amb whitman: you focused on investing in innovation, young people and women. did you take that approach and what did you learn that was technically interesting? >> thank you, madam ambassador,ed a present it is good to be with you on the stage. i strongly believe that we are at a moment where we should revisit and upgrade and update the narrative of the relationship between the united states and the continent of africa. when you think about the continent, the median age is 19 years old, 19. it is predicted that by 2050 one in four people occupying space on mother earth will be on the continent of africa. so, when i think of it just from that perspective, many could rightly argue that the future is on the continent of africa. [applause] vp harris: yes. i also think -- i will speak very candidly here -- that we have to revisit and revise the narrative around the relationship in a way that appreciates that ours, the role of the united states, should not be one of been -- been never lance but of partnership. so it is not is not about aid b investment and understan

and he whitman is really interesting. he and whitman is really interesting. he wrote one column in which he really recognized the challenge and he really backed it up in a lot of ways. and then all of his other columns on william friedman, he didn't do that at all. he reversed himself. whitman is a little painful because he heard it and then he didn't. and why did he hear in one moment and then slipped into not hearing it in another moment? i couldn't say. you didn't ask about james this bottle answer him. he common on case because he was furious at william henry seward. james mccune smith very clearly recognized the racism in william henry stewart defense of freeman and he was absolutely furious at him for that. >> part of the excellence of this book, i'll say again, is a way in which you navigate the complicated entanglements of what it is to think about race and racial legacy and american culture. i said this to you, if one is building a classic trying to study that complexity, and if morrison's beloved is in there, baldwins fire, next time, all these book

bossor to kenya, mega -- meg whitman. meg whitman is a godsend and she is done sometimes single handedly with her team in nairobi what orders narrowly would be in the realm of miracles. her leadership in establishing

ambassador whitman: i know how hard you have worked ondigital .e progress you made building on t you made to africa. can you bring us up to speed on what you have accomplished and how you are feeling about the program? vice pres. harris: i will. first i must thank you meg whitman for taking up to the position of being ambassador. i have known the ambassador for a long time, i say with a bit of bravado as a proud californian, and your work and your groundbreaking■o in technology is extraordinary. this is just the perfect moment that you would step upr that. thank you. thank you. digital inclusion was at the heart of the idea for this initiative that is focused on the continent and i want to thank a few people that i know are here. brad smith is here. michael knew back is here. it was companies like microsoft, mastercard, foundations, melinda french gates was one of the earliest to contribute as much as $10 million for the women, the digital inclusion focused on women, the ford foundation. essentially, this is how it all happened. the simplified ver

ambassador to kenya meg whitman.invite you to take your seats and enjoy this video while they prepare to come back on stage. >> please welcome back suzanne p. clark president and c.e.o. of the u.s. chamber of commerce. >> i'm trying to decide if i should say good morning or good afternoon. i have lost track of time but thank you so much for everyone for being here today. it is an historic day for the united states and for the u.s. chamber of commerce. we are celebrating the 60th anniversary of u.s.-kenya diplomatic relations and marking the first state visit by an african president since 2008. i think we can all agree that 16 years is far too long but we are hopeful that president ruto's time in washington will usher in a new era of regular state visits by african leaders. we have brought together senior government officials, business partners as we observe world trade month and on the eve of africa day. what better time could there be to illustrate the importance of person between the united states and kenya. what b

back with us, max rose, maya wiley, and christine todd whitman.me at the table. talk to me about why you think this settlement with abc is so troubling. that's so, first of all, there is no comparison between the fox news defamation case and abc news defamation case. one quick point of fact, when e jean carroll herself after the jury verdict went and set on television twice that donald trump committed rape against her, remember, yet a counterclaim that said she was now liable for defamation against him, and the judge said no, she is not, because a common understanding of what he was found civilly liable for what is the equivalent of rape, it just doesn't meet the narrow legal definition, and when you have a public figure, you have an even higher burden when it is a journalistic issue about whether or not -- in other words, there is a stronger defense for journalists when they are using common parlance about whether or not they have engaged in defamation. so, when you have a judge who has said in two separate cases, saying it is rape is not a probl

