if you become president what do you do next? >> after securing the border? >> first not just secure the border. people have to -- i do not believe having worked on this issue now for a long time including just personally coming from the background i come from that the american people are going to support anything on immigration until they believe firstly illegal immigration is truly under control. only after that is in place and that is work category we go to the american people and see what they are willing to support. i think they will be willing to support something very reasonable. i don't think the american people expect us to round up and deport 12 million people. if you are a criminal you won't be able to say no matter what. they should be deported now, criminals. and you know what? we've outlined an idea. maybe the american people will support it but the idea of allowing people who have been here a long time to background check. and paying taxes they get a work permit and that...

you and all of our rivals want to secure the border. what do you do next? >> not just secure the border. people have to have confidence that you have done it. i do not believe having worked on this issue now for a long time, including just permanently having come from the background that i come from, that the american people will support anything on immigration until first they believe that illegal immigration is truly under control. that means finishing the wall, fence, entry and exit system, verify. only after that's in place and working can we go to the american people and see what they are willing to support. i don't think the american people expect us to roundup and deport 12 million people. if you're a criminal, you won't believe able to stay no matter what. they shouldn't be able to stay right now. i don't know if the american people will support it. but the idea of allowing people who have been here a long time, pay a fine, start paying taxes, they get a work permit. that's...