>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: cybersecurity has become one of the greatest challenges facing this country. last february, president obama created a commission to address the growing threat. earlier this month the commission on enhancing national cybersecurity announced its findings in a comprehensive report, it called for urgent action to enhance american cybercapabilities. meanwhile last week, president obama ordered a full review of russia's election-related hacking. president-elect trump continues to dispute the kremlin's involvement. joining me now are the commissioner's chairs. former ibm ceo and a former national security advisor. i'm pleased to have both of them here. tell me exactly briefly, quickly, then we'll turn to our does other contemporary issues and come back to the report per se, how this came about. >> it came about, the president looked at what the challenges were and things that had been addressed in the first seven years of...