governor whitman, i'm starting with you because i understand you have worked with in some manner rfke be health secretary? is he qualified for that position? >> well, i don't think so. i didn't actually work with him. i just spent some time with him at behest of the magazine and he would say things on a joint interview. we were on a river rafting trip and we'd go off every night with this magazine and talk about things and he would say things that were just flat out untrue. he'd tell me that i had done certain things and i said well, no, i didn't and i kind of knew what i had done, but anyone that relies on someone like seery who talks about stop be the polio vaccine is just totally -- you can't have that kind of person in office. i was listening the other day. apparently one of the questions that they asked of prospective people to serve, a yes or no question, i don't feel like having sex right now. what does that have to do with your ability to perform in a job in the administration, in health and human services? i mean i just don't think he's qualified in any way, shape, or form a

serving on this committee with representative whitman. >> congressman whitman, last word. >> i'm on the is self-sufficient in doing the things that need for to do. make sure we protect our nation from threats around the world but also at our border. those things are fundamental to who we are as a nation. they are the things the american people want us to be working together on. they want us to get things done. it's pretty simple and straightforward. >> bret: all right. well, we will continue to do these segments. we appreciate you both coming on. see all of the "common ground" segments on my podcast "common ground" find that and the all-star panel podcast bret baier podcasts. spotify or wherever you download podcasts. also see this discussion on the fox news youtube page. >> bret: up next, the panel on the presidential race and the latest fox news polls out tonight. and as we go to break. we remember willie mayes. baseball's oldest living hall of famer. he died tuesday afternoon. say hey kid is regarded as one of the greatest players in the history of the game e stroked almost 3300 hits

bossor to kenya, mega -- meg whitman.eg whitman is a godsend and she is done sometimes single handedly with her team in nairobi what orders narrowly would be in the realm of miracles. her leadership in establishing and sustaining conversations and dialogue and pursuing implementation through effective collaboration has been outstanding. it has been fascinating to observe her in action. she that is notably introduced a culture in my administration. we have addressed some of the issues i mentioned in my statement it conclusion. it feels at least -- it was at least nine. this year she brought another list of nine that i promise that our team willfully address to for the strengthen the business climate. here is an historic opportunities it unlock kenya's vast potential to increase opportunities for trade 20 deliver profit blgt to millions of kenyans for now and generations to come. kenya works and we mean business. >> when it comes to investments we are ready for you. together, let's bring your vision to reality and let us bu

so whitman is whitman is a little painful because he it and then he didn't. and why did he hear it in one moment and then slip into not it in another moment? i couldn't say. and i didn't ask about james mccune smith, but i'll answer for him to james mccune smith commented on the case because he was furie was at william at william henry seward. he james mccune smith very clearly recognized the racism in william henry seward's defense of freemen, and he was absolutely furious at him for that part of the excellence of this book, i'll say again, is the way in which you navigate the complicated entanglements of what it is to think about race and racial legacy in american culture. and i said this to you, if one is building a class of trying to study that complexity and if morrison's beloved is in there and baldwin's the fire, next time, all these books that that ask any reader to figure out how do you witness and participate and find your place in the story. i think we could say that your book would be there. so i just want to congratulate you and thank you. thank

it's kamala harris has done numbers have been going up and down well, governor whitman, i wonder you were governor of new jersey republican, who no longer supports donald trump, doesn't support donald trump. >> i do wonder though about those wavering centrist republican women and places like the suburbs of philadelphia and so on. let's show a poll from over the weekend. this is choice for president to abc news ipsos poll harris 19 points she is leading donald trump among women that is above where biden was against the president at that time in 2020 years thoughts, a governor whitman well, frankly, that comment of his, whether they like it or not, is just infuriating. >> and i think there are a lot of women who are still somewhat hesitant those women who are on the fence to whom that will be extremely offensive. and it will sway the votes and i don't know why we're still talking about the trash thing of the fact that joe biden mentioned that when donald trump has been denigrating people, men, women, minorities, they calling them trash, calling them vermin in a poisoning our blood we h

will 20 me now the former republican governor of new jersey, christine todd whitman, governor whitman, thank you so much for joining us today. you know, when you hear those comments and by the way it's not the first time that we've heard trump use violent rhetoric and his rallies are intimating as such. listen to this i am your >> retribution, i am your retribution. this is the final battle. >> they know it. i know. you know everybody knows that this is it. >> either they win or we win. >> i think they feel this is the way they're going to try and win. and that's not the way it goes out. it will be bedlam i'm in the country. it's a very bad thing. >> we will >> root out the communists, marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country i mean, retribution bedlam, vermin, there's a lot to unpack there. what do you think he's trying to do when he is saying these statements? >> hi, it's doing two things. he is putting his base on notice that he's going to want some serious action if he doesn't win the election and believe me, we saw on

