say i want to be the ceo of lockheed martin, or what did you say? [laughter] marillyn: no, i started looking for a job. i took a job as an economist here in washington with the bureau of labour statistics out of college. they were in the midst of redoing the producer price index. it was a good job for a grad student to come in. i actually started my career here. four years later, i interviewed at several companies, one of which was lockheed in marietta, georgia. i started there as a senior industrial engineer. david: so when you went to marietta, georgia, you worked your way up. you had 22 different leadership positions, so you must have been moving around a lot. marillyn: i was in marietta for about 13 years. 18 months in, i was promoted to supervisor in industrial engineering. about the two-year mark, i was put on a general management development program, great credit to a sponsor that, he put me forward for the program. so i spent two years rotating around the company. and at the...