1980 two, they formed see bj corporations, headquartered in delaware. it featured original works of art up to the present. there was a subsidiary for each project. right now, they're working on three of them, including the floating peers. david: he also buys back his artwork if he sees it is undervalued. ♪ david: these projects take years. it took 24 years for them to get permission to do the gates from the mayor, michael bloomberg. has it gotten easier as you have gotten better known to get past regulatory hurdles? >> no. i don't believe it is how difficult. i would love to have an easy way. david: he keeps busy.