in fact, nash had not even taken a basic bloodstain analysis class when he investigated lisa's death.rse the following year, but was still not an expert when he testified at trial. dwight sought out the best in the field. >> i found two of the world's most renowned blood spatter experts. >> reporter: he sent a crime scene photos to both of them. >> and they both independently came to the same conclusion. >> reporter: that dan nash was quite simply dead wrong. one of them wrote the blood stained evidence and presence of gunshot residue on the right-hand of lisa jennings are consistent with a self-inflicted gunshot wound. but as any lawyer will tell you, on doing a jury's guilty verdict is well nigh and possible. so, what now? >> coming up -- a life interrupted. >> he missed out on me turning 16, me getting married. i have a kid now, he missed that. >> reporter: wow. >> he missed out on a lot. >> we'll brad jennings miss even more? >> i don't promise anything to a client other than i will give you my best shot. >> when dateline continues. >> when dateline continues. vicks vapostick. and

it didn't look like suicide at all. >> he was struck by the fact that if lisa jennings had shot herselfere would be more blowback than one drop of blood. >> three months after that christmas eve, the investigator drove over to the farm and said he was looking at the case again. >> and one of the bathrobe that mr. jennings was wearing that night. >> the rope he had on when he said he found lisa debt and held her in his arms, why three months later what a bathrobe be of use at all? i'm sure it had been cleaned or something. >> apparently, it had not. mr. jennings spent little time going back into the bedroom where from his perspective his wife had taken her life. >> brad gave him the bathrobe and still had blood on it. they ran some tests and kept in touch with brad. >> he was questioned a couple of times. >> one month later, this was april, the sheriff came to call. at dale's gun and pawn. >> he said i'm here to seize the jennings gun. >> than a guy in a t-shirt and khakis walked in. >> he said he is a sergeant with the missouri highway patrol and said i'm here to investigate the murder

thought he was the father of her car. -- child. >> inmate 2012, did you know lisa techel? d before lisa married seth and ended weeks before the murder. >> at some point, did your relationship with lisa techel become sexual? >> yes, did. >> we are talking texting, are we? >> no, sir. >> we're talking sexual intercourse? >> correct. >> for lisa's father that she had a lover was a cruel blow. >> by lisa? my second thought is, i don't want to tell amy because i know she won't be happy. >> does the tincture memory at all? >> really what it did for me is i have so many questions i'll never get the chance to ask her. i love lisa. she was a human being and made mistakes. >> the graphic testimony about her affair and how police overlooked it fit perfectly with the defense's theme of a botched investigation on the rushed against seth. >> he should've been investigated. >> investigators never spoke to jason while they were building their case against seth. prosecutors contacted him days before the third trial started. >> may 2012 and sometime in june 2014, no one talked to you? >> no,

and hes like, lisas been shot. amy caldwell: i held her hand and i just said, "my lisa, my lisa." >>> i was like >>> i was like what's going on? newly married, pregnant, starting the career of her dreams. todd caldwell: she always put everybody before she put herself. dennis murphy: then, one morning, a single gunshot blast rocked the newlyweds home. seth techel (911 recording): shes been shot. dennis murphy: a young husband, out of his mind with grief. dennis murphy: it was a tragedy. but, for lisas dad, a sheriffs deputy, it was no mystery. he was sure he knew who the killer was. todd caldwell (recording): go get him. go get him. now. dennis murphy: a neighbor with a gun and a grudge. todd caldwell: i thought, they better get to him before i do. dennis murphy: but some said this couple was having trouble. that seth had a secret. dennis murphy: did he tell you "she sent me some topless pictures?" colton millard: yes. dennis murphy: others said the real murderer was someone else, right under cops noses. jake feuerh

