essentially bundled into an advertising package for youtube. these are the types of questions that not just democrats are asking, but also republicans. quite frankly, big social media companies are at a turning point right now. they have spent decades trying to craft a perception of being transparent. now is the test. cory: finally, a final question, it's interesting that you got robert mueller in his probe looking at connections between the trump white house and russian groups, including paul manafort and rt -- michael flynn and rt, i should say. at the same time, you've got congress trying to understand the technology, what was happening in northern california with the fake ads and fake news and and so on. kevin: absolutely. aside from the social media angle and these big social media companies' angle, i can tell you the investigation is very much ongoing. the president's personal attorney will be testifying toward the end of october, october 25 or 26.