person we can identify? >> he was not trained as a spy. we have no idea where that assertion comes from. as edward done damage? he has done immense damage to the national security of the united states in ways that i wish i could describe in public, but i cannot. the revelations of snowden have given our enemies particularly terrorists, including al qaeda, insights into how we gain information and intelligence on them that have enabled them to change the way they operate and be much more difficult to track. that is one example. >> are we in negotiations to bring him back? further considerations that he

>> no. by the way, we have the best justice system in the world with all the protections for defendants that anyone, anywhere could hope for. he faces very serious charges. he should come back and face them in court. if his intentions are honorable, as he claims, which is hard to imagine given the damage he has done, then he ought to be brave enough to face the justice system that is the foundation of the country he loves. >> let me turn to a note. as a north carolinian who knew