he was lisa's husband but the rest of the family did not get. it he had been an awkward fit.t help but notice how tough he was on lisa's son dylan, bossing him around like a raw recruits and meeting out harsh punishments for the slightest miss step. dilemma called what he was ordered to do, when the boy neglected to take out the morning mail. >> it was six in the morning, he actually said, take your clothes off, leave your underwear on, and you are going to walk out to the mailbox. i always wanted a better fatherly figure. >> reporter: when it came to his mom, he could put on the charm. >> oh for pietz sake. >> reporter: but to lisa's mother and sister, scott never measured up. >> i wanted her to be with someone that totally respected her. and, loved her with all their heart and, i did not see that with scott. >> reporter: it was not a big dark family secret that lisa and scott had been crashing into the rocks for a while. he was having an affair, and lisa found out, they talked divorce. when lisa visited her sister at her home in virginia, about a month before she died, with

and he said, i'm here to investigate the murder of lisa jennings. talking about, murder? it was in the paper, you know. it was ruled a suicide. and he said, no, he killed her. keith morrison: but that wasn't all. --questions and he goes, what did jennings say to you about his wife having an affair? i said, he never said a word to me about his wife having an affair. why? was she? and he said, yes, and we can prove it. i said, well, that explains a lot. he said, you mean why he killed her? and i said, no. i said, why she did this. i said, maybe everything caught up with her, you know? keith morrison: meaning, thought dale, something about the affair pushed her over the edge. then dale offered the sergeant a little family history. dale potter: i said, you do know, don't you, that her dad killed himself? and he goes, you're full of crap. he said, her dad's alive, and he lives at windyville. i said, no, you're full of crap. her step-dad lives at windyville. her real dad killed himself out in kansas years ago. keith morrison: another family suicide? an af

lisa and kevin's first date. >> we got along right way. >> i mean, he fit right in. seriously. i can totally see why she was drawn to him. i mean, you really can. >> kevin was just as drawn to lisa according to kevin's sister chris ann sutton. >> i remember kevin telling me he met somebody and her name's lisa. i think i really like her. >> both kevin and lisa had been married >>before and both had children. lisa had megan. kevin had cody. >> kevin was always good with children. >> linda cover is a family friend who's known kevin all his life. >> good father. >> good father. >> dedicated father. >> absolutely, absolutely. >> kevin was a jack of many trades. a truck driver, a school bus driver, an emergency medical technician. lisa dedicated her life to social work, helping and caring for sexually abused kids. kayleen was one of lisa's coworkers >> she just wanted to help people. we work in a sex abuse unit, and that's a very difficult subject that a lot of people can't deal with, but she prided herself on helping these families and being able to help, you know, make a difference.

lisa: he remains disappointed but is trying to move past it, even as he still doesn't love the candidatessh kamala harris had gone through the process. i wish there was someone other than trump. but this is where we are at, and it is up to me as a voter to continue to look deeper. lisa: one more decider in a swing state, georgia voter lauren in june. >> frustrated. lisa: she felt neither trump nor biden listens to voters. and now with harris as a candidate? >> i feel differently. i feel more positive. i feel like maybe she's more in touch than he is. of course she is younger and she's female. lisa: she works for the social security administration and finds joy in travel. while she had been more anti-trump before, she now sees reasons to like harris. >> something feels different. i don't know what that is. but yeah, i'm a little more hopeful. lisa: something feels different. for voters, for the deciders especially, the race is not over. it's restarting. for the "pbs news hour," i'm lisa desjardins. ♪ geoff: the man accused as the mastermind behind the september 11 terrorist attacks, and tw

lisa abramowicz, and annmarie hordern. jonathan: this is torture for equity market bears. every single our bob michele of jp morgan, i feel great. he was bearish a year ago. this is a big change. lisa: now the bearishness is not being bullish enough. we see upgrade after upgrade on wall street as everyone reassesses what the pivot from the fed means. jonathan: oppenheimer raising the s&p 500 year end target to 5500. i think that might be john stall office. you talk to him about upgrading the target and here we are. lisa: he said i'm going to revise things. there's not much upside from here to get there. as we heard, it did not take long before we could get to 5400 by the end of this week. jonathan: they get lined coming from boeing. let's get going up on the screen. boeings dave calhoun announces his intent to step down as the ceo. the stocks is higher in the premarket 2.5%. the boeing ceo announcing his attention to step down as ceo. lisa: everyone is wondering what took so long. everyone was wondering why he was still there. the idea this is a cultural problem that is not yet seen bottom and a question of who comes in and what is

