relationships with them.
ibm, we are also partnering with
pivotal in that community.
we go through all of those
discussions, because it is
important to us.
think about these partnerships
like friendships.
you know, i may do some things
that you did not necessarily
want me to do, but let me
explain to you -- i don't want
to surprise you.
and maybe there are even
opportunities for us to work
--ether in different ways as
to this.
that is how we approach working
with our ecosystem partners.
we say it is all friends.
emily: are you concerned that
this partnership with amazon,
for example, could lead to them
stealing your business?
pat: absolutely not.
if you think about it,
several have asked that
question.
customers, if they wanted to
just move to the amazon service,
they would have.
it is not like the amazon
service appeared yesterday.
it is been around for a decade
plus now.
what customers have found is
that to re-platform my
application, it is hard and