you don't owe a thing to that political party. >> governor whitman, i wonder if you think that message resonates with the audience it is intended for? >> i do. i think it resonates very much here there are so many republicans who are disaffected. number one, i grew up in the republican party. i have been in the republican party all my life. now, i am a for it is, as you heard in the introduction, one of the cofounders of the four reduced party that we are third- party. people deserve choices so we don't get insight into the type of mess we have been into during this campaign. frankly in a much better spot than we were just a few weeks ago. still, if you think about what we have been going through the past six months, leading up to president biden stepping aside, we did not have to be here if the two parties had been more open, if they had been more welcoming to people, if they had not become so extreme. now, we have a chance to, at least in this election cycle, to ensure we save our democracy, which is what this is really about, and there are so many republicans that are fed up with th

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according to the walt whitman biographer, whitman heard emerson deliver an early version of the poet in the society library in manhattan during the first week of march. he says whitman was first introduced to the idea that the meaner the type by which a spiritual law is expressed, the more pungent it is, and the more lasting in the memories of men. theorizes that the first meeting between these two american titans may have taken place at this event in our building. we will never stop bragging about that, just to let you know. to tell us more about emerson tonight we're glad to have with us an editor, translator and critic who has written and lectured widely on emerson. his essays and criticism have appeared in leading publications, such as the new yorker, the times literary supplement, and harpers magazine. is the author of five years at the epicenter of the juggernaut. we have copies of the break of fear for sale at the corner bookstore right here in this room, and the author is happy to sign copies following the presentation. i'm now honored to hand the stage to james marcus. enjoy

. >> this is the former republican governor christie todd whitman breaks her silence about the man that she had publicly supported an introduced to the united states senate. does she now regret backing alito? and it's the hottest stock of a planet. >> a little known company forcing apple today to play catch up we have a special report. let's go out front and good evening i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, former president trump, just wrapping up an interview with a probation officer. this is a first, never an american history has a former president had to sit down with a probation officer because the former president has never been convicted of a crime. but here we are. >> this meeting was mandatory for trump as he is now a convicted in felon in the state of new york trump answering questions from his home and mar-a-lago. >> now, according to a source, the question answers lasted about half an hour and trump was asked, we understand some of the basic questions that other convicted felons must answer those questions for a regular felon would include questions about fam

.>> whitman started here in the 40s. he started the youth program. in the 40s, you could say he was here 40 some odd years, being a pedophile all those years.>> a 16-year-old set abuse happens to him.>> are you comfortable talking about your experiences?>> there was a property that he owned, and he allowed the church to use it. i was in school, but i was reading a book. he was doing some work, i was reading why the caged bird sings. i was reading it before he abused me.>> the dynamics of what was happening, someone in power, someone who was white.>> for me, it's real clear, here is a white guy coming into a chinese community. this was before civil rights, a white guy could walk into this place and sexually assault the boys, who's going to judge him?>> he died in 2007. whitman never publicly addressed the accusations, and charges were never filed, partly due to statute of limitations, and other priorities, like keeping the doors open at cameron house. there was no resolve to the physical and emotional trauma.>> i said this place feels like the bates m

congressman whitman, very interesting, scary findings as well.thank you. >> carley: have a great day. "fox & friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> brian: i just checked my watch. it's 6:00 a.m. on the east

africa frank. >> we heard from meg whitman right there.y does she think every company should invest in africa to some extent >> reporter: it is really a focus on the demographics. there are amazing stats. the average age on the continent is 19. when you look further ahead, 1 in 4 working age people will be living in africa within 20 years. she says any business that really wants to plan ahead and be part of that and wants to find customers should really be looking there. that is the pitch she is making when she talks to the old contacts she brought the kenyan president to silicon valley last year and said this is what you could get and kenya is the tech capital. she thinks this is the wave of the future and where they will build out especially on green energy because she thinks if you want to build an a.i. data center and make sure that you are doing it in a renewable way, kenya is the place to do it. >> fascinating 1 in 4 workers in the world will be in africa in 20 years wow. that's incredible. megan, great to see you. >>> coming up on "

president ruto, president biden, ambassador whitman -- doing an unbelievable job.body give the ambassador a hand. [applause] sec. raimondo: we were together in kenya month ago and i'm in all of your determination, commitment, expertise, it's making a huge difference. in any event, ruto, biden, the ambassador, we were together on wednesday with a group of kenyan and u.s. business leaders talking about what more we can do together. of course, last night we had a beautiful state dinner and you could feel it in the room, sense the excitement in the room about what we had done, the momentum that we have, and where we will go from here. the buzz this week at all of the meetings and at the dinner last night was -- how do we seize the momentum of this historic visit to do what is next? we cannot go home -- in my case across the street, in your case back to kenya -- wherever we go to, we can't just go home, feel excited for the weekend and move on. we can't do it. president ruto said that in the u.s. kenyan economic relationship, we have to go from ideas to action and oppor