keith morrison: when he met lisa, he was acting but also waiting tables. lisa: he twinkled. he was just charming. i was thrilled that he asked me for my number. keith morrison: they married, had three sons together. and with a growing family to support, gavin gave up acting and took a job on the business side at 20th century fox. eventually, as a film distribution executive. fox is a wonderful company to work for. and he loved it, it was film. keith morrison: first place lisa called when gavin failed to pick up their son. was he at work that day? they told me, he just hadn't shown up to work. gavin in 18 years, had never ever not shown up to work. keith morrison: so then lisa, very worried now, went to the lost hills sheriff's station to report gavin missing. and waited and waited. days later, gavin's family went on nbc4 in los angeles to plead for help. and i'm not gonna stop until i find him so please help me find him. if you guys just want to each pick one of these streets. now, i'm in panic mode. we've got to do something. what did that feel like, being in that spot? oh,

lisa: he's going to go late so he could watch the game and put on his jersey. wrong? jonathan: 12 months ago talked about how we needed to get to the g7. lisa: it's going to be important. jonathan: lisa could break down the sophisticated nature of this potential that could happen with the russian assets. lisa: i will do a detailed analysis. jonathan: i will let you know later why lisa must go and i will supervise. lisa: people should write in if they think we should go. jonathan: see if management comes along for the ride, i doubt it. apple edits developer conference, the stock is positive one third of 1%, just around the corner. ♪ want to save on some of the biggest names in streaming on the network made for streaming? x marks the spot. now you can add the new xfinity streamsaver™ that includes netflix, peacock, and apple tv+. that's xfinity streamsaver™ for just $15 a month. all your favorites. all in one place. only from xfinity. for more watching and less spending... x marks the spot. do it all on the network made for streaming, and bring on the good stuff.

it is whether he should be running for president. lisa: virginia is an incredibly important state. iking distance for donald trump. there's a concern for every senator and i don't believe he is up for reelection but nonetheless you have virginia an important state. a lot of democrats are concerned what this could mean not only at the top of the ticket with the presidential race but the down ballot affect as well. will: america's crime crisis pushed out of the other celebrity from california to tennessee. a current camera announced he's leaving california. it is too much under the guidance of gavin newsom. here's kirk cameron. >> i'm from california and our state desperately needs god's hand of mercy to be upon it. we just moved to the state of tennessee so we are tennesseans now. joey: you some buddy moving from california to tennessee, you think economy, money, the price of things is probably why and that's not what he says. he's a devout christian, he talks about that, that's a huge part of his life if not the definitive part of his life but what he's saying is i don't want to rai

did he say why now, why lisa? the notes didn't say why he had chosen lisa as a victim. f his fantasies that he had clearly struggled with. your jaw must have dropped. to say the least. i was at home, and i received a phone call on my cell phone. what are you thinking? i gasped first. i took a big, deep breath, and my mind began racing. andrea canning (voiceover): then he received the letters on his cell phone. i got very emotional, very excited, and very hopeful that this was the moment that was going to take this case in a different direction. dozens of investigators had worked thousands of hours and sleepless nights on this case. and after 25 years, we finally knew who did it, and we just had to go out and get him. andrea canning (voiceover): it was a race against time because in his confession letter, schara also wrote that he knew detectives were closing in on him. "the state police were at the house with some important papers for me. that will be a warrant to take dna, and that will send me away for life. today, it will all end. i'll either take my own life, or face

he is determined we do not hold people accountable. >> lisa: joe biden's whole approach is things mightut the other guy is worse. a lot of americans are asking, well, is he? you mishandled classified documents. how is donald trump the threat to democracy, when you look at president has ultimate authority, a vice president sure doesn't. this negates that level of attack and adds fuel to donald trump saying this is a witch hunt. >> harris: get back to what rebecca was talking about with afghanistan. you saw polling tank and he's never come back. we don't know if there are things in documents he had in his garage parked next to the corvette about afghanistan that had anything to do with tainting his decision-making on that withdrawal from afghanistan. he was not listening to reports. >> patrick: democrat or republican, should believe in rule of law and play out with independent neutral person. i look at both sides and rebecca mentioned both sides have not done the right thing. president biden and vice president pence were clear in opening up everything. i'm talking about pence and biden, u

