welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. may's european parliament elections could be a defining struggle for the continent's feature, a struggle between the forces of liberalism and populism, perhaps best personified by french president emmanuel macron up against hungary's viktor orban. my guest todayis hungary's viktor orban. my guest today is italy's former centre—left prime minister, paolo gentiloni. politically, he is with emmanuel macron that his country is led by populist sympathetic to viktor orban. so which message is resonating with your‘s voters? —— europe's. paolo gentiloni, welcome to