nick: before that, he was at an event where he raised a fist and said "heil trump." that was a real moment for him. he had spent a long time trying to construct what he thought was a socially acceptable version of this ideology. charlie: tell me about robert ray. elle: oh, robert ray. he writes for a neo-nazi website called "the daily stormer." it is extremely racist but it also uses teenagers' memes, jokes, bright colors, pictures. it tries to be hip and witty. the person who runs it is very good at writing a headline. they say they get about 100,000 readers a month. charlie: here it is, robert ray talking to elle. elle: tell me what you think. what do you do for "the daily stormer?" >> i'm a feature writer. i'm generally their man on the ground at events. elle: what do you hope to get out of today? what does it mean to you? >> for one thing, we are showing to this parasitic class of anti-white vermin this is our country. this country was built by our forefathers. it's sustained by...