here is part of that. >> a brutal attack on our police force is an attack on our country and an attack on our families. we must stand in solidarity with law enforcement, which we must remember is the force between civilization and total chaos. >> all right. joining us now with reaction, former 2016 gop presidential candidate dr. ben carson, and the senior pastor of the new spirit revival center and ceo of the national diversity coalition for donald trump, reverend darryl scott. dr. carson, you see what is going on. you hear the rhetoric. some people don't want to even give cops any presumption of innocence. now we have 12 cops shot, five killed last night. your reaction? >> well, clearly we're going to need some leadership in this issue. we need people who can help facilitate communication between the two sides. we need understanding of what the other side thinks. we'll never solve the problem without that. but as an example, you know, i'm a surgeon. and, you know, there are a few bad...