a right to be heard until their allegations are disproven and i think that in some of the most prominent cases not only were the accusations not disproven but confirmed and acknowledged by president clinton. i think. >> how's that. >> well, he had a relationship with jennifer flowers and paid paula jones off in a settlement and has acknowledged much of what monica says happened. those are three prominent examples. >> i'm not defending it but you were talking about, i think he was talking about, joe, mrs. clinton. >> joe. >> if you're a 50-year-old president of the united states and having an affair with a 22-year-old intern, is that defined. >> i'm not defending. i'm talking about sexual assault