, how he offended all these, and about lisa, he posted two videos about her, orite names, a foundling and a bastard, lord, that’s what he calls my girl. years, yes, after that she, when it dawned on her, she had a nervous breakdown, she had an emergency hospitalization, god, in a psychiatric children's clinic, our correspondent visited you in st. petersburg, you showed on the spot in which siege conditions, you live, what we want to see is the door, mid-august has traveled, of course, a lot has already happened, that is, it completely broken, it has flown off its hinges with... here it is torn off, well, i don’t know what it’s called, that is, it constantly breaks out, i don’t go outside without a spirit bottle, because it’s dangerous, but i’m scared, i’m really afraid for my life, there’s a hammer lying here at the entrance, of course i bought it with the purpose that i needed to nail these things here, now it’s lying here just in case, in my eyes it’s just, well, this is a complete man, igor, he’s like this really, well, a maniac, a sadistic maniac, he strang

why wasn't he watching the game? lisasted to say, the fed, take them at their word. annmarie: because they don't have caitlin clark. jonathan: i love that. up next, rethinking the fed's 2% target. >> inflation will be sticky. inflation will be absolutely sticky. we will get stuck around 2.5% to 3%. i don't think that warrants over the long term the fed rethinking its target. jonathan: that is up next. this is bloomberg. ♪ do you want to close out? should i? normally i'd hold. but... taking the gains is smart here, right? feel more confident with stock ratings from j.p. morgan analysts in the chase app. when you've got a decision to make... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management. every second counts. 120 seconds to add the finishing touches. 900 seconds to arrange the displays. if you're short on time for marketing constant contact's powerful tools can help. you can automate email and sms messages so customers get the right message at the right time. save time marketing with constant contact. because all it takes is 3

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lisa: he washed the republican convention thinking perhaps trump would be a unifier. inutes, he heard a candidate he could support, but then the speech and zack's thoughts changed again. >> it became a stump speech. a lengthy stump speech at that. that last me -- that lost me, to be honest. i was hoping for a call to unity and it did not happen the way i expected it to. that initial move closer kind of got washed with those things later. lisa: now he's looking at harris, considering her seriously, and saying her vp decision could make the difference. zack's experience with pennsylvania governor josh shapiro has been good. >> if josh shapiro gets selected as vp, i would go in trump to lean harris. lisa: another unsure republican. >> if it was tomorrow, i would have a lot of prayer. lisa: steve beck runs his own travel agency in alabama. in june -- >> on one him i'm discouraged, but on the other hand we have a process that has been around a while. lisa: he remains disappointed, but he's trying to move past it, even as he still doesn't love the candidates or how they got

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lisa described what happened next. he _ alongside me. lisa described what happened next. ibed what happened next. he leaned over i alongside me. lisa described what. happened next. he leaned over and he leaned over, holding the steering wheels one hand here and was waving it out of the passenger side window. and he was driving alongside me all the time, waving this thing, telling me to pull over. he was really angry because i felt really stressed. i immediately thought of wayne cousins and david carrick. when she didn't stop, the male driver eventually slowed down and pulled off the motorway. lisa noted his registration. when she reported him to the police, lisa was told that the man was an officer with the northamptonshire force. northamptonshire established that he wasn't one of their officers, but he had had a civilian role with them. and then when i find out he wasn't a police officer, i actually felt even more frightened and scared. so, because now it was an alleged crime of impersonating a police officer, northamptonshire passed it to the leicestershire force. this i