[applause] i am thrilled to be here today with deb whitman who i have known for many years. was one of the first employees at the one at boston college. in some ways i own my job to deb indirectly. she has been an amazing person and friend for many years. i am excited to get to ask her a bunch of questions. we will have time for a few audience questions at the end. i want to cover three topics. i want to talk about the origin of the -- that bob has teed up for us. i want to talk about the new book that deb has coming out very shortly. i would also like to get into some of the issues that aarp has been working on and some of deb 's experiences in the policy world and her many years with aarp. let's get started. so great to be here with you. i would love to jump off with the roc and rdoc. this started in the mid 90's. there was a vision to build a consortium. can you tell us about the motivation, how it got off the ground and how you feel about where we are today. deb: thank you for the kind words. i am so excited to be here. the fact that 26 years and several gray hairs, this

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[crowd booing] you lost to governor christine todd whitman very narrowly--27,000 votes. -yes.-not that i remember, no. -27,000 votes. i-i-i actually remember where i was. tell us about that. i was walking along the fraser river, and, um, i thought to myself, "well, you know, what do i do?" and there was a moment like, i can break out of this, but i have been too deeply shaped by my own history to, at that point, change the narrative. so jim dug deeper into his lie. after his first marriage ended, rather than arouse suspicion as a bachelor, he pursued his family man image by marrying dina matos, an unsuspecting, picture-perfect political wife. before long, she was pregnant, and he was running for governor again. i declare my candidacy for governor of the great state of new jersey. jim was clearly the democratic front-runner, and front-runner gets you the county line. it gets you, uh, scares off your opponents. money. [laughs] front-runner gets money. enter real estate tycoon and democratic mega-donor charles kushner. bernstein: charlie kushner is the father of former white hous

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alan whitman lives just across the creek from friday night's fire.red this video of a cal fire helicopter making a water drop. whitman says he doesn't have any doubt these fires are the work of an arsonist. >> there's no question at all, because there have been four fires within ten days and all in the same area, all starting right around my house. pretty close. >> this has got to be a huge concern, very big concern. >> i mean, do you know how hard it is to get fire insurance these days? >> the most important thing that we can have everybody do right now is be prepared. >> a large group of residents turned out for a community meeting tuesday night, and while officials could not answer many specific questions, they did let the community know. investigating this series of fires is a high priority. >> it's very concerning. and again, it's based on where they are occurring. they're occurring in, you know, the lexington basin area, which we have significant fire history in that area. the lexington fire back in the 80s. fire officials say fortunately, no s

back with me as christine todd whitman and christina greer. look for in a running mate, does it matter what region of the country they are from or any of the demographics? governor, you go first. >> it does not matter as much is a lot of people think it does, most biased of the idea someone that has had executive experience, which i think would be good for her, then you come to the states that are the swing states, to the extent a candidate will make a difference if they're popular in their state, as many of these candidates are, actually, all of them are pretty popular in their states, they can help you bring the votes in. you're looking at those critical states. >> i will pull you down, governor, me a name, who do you think she should pick? >> i think josh shapiro is a good strong candidate, i think gretchen whitmer, i don't think the country is ready for two women yet, we should be, i don't think we are so i doubt she will be the candidate. >> professor, would you think? go ahead. >> i was going to say that i agree with the governor the ide

