jefferson davisis knew that yett is amazing how many works of history related to the work simply ignoredin peter, yes that the lincoln who is not been to west point, who has not been previous work never been a combat hero of the united states pacer over this. briefly for a few weeks as a volunteer as he said, humorously, typically we spent more time cheating on speeches and indians and so, the other side of the coin is not lincoln is totally inexperienced and normally in terms of executive or authority you know he basically the current country lawyer. i didn't mean diminutive there he traveled all across illinois very good lawyer but is just lawyer news right law office a little law office perhaps maybe a big more met with a partner. denny was not wealth he was not used to holding community was used to giving orders any absolutely no idea i can see his military sorry, absolutely no idea, what davis was up to and wanting to seize fort sumter. >> and william stewart liggett singletary estate was being a little sneaky with city. >> yes enemy from some historians are different from you feel