court in the movie inside moves and then as a bartender in cop. >> congrats, al. >> when he met lisa, he was acting and waiting tables. >> he was charming. mr. that he asked me for my number. >> they married, had three sons together and with a growing family to support, gavin gave up acting and took a job on the business side of 20th century fox and eventually as a film submission executive. >> box is a wonderful company to work for and he loved it. >> the first place lisa called when gavin failed to pick up her son. was he at work that day? >> they told me that he had just not showing up to work. gavin in 18 years has never, ever not shown up to work. >> lisa very worried now, went to the sheriff station to report gavin missing and waited and waited. days later, gavin's family went on nbc 4 in los angeles to plead for help. >> i'm not going to stop until i find him, so please let me find him. >> now i'm in panic mode. we have to do something. >> what did not feel like we being in that spot? >> it was surreal. >> the smith family put together a $20,000 reward leading to gavin's whereabou

lisa: he faces a voting gender gap.en support the former president by 16 points but women back his opponent by 14 points. the hunt for votes meant reaching across the aisle. vp. harris: no matter your party , no matter who you voted for last time, there is a place for you in this campaign. lisa: in pennsylvania, a nearly must win for her, harris appeared with nearly 100 republicans who disavowed donald trump. her message was for conservatives and others unhappy with the former president. vp. harris: the coalition we have built has room for everyone who is ready to turn the page on the chaos and instability of donald trump. lisa: with it came broader symbolism. the event was near the site where george washington famously crossed the delaware river during the revolutionary war. the president who urged voters to choose country over politics. vp. harris: to compose the constitution of the united states, that work was not easy. the founders often disagreed, often quite passionately. in the end, the constitution of the united

lisa: he has. he also well-framed the game theory going on in markets right now.t, which is why i'm curious about jay powell later today, when he comes up at 2:00 p.m. jonathan: tk may or may not show up. i think he is around. lisa: is this the game theory? jonathan: is tom going to show for the program? i need to email him the time. coming up, bankim chadha, ira jersey. so much more to come. attentive economic data this morning, and it starts next hour. ♪ ♪ ♪♪ sandals jamaica sale is now on! with rates from $199 per person per night. visit sandals.com or call 1-800-sandals ♪ visit sandals.com ♪ ♪ >> the fed is going to deliver a very hawkish message. >> how patient will they be to get down to the policy objectives? >> it would rather hang out at these levels for longer. >> it is entirely possible that the fed chair could lead us to a path where there is a little bit or tightening of financial conditions. >> we need to hear what he has to say, how he characterizes the environment before the market can resume another push higher. >> this is announcer: --"bloomberg

that's where our country's going. >> what do you think he's doing there? lisannifer says this kind of speech is what separates trump. it is not political razzle dazzle but dangerous, hyperbolic fearmongering. jennifer: he is trying to make it seem as though everhing is at stake. most people are not excited about his campaign, or biden's. and so both candidates are trying to generate a lot of interest. one way you do that is through using intense and extreme language to make it seem as though everything is at stake. lisa: and wisconsin yesterday, he added religion injecting the , idea that while joe biden is a regular churchgoer, he, donald trump, is the christian candidate this election. mr. trump: november 5 is going to be called something else. you know what it's going to be called? christian visibility day, when christians turn out in numbers. lisa: trump's speeches were a showcase of why he succeeds and fails. they contain a weave of lies and truths around one constant center. jennifer: all presidents run as heroes. it's not uncommon. joe biden is running a

