county, are upping security ahead of the vote as their workers are subject to abuse and threats online. let's make sure that we're all voting in ways that align with our values. but what's not ok is when you're sending horrifying e—mails or when you're making threats on the internet or coming to an office. camille and wild mother say they wouldn't threaten anyone but social media's algorithms are drawing new people deeper into an online world detached from reality, where hate can feeljustified. marianna spring, bbc news, colorado. world leaders have started gathe

camille and wild mother say they wouldn't threaten anyone.e world detached from reality, where hate can feel justified. marianna spring, bbc news, colorado. finally — a previously unknown composition by wolfgang amadeus mozart has been performed in the german city of leipzig where it was discovered. the work which is 12 minutes long is thought to have been the work which is 12 minutes long is thought to have been composed in the 1760s when mozart was in his early teens. researchers discovered it during work on a library in the city. due to its resemblance to mozart s most famous piece "a little night music it was subtitled a very little night music. the unearthed manuscript, in brown ink on medium—white paper, is thought to be a copy and not penned by mozart himself. often considered classical music's greatest composer, mozart was a child prodigy and died aged just thirty—five. that's all for now — stay with bbc news. hello there. big thunderstorms are on the way for monday and that brings the threat of some significant flash flooding. the st

camille and wild mother say they wouldn't threaten anyone.ity, where hate can feeljustified. marianna spring, bbc news, colorado. hello there. big thunderstorms are on the way for monday and that brings the threat of some significant flash flooding. the storms that we had on sunday were heavy enough but didn't affect everyone. western scotland, the skies have been like this for days in the highlands. another still day, you'll be wondering what all the fuss is about, i'm sure. but further southwards, the radar picture showed some intense storms, particularly going through the south midlands. and in woburn in bedfordshire, we recorded over the space of two hours 59mm of rain. that's more than the average for the entirety of september. and over the 24 hour period, the same site had 102mm of rain, so nearly double the monthly average rainfall. and nearby in dunstable, well, there was some severe flooding with the high street underwater at one point. now looking at the picture at the moment, lots of showers across england and wales again with some

and camille grant is an expert in defense and security policy of the european council on foreign relations. and i asked him why european allies are hesitant to follow germany's example and do more to help you print i just failed to to reason. so that's it. some of them think you don't have the capacity because they the say to over at the brokers still fines and so therefore they are struggling. then there is a small group which is more reluctant on the assistance ukraine, and the email stating from the one that they want to deliver weapons to be hunger. so either the memorization is that we have more and more of a dean desktops, all producing for your brain. but it is that it's showing that the something that, yeah, mm hm. what would you say are the lessons your of has learned since the work broke out in ukraine? as easy, there's been a hard lesson for many europeans. first of all, it was a, the transformation of the relationship to russia and would sure collapse from a partnership relationship to something quite different uh, and the tier of approximately the size now seeking with most eu

wonderful to be here. camille. a wonderful to be here with you. last time we chatted, we talked about risks in a flyer. some people worried about a i taking over the world and destroying to mattie. what is this thing they recall ex, essential risk. where is this coming from? how do you feel about that? oh wow. well, accidental risk is, is a thrilling story at a little bit know an emotional level. it's very activating to think of, you know, do and conflict and the sort of in great power scenarios. and it's kind of catnip to a lot of powerful man. the idea that a, i this, you know, this scrape data, a big compute, you know, big models is going to somehow find the escape velocity to become sentients and super human. and we had better hold on because we either need to control that powerful, powerful, powerful ai or we're going to be superseded by it. there's no evidence that x a central risk is going to happen. i think there's a lot of questions around like why now did it catch on so powerfully. and i think a part of this was the answer that question

and then you have to have, you know, something that camille is very familiar with. you kind of the clean up crew, the content, moderators the people who deal with the fact that these systems often say, you know, the wrong thing. so there's a huge amount of labor that actually power is what we call intelligence in the systems. so we should be, we should be aware of that dynamic, know that i cannot replace workers, it's displacing work. and that it is a tool of, you know, employers, governments, you know, those in power are the ones with the resources to decide where to use. and it will very likely be used on us in ways that we need to push back against one more question. so i work and people on netflix at a big company. and this is something i struggle with on a daily basis. so if i get a i and just think more basic, i'll go ahead and make hiring for example. so in the process like this, when you already have something very human being, is going to be subject to tremendous biases. could something that can very well regulated technology or an algorithm actually help?

courageous whistleblowers and their own rights. working to make a i favor safer, more responsible. camille francois is a researcher, experienced incomes batting. this information and digital harms. today, she's helping the french president microns landmark initiative on a i and democracy marriages. whitaker blew the whistle inside the industry about a i largely unchecked harm and let the google walk out in 2019. nowadays, she's president of signal secure messaging. so how do we protect ourselves from mast this information and distinguish between what's real and st online, the embedding surveillance into our lives leading our noun, scofield. and how do we make the check the meredith, i'm so happy to be here with you tonight. so you're the president of signal. my favorite way to send messages. the stays in your, in a scholar in your own right. you co founded in a research organization called a i now which you continue to advise. and i actually have the great pleasure of sharing an office with you when we're both colleagues at google. yes. has 10 years ago. so 2 years ago. back then you were