in cleveland. mr. biden: we know he is a liar. pres. trump: you're the liar. you graduated lessen your class. >> mr. president, can you let him finish, sir? mr. biden: he doesn't know how to do that. you picked the wrong guy on the wrong night at the wrong time. jonathan: there seems to be the consensus waking up after this one. tom: there's no question. a lot of people said to me they weren't all that surprised by the energy that we saw, but it was just amazing to see someone as quality is chris wallace struggle without a new button, without the faders. there were moments when the vice president weighed in as well, but they got to fix that. i think all of america as a primal scream to get back to some form of debate decorum. we rely on lisa abramowicz as our debate expert here. jon: she moderates you and i