buyers. you hear or america -- corporate america is prepared for a growing america and not stagnant. they are going to take advantage of the growth and the stimulus. jonathan: the difference this time around is the two americas leavening of. -- up. with when you have them leavening at the same time, it is difficult. bob: some of the angst coming out of the tweets are coming at a time when borrowing is going to go up. why would you want borrowing rate to go up? the other way to look at it is the opportunity is now very you are at relatively low levels of interest rates. there is plentiful liquidity. you have structural reform to