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his 1842 1842 tax was a bey the poet according to what whitman's biographer, he heard emerson to live an early version of the poet in society library in manhattan during the first week of march. here, loving says, here he whitman was first introduced to the transcendentalist idea that the meaner the type by which a expressed, thes more pungent it is in the more lasting and the memories of men. loving their rice is the first meeting between these two american types may have taken place at this event and rebuild it, so we're never going to stop bragging about that come just let you know. to tell usgh more about amherst and not where glad to have with this james marcus. mr. marcus is an editor, translator and critic who has written and lectured widely on emerson. his essays include -- the new yorker, the times later supplement and "harper's magazine." he is the author of amazonia, five years at the epicenter of the dot com juggernaut. we have copies of "glad to the brink of fear" for sale writer in thisd room and our author wl be happy to sign copies following the presentation. i am the

while whitman criticized the party as being replaced by the cult of donald trump.r rosco's path head of the national republican committee, gives him a special insight into the mindset of their party. the filing notes that the three governors have been members oeft republican party for decades. their objectives in filing this brief are not partisan but purely patriotic, motivated by their commitment to public service. the governors argue, should mr. trump be permitted to stand again for election to the presidency, despite his past actions? neither section 3 of the 14th amendment nor the oaths that undergird the bedrock premise that public officials serve to advance the welfare of the people and our common national project will ever be the same. they will have been rendered meaningless in their legal force and stripped of their moral authority and power. they will, in effect, have been written out of our constitution. and former governor mark roscoe joins me now on the phone. we had a little bit of camera trouble. thank you for joining us on the phone, governor. i wa

of walt whitman's epic song of myself. i sent tin some prints of the artwork been making on procreate and proposed an illustrated book of extinct species. during the phone meeting with tin house, i was told by the editors that the 50th anniversary, the endangered species act was coming up in late 2023, and so it was this immediately became the direction of the book, the final title, a wild promise was also decided during the same fateful meeting. so, yes, this. coming december 28th marks the 58th anniversary of the endangered species act. with one full illustrations, a wild promise not only commemorates landmark act, but celebrates many successes. those of you who have ever felt the thrill of seeing a bald eagle fly can thank the essay that. a promise not only features the endangered species act's most famous triumphs, like the bald eagle and the american alligator, both of which have been de-listed because of their remarkable recoveries. this book also features newly listed species most imt. it also lesser known species h

whether it's this book on endangered species or his beautiful homage to walt whitman, i think we're in the presence of a brilliant artist who cares and fights for what he loves. when i was first approached to write an essay for this, i didn't even have to think about saying yes or no, the minute i saw his images. he has taken a very powerful subject, a subject that can break our hearts and enliven our souls, endangered species and turned it into a celebratory moment what can be done. thank you for your presence. i'm just going to read from the essay for five minutes or maybe less. before i do, i want to mark this moment together. we know we're at war and we are all feeling it in its complexities and i think as animals, as a species, if we are without empathy, especially in in time, then we, too, are an endangered species. on this anniversary, i am thinking about extinction and what it means to vanish from existence. say their names, great passenger pigeon, great plains wolf, panamaion, and endangered species act is an act of questions that moves us toward answers. when endangered speci

. >> the race for governor between incumbent republican christine whitman and a little known democratic state senator, jim mcgreevey, because he was so little known and not independently wealthy, mcgreevey had to rely on his work ethic to get his name out. >> he didn't stop, called him the energizer bunny. he just kept going and going. >> the governor's race is tighter than ever, but work ethic could only take him so far. >> he lost his first race for governor by a narrow margin. >> i would like to congratulate our governor, christine todd whitman, for her reelection victory. >> you lost to governor christie todd whitman very narrowly, 27,000 votes. >> yes. not not that i remember. >> no, exactly 27,000 votes. >> i actually remember where i was, i was. tell us about that. i was walking along the fraser river and i thought to myself, well, you know, what do i do? and there was a moment like, i can break out of this, but i had been too deeply shaped by my own history to, at that point, change the narrative. >> so jim dug deeper into his life after his first marriage ended. rather than aro

christine todd whitman very narrowly. 27,000 votes? yes. not not that i remember, no. 27,000 votes. i actually remember where i was. i would tell us whether i was walking along the frasier river and i thought to myself, well what do i do and there was a moment like, i can break out of this, but i had been too deeply shaped by my own history to that point, change the narrative do jim dug deeper into his leinz after his first marriage ended rather than arouse suspicion as a bachelor, he pursued his family man image by marrying dina matos and unsuspecting picture perfect political life. >> before long she was pregnant and he was running for governor again i declare my candidate for governor, of the great state of your charges jim was clearly the democratic front water and front runner gets you the county line. it gets you scares off your opponents money front runner gets money enter real estate tycoon and democratic megadonor, charles kushner charlie kushner is the father of former white house advisor, jared kushner and a major. the jerse

website and look at trump's policies -- >> my pleasure to introduce our keynote speaker today, deb whitmanf aarp. she is joined by the moderator. deb is an economist and an expert on aging issues with experience ili