hospitals, one in liverpool and the west midlands that have been mothballed since january and no work has happened. taxpayers money, government money has gone to build those hospitals and they are not treating any patients. so do you as a labour politician take some responsibility that this kind of business model? i wasn't an mp until 2010, but i do think that all governments need to look in the mirrorand governments need to look in the mirror and say, did this model work? certainly in this case it did not. carillion are not necessarily the only company having these problems. other outsourcing companies also face financial difficulties with rights issues and profits warnings, so rights issues and profits warnings, so there is something wrong with this model of public services and i would like to see some of the services that carillion ran to be brought back in—house and run by local authorities, the nhs and public services. john mcdonnell, the labour shadow chancellor said that that...