so it is right that he should apologise on irish soil, and right that he should meet victims on irish soil as pope. but do you think what he has said today is enough, is as much as could have been expected, or should he have been saying more, evenif should he have been saying more, even if not in great detail, about what further concrete actions the church might take? i did not expect to make an announcement which would be shattering at a time when he has come to deliver a message on family and church. i think he wanted the emphasis to be on the family, to be on the role of the family in the church, the importance of the family, the need to nurture family and the church, the many different broken forms. i grew up in a where i died when i grew igrew up i grew up in a family where my father died when i was 13. the church look after us. there are so much going on for families in the church today, that i think it is right the pope, if you like, that one of the first things he said,

of the battle? he is the supreme leader of the catholic church, but what is stopping him, who is stopping him, from further action?|i think stopping him, from further action?” think what you have is a church which is represented in 170 countries, each with aaron legal system. —— their own legal system. there are countries where child abuse and rape just are not investigated as crime or viewed as crime. i remembergoing investigated as crime or viewed as crime. i remember going to liberia when i was working for the irish government as a special envoy, and going to see the child abuse centre in the police station in monro via. they had a desk, a chair, and a computer, not even a camera to photograph injuries, and if there was no witness, there could be no prosecution. so you have all those problems across different countries, andi problems across different countries, and i think what we have to recognise is, this is not a simple matter of saying, do this and it will be done. the...