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he said it was necessary, secretary kerry. lisaked him if this was a policy success or a failure and he said it was a policy necessity because of you get higher oil prices you get riots and social disruption. how do you dovetail a message of sustainability over the long-term with the reality in the short term which is people are moving a lot less quickly than what people expected? jonathan: brent crude just south of $80. a little bit of a lift on the s&p 500. drifting high on equity futures. down about three, to 4.09%. lisa: we've seen a pretty big selloff in bonds and what i find fascinating is we have reached all-time highs in nvidia that has driven the rest of the index while bonds have sold off. this is a huge question. can this continue given that people are optimistic? jonathan: coming up, that two week winning streak, taking stocks back to all-time highs. goldman, morgan stanley, microsoft and apple still to come. lisa: those to me are going to be the real determinants of whether we. see this rally continue. the ai hike, can

lisa: he also has gone into pretty much everything considering he bought twitter and is in space explorationgy. annmarie: and going to palm beach and exerting himself in the immigration debate. he puts himself there, which is why journalists almost have to ask. jon: he's free to say whatever he wants. this just interesting that journalists go after everything he says about everything. why is it relevant what he thinks about who should be running the world disney company now? annmarie: because it cells and people click on it. that's part of it. he has deep pockets but that's what it comes down to. jon: tensions between the u.s. and israel rising after president biden says the country has not done enough to protect civilians following the death of aid workers. the prime minister called the strike unintentional but biden saying it shouldn't happen. joining us now is a u.s. marine corps veteran and former white house fellow. a conversation we had yesterday i would like to build on with you this morning. do we overestimate the influence america has on israel? >> i think in some ways we do and in

lisa: he doesn't like the boos. y and the crowd, with the kids in the crowd, i did notice that. but were they doing him? that is a very separate debate. up next on the program, looking for 11 straight days of gains. this is the 11th. up by about half of one person in the free market. from new york, this is bloomberg. this is our future, ma. godaddy airo. creates a logo, we even social posts... in minutes! -how? -a.i. (impressed) ay i like it! who wants to come see the future?! get your business online in minutes with godaddy airo should i? normally i'd hold. but... taking the gains is smart here, right? feel more confident with stock ratings from j.p. morgan analysts in the chase app. when you've got a decision to make... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management. (♪♪) (♪♪) sandals rhythm and blues caribbean sale is now on. visit sandals.com or call 1-800-sandals. jonathan: equities on the s&p 500 firm or by a quarter of 1%. this case of morning calls. first up, raising its price target to 600, from 530. the analys

finally he gets to control some of the levers. lisa: there's a quote that scott bessent said in june, "we are going to have some kind of grand global economic reordering. i would like to be part of it. i've studied this." the hedge fund manager now rising to become treasury secretary. jonathan: equity futures rising as well. coming up we will catch up with citi as donald trump pigs scott bessent at treasury. we begin with stocks looking for a sixth straight day of gains as markets welcome trump's decision to nominate bessent for treasury secretary. lucy writes, "our expectation is the current consensus for 2025 is aggressive and this is before tariff concerns can be modeled, so we expect the postelection rally needs to pause and pullback." lucy, welcome to the program. let's located 2025. are you making any assumptions when it comes to taxes and tariffs? clubs ready to be with you. as we look at a 2025, you have shifted from election uncertainty to policy uncertainty. as you say four pillars of policy. you have the progrowth, cyclical

lisa: he won the pandemic. jonathan: he won the bubble era. he wants to buy back again. lisa: at a discount. be a rock star. he exudes that feeling. jonathan: walking around in no shoes and socks, floppy hair. lisa: you understand. jonathan: up next, a trial date set for donald trump. pres. trump: i don't know how you can have a trial like this in the middle of a presidential election. this is election interference. jonathan: that conversation is next. ♪ [alarm beeping] amelia, turn off alarm. amelia, weather. 70 degrees and sunny today. amelia, unlock the door. i'm afraid i can't do that, jen. why not? did you forget something? my protein shake. the future isn't scary, not investing in it is. you're so dramatic amelia. bye jen. 100 innovative companies, one etf. before investing, carefully read and consider fund investment objectives, risks, charges expenses and more in prospectus at invesco.com. jonathan: a small bounds on the s&p 500. -- a small balance on the s&p 500. trial date set donald trump. pres. trump: we have a man who just rolled would like the trial to start

