♪ ♪ emily: how big a role do you think facebook played in the election of donald trump? roger: well i think that without facebook it is inconceivable he would have been nominated. emily: he would not have been nominated? roger: no, i think the impact on the nomination was greater than the general election. the reason is because the russians had been doing this campaign of essentially trying to divide the american people, to polarize them, so they took these issues like guns, like immigration, rights of women, black lives matter, and they would try to divide the country by seeding both sides and causing arguments. trump showed up and adopted the same themes they had been doing, and i assumed it was just because that is the way he thought as opposed to it was coordinated. so he effectively got this free ride off of this 2-3 years of russian investment. the other republicans were all running standard republican campaigns. they were defenseless. it was effectively he had been campaigning...