lisa: he didn't even try to explain it. he came out and someone asked if he could explain it he said no, i can't, seems like it's overstated. he used those specific words at a time when he talked about how there was something off about the household survey and what you get more broadly. that said, he didn't call it wrong or try to cast conspiracy theories like the rest of us will. he just called it noisy and we have to take it as it is, moving forward. nonetheless, this is a fed that people think is potentially on the table even if july is out of the picture. jonathan: fight had sent to you that the median would be the cut, people would call it super hawkish. we all had one question going in. was there data going with those forecasts and if they did, was their opportunity to update the forecast? he said there was opportunity to update but that some didn't take the opportunity to revise them. does that mean that the outlook hasn't changed even with the print at 8:30 or does that mean that the forecast is dated? which is it? l

every movement he makes is going to be under a microscope. lisahad five days. you have to wonder how much time he would have to give another candidate to really develop their nomination to really gain enough steam. i wonder how much time there is and what kind of action people could take if they find out that time is running out. annmarie: we are four months until the election. one really cares until after labor day. there has already been this invisible primary happening. all of these names, they don't have the same name id or recognition, names like kamala harris, gretchen whitmer, newsom . they have been there. the polls show there is this appetite from the electorate to want to be introduced to someone new. jonathan: we talked about it briefly, the risk associated with the record now, the career risk of not saying anything. what do you think is the greatest risk? i think the vice president is between a rock and a hard place. if the vice president said something similar, if kamala harris came out and said things, everybody would say it was out

he was hoping to win his fifth major and that is your brief. jonathan: one just had a baby and the other just got a divorce. plenty of drama. lisais is where jonathan ferro talks to the viewer because he knows he can't talk to lisa or myself. jonathan: mr. sandler is making a sequel. happy gilmore, very cool. >> we've had three low prince you would not want to over interpret any of this. they will need more information because the market will be waiting for the next data point. jonathan: that is the same day as the fed's decision. equity future positive by 0.5%. life in new york, this is bloomberg. 1 ♪ equity futures positive by 0.1% bond yields are going nowhere. walmart is up by five percent the next one is jobless claims 45 minutes away. a rare upside surprise last week. jumping from data point to data point. >> the next move the fed will make us a cut not a hike we have had three low prince followed by a .3 you would not want to over interpret any of this they need more information, the market is waiting for the next data point. jonathan: bond yields following pricing into because this year. michael collins writing this powe

lisa: he has clearly got a different audience, so what is the message and why now? der a lot of political criticism. he is saying he is not political, but he is trying to speak to the people. annmarie: i think he is looking for cover, because you know he will cut, and he will get dragged in to this political mess. so he's looking for cover for many -- maybe numbers of the republican party tend not to get political. jonathan: what about the democrats? it was the democrats who sent him letters, never mind former president donald trump. let's talk about people in power, in congress, who have been setting him letters right before a big decision, the first decision of 2024? annmarie: again, it goes to why he is trying to speak to the people. i am curious if they are going to ask him, if "60 minutes" is going to ask him. do you open those letters? how do you feel when you read them? jonathan: in the shredder, hopefully. lisa: it is interesting to get that pushback. jonathan: priya misra, jpmorgan asset management. looking forward to chairman powell, "60 minutes," to talk a

lisa: he was proud of it. jon: three blocks long. ny adults are doing it for themselves versus their kids? if you get a vacation where you don't have to cater to anyone. jon: tom has gone on a cruise. that is where he is. time of his life. absolutely loving it. lisa: does he like the waterslide? jon: i'm not sure he went on the waterslide. there are some things no one needs to see. stephanie, thank you. stephanie roth of wolf research. an update on stories elsewhere. here's your brief. >> the bank of england keeping rates unchanged but two members have dropped support for future hikes. they joined the majority to keep rates at 16 year highs. after the decision, governor bailey cautioned the bank was still not at a point to cut rates. recent data has pointed to easing inflation and weakness in the labor market. the economy faced a technical recession and the second half of last year. the biden administration is announcing another wave of student debt relief. about $6 billion in debt will be counseled across 78